Wave 5 stat pics

[BoB]

So, I see you guys finally got some stats, and from Wal-Mart no less. Well, I took some pics today, some are a little hard to read cuz they were already in use. Here ya go:

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02936.JPG

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02937.JPG

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02938.JPG

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02939.JPG

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02940.JPG

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02941.JPG

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02942.JPG

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02943.JPG

http://www.terminalcore.com/heroScape/DSC02944.JPG

[Jandars_Hope]

Thank you soooooo much! There are now 2 gods among the scapers!

[Finrod]

Thanks, BoB!!!!

[K/H_Addict]

200 points? holy crappers!

i want the ninja and samurai and nakita agents!

[Jandars_Hope]

have u got pics for blastatrons and warriors of ashra? all i need is the point value of them

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

BoB is GoD! Thank you kind sir! Spartacs is 200 points! :shock:

[allskulls]

It seems that enhancements cost a lot...180 anyone?

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Rebellious - new personality type!

[yagyuninja]

200 points!!

[jdtenor]

thank you for the pics BoB

[MegadeV]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to raise an eyebrow to Spartacus' 200 point cost. 2 less Attack and 2 less Life than Jotun and a special that requires the use of all your order markers. That seems 20-30 points high to me. If the other gladiators were a squad, it might be reasonable.

[geddy lifeson]

Excellent...thx!!!!!!!!!!

[thehandofzarquon]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to raise an eyebrow to Spartacus' 200 point cost. 2 less Attack and 2 less Life than Jotun and a special that requires the use of all your order markers. That seems 20-30 points high to me. If the other gladiators were a squad, it might be reasonable.
Not to mention you even have to your bluff marker on the gladiators too. Looks like we got ourselves a more minor Taelord situation :P

[yagyuninja]

Well, I bet there are gladiator squads in the pipeline...then he will be ridiculous.

[thehandofzarquon]

Well, I bet there are gladiator squads in the pipeline...then he will be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, Gladiators don't seem like something there would be an awful lot of. At least compared to say... an entire Roman Legion... not to mention the image around them being tough and stuff (implying a hero in this game...)

Unique squads of two or three, I could see, but not common squads. But that's just me and I certainly won't be disappointed if there will be some :D

[yagyuninja]

I see your point. Well, we can hope! (sheesh, am I really already hoping for stuff in Wave 7? Hopeless. I'm hopeless!)

[Finrod]

Okay, so I now have good quality images of the cards for:

Sir Hawthorne
Deathreavers
Deathstalkers

Sort of okay images for:

Spartacus
Retiarius
Ninjas
Nakita Agents

Lousy image for:

Crixus

NO images for:

Warriors of Ashra
Blastatrons
Kozuke Samurai

Trying to work these up for tomorrow's games...

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Well, I bet there are gladiator squads in the pipeline.

I think you are correct sir!

[gibberish_47]

All I can say is... :drool:

[Augray]

Well, I bet there are gladiator squads in the pipeline...then he will be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, Gladiators don't seem like something there would be an awful lot of. At least compared to say... an entire Roman Legion... not to mention the image around them being tough and stuff (implying a hero in this game...)

Unique squads of two or three, I could see, but not common squads. But that's just me and I certainly won't be disappointed if there will be some :D

I'm wouldn't be surprised to see some common gladiator squads. Spartacus--gladiator rebellion.

[srmalloy]

Well, I bet there are gladiator squads in the pipeline...then he will be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, Gladiators don't seem like something there would be an awful lot of. At least compared to say... an entire Roman Legion... not to mention the image around them being tough and stuff (implying a hero in this game...)

Unique squads of two or three, I could see, but not common squads. But that's just me and I certainly won't be disappointed if there will be some :D
When even a small circuse might pit dozens of gladiators against each other? The emperor Trajan held circuses where 5000 pairs of gladiators would fight. There would have been plenty of opportunity for the Kyrie generals to summon gladiators of all types before their deaths. There's all kinds of opportunity for common squads of gladiators. Retiarii, Thraces/Hoplomachi, Samnites, Mirmillones/Secutores, Dimachaeri, Provocatores, Saggitarii, Equites, Velites...

[thehandofzarquon]

Well, I bet there are gladiator squads in the pipeline...then he will be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, Gladiators don't seem like something there would be an awful lot of. At least compared to say... an entire Roman Legion... not to mention the image around them being tough and stuff (implying a hero in this game...)

Unique squads of two or three, I could see, but not common squads. But that's just me and I certainly won't be disappointed if there will be some :D
When even a small circuse might pit dozens of gladiators against each other? The emperor Trajan held circuses where 5000 pairs of gladiators would fight. There would have been plenty of opportunity for the Kyrie generals to summon gladiators of all types before their deaths. There's all kinds of opportunity for common squads of gladiators. Retiarii, Thraces/Hoplomachi, Samnites, Mirmillones/Secutores, Dimachaeri, Provocatores, Saggitarii, Equites, Velites...

*shrugs I really don't know much about Gladiators of history, I'm just stating the image I have of them. Guess I'm proven wrong though :)

[srmalloy]

*shrugs I really don't know much about Gladiators of history, I'm just stating the image I have of them. Guess I'm proven wrong though :)
The Equites would make a really different type of figure for HeroScape, because you'd need twice the figures. They were mounted gladiators that would ride into combat, throw their lances, then dismount and fight on foot, so you'd have a mounted figure with a good movement rate and a moderate range that became a dismounted figure that was slower with a range of 1 after its first attack... Although I suppose you could keep the mounted figure and have something like a 'lance' token that gave the Equites a movement and range bonus that was removed after their first attack...

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I'm wouldn't be surprised to see some common gladiator squads. Spartacus--gladiator rebellion.

Exactly.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Btw, Crixus, like Spartacus, was an actual person:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crixus

Retiarius was a type of gladiator:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retiarius


I've so got my eye on some gladiator genre DVDs on ebay. :D

[Jason]

The Ninjas of the North and the Nikita sound awesome. The deathreavers could be great at getting adjacent to ranged units

[thehandofzarquon]

The Ninjas of the North and the Nikita sound awesome. The deathreavers could be great at getting adjacent to ranged units
Not to mention swarming too. One dies, two more start moving foward :X

I want like.... 6 squads of these guys. Of course, that means I have to have 6 of those elves, which are kinda... eh. Defense Agility is great and all, but they have to get engaged first... Now if they had frenzy like the other elves...

[bushi96]

gorrilinator bonding! woohoo! :P

[Finrod]

gorrilinator bonding! woohoo! :P

Those gorillinators are going to be ZOOMING across the map now...

[srmalloy]

Btw, Crixus, like Spartacus, was an actual person:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crixus
Retiarius was a type of gladiator:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retiarius
I suppose that stealing 'Calendio' from Quo Vadis as a famous retiarius wouldn't fly... They could always have made up a Roman name to get a unique hero with a name, rather than a description...

[gibberish_47]

The Gorillinators are worth their points now!

[Thor]

Well, I bet there are gladiator squads in the pipeline...then he will be ridiculous.
I dunno about this. The fact that we have 3 Gladiator heros really says a lot. If they were going to make a squad I doubt they would have made 3 heros all similair in terms of type. I mean I could see a common squad if we only got two heros and they were different, like one in a chariot and one on foot, but all 3 are foot soldiers.

What I do know is Taelor.. err, Spartacus seems WAY over priced. People complain about Braxas and Su-Bak dying to easily? This guy is 200 points, has a measly 5 health and 4 defense! His ability is very nice, but it's his ONLY ability unfortunetly. Maybe if he had some sort of bonding with the other Gladiators he would be mroe worth it. Actually, now that I think about it maybe there will be a squad of Gladiators. That price on Spartacus just doesn't seem right unless something else is coming out in the future. If his ability were applied to a squad of commons then I could maybe see the cost of him being justified.

Oh, and thanks a ton for these pics BoB. Now, if you could only get the other two cards up I would be forever in your debt :P

[Finrod]

With Spartacus' ability, he elevates his other two friends to being 6/4's like himself, when they only cost 90 each. The combination of all three balances out in cost, I think. But as a separate unit by himself, he's probably not worth it.

[vernz]

thanks for the pics i cant wait to get my hands on those sets

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

gorrilinator bonding! woohoo! :P

so bizarre it's with Nikita though. Would have loved to see a Primadon unique hero/squad instead of the Tighty Whities. :?

Or the Vydar FB doing the semi-bonding.

[Thor]

With Spartacus' ability, he elevates his other two friends to being 6/4's like himself, when they only cost 90 each. The combination of all three balances out in cost, I think. But as a separate unit by himself, he's probably not worth it.
Probably not worth it when you just draft him? He has the exact same stats as Drake except he has 1 more defense, no grapple, no immunity to range attacks, AND he cost 100 more points. I've never been a fan of figures that are basically worthless on their own. Even when you draft other Gladiators this guy seems questionable. For 380 points you can have 3 figures with 6atk, 4def, one of which has no special ability basically OR you could draft some heros like Drake, Valguard, etc. who all have comparable stats, all have a decent ability or two, and who all can be played independantly without restictions like needing to place order markers on them each round to get the bonus. Like I said before, as is the guy seems over priced. However, things can always chance and if a Gladiator squad were to get the power then his cost might definetly be justified...

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I've never been a fan of figures that are basically worthless on their own.

That's why we'll have a common squad of gladiators someday.

:pray:

[Finrod]

I've got it! The ultimate 400-point army!!!

Spartacus

and...

Taelord!!

380 points!

:lol:

[ultradoug]

why do they bond with the goralnators? ..?! well... now the groalantors are USEFULL :D
at walmart eh?
humm.

[Finrod]

Since BoB this morning, no one's even come ONLINE from GenCon.

Sigh...

Guess we won't have all the cards for the Houston not-GenCon gaming tomorrow. :cry:

[markwars]

Thanks for the pics BoB. :D

It will be interesting to see the three Gladiators used in 400 point army tournies.

Both Soulborg units seem better than expected.

The Ninjas and Agents are freaking awesome. I will be using both of these units a lot.

[Uprising]

Here are pics of the some wave 5. The quality is alright:



http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7717/1000782td8.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8914/1000781fq0.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/443/1000780uj0.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5223/1000776de7.jpg

I have more if you want em. Let me know.

Uprising

[Rhydderch]

Interesting that the Nakita Agents serve Vydar since they were running with Syvarris and Sgt Drake from Utgar. In the past we've been told Vydar is allied with Utgar. I wonder if that has changed.

I do like the Blastatrons and their bonding with the Gladiatrons. Makes sense. The Gladiatrons move into lock the enemy down and the Blastatrons blast with their Homing Device =)

[Finrod]

Thanks, Uprising!!!

Can you get us Crixus and Reisarius?

[Uprising]

Sure,
Give me 5 minutes and I'll have em up for ya.

[markwars]

Uprising, please share them all! :D

[Finrod]

Uprising is my new hero!

[ReverendBayes]

Thank you so much for the pics, BoB!

Quick question on these guys: does anyone remember what is the other squad that is packaged with the warmadillos?

[Thor]

YAY Uprising! Thanks to you (and BoB and Mathguy) we now have all the stats for all wave 5 figures. Big thanks guys!

I must say, I am suprised the Warriors of Ashra and Blastatrons are so dang cheap :shock: 4 figure range squad for only 60 points? And they have bonding and can boost their attack big time? Wow. I guess that makes sense though, their defense and attack alone are pretty weak.

[Thor]

Thank you so much for the pics, BoB!

Quick question on these guys: does anyone remember what is the other squad that is packaged with the warmadillos?

Deathreavers (aka Warmadillos) are packaged with the Warriors of Ashra.

[markwars]

The WoA are an awesome 50 point squad. I've been looking for a solid 50 points to add to my tournament army and this unit may be the one I've been looking for.

[Finrod]

With those, the Aubriens, and the Vipers, Ullar can REALLY swarm the battlefield!

[gamjuven]

Death reavers. Ha, fun. cheap, techno rats. That's what I will call them

[markwars]

Finrod I think my next 400 point army will be....

WoA - 50
Aubriens x 2 - 140
Venoc Warlord - 120
Venoc Vipers x 2 - 80
Total cost = 390

[Uprising]

Ok,

Here are the rest. I think I got them all. I think the Deathstalkers are bigger than the Marrden Hounds. They are huge.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m298/Uprising1979/100_0788.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m298/Uprising1979/100_0787.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m298/Uprising1979/100_0786.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m298/Uprising1979/100_0784.jpg

[Jandars_Hope]

Yay! now i feel at ease! We have the new stats for wave 5 and i think we can all wait patiently until we get our own sets!

[Finrod]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

I have all of them now for our gaming session tomorrow!!

[Jandars_Hope]

Have fun finrod!

[markwars]

Thanks for the nice pics of the cards with the figures. ;)

[Uprising]

No problem fellas. Enjoy.

[feekonea]

wow thanks to bob and uprising, i have to say, wave 5 has impressed me!

[dickflea]

Oh man!!! 200 points for a unique hero is a bit much :shock: no matter how good their attack is......

Might be good for games with more points.

[hex706f726368]

I'm drooling over those blastatrons. Thanks for uploading pics!

[geddy lifeson]

I've got it! The ultimate 400-point army!!!

Spartacus

and...

Taelord!!

380 points!

:lol:

Holy crap...you are definately on to something there. Just imagine them looking down the battlefield at a swarm of vipers/orcs/marro drones/etc.


:shock: Spartacus: Taelord, we're gonna die
:shock: Taelord: I don't die that much...arrrrrggggggggh

[thehandofzarquon]

Interesting that the Nakita Agents serve Vydar since they were running with Syvarris and Sgt Drake from Utgar. In the past we've been told Vydar is allied with Utgar. I wonder if that has changed.

I do like the Blastatrons and their bonding with the Gladiatrons. Makes sense. The Gladiatrons move into lock the enemy down and the Blastatrons blast with their Homing Device =)

The more interesting point about that comic is that not only are they working with them, but their "ally" Baraxas (or whatever the black dragon is...) is sieging the castle they are trying to seek refuge in. :x

[jaques]

With Spartacus' ability, he elevates his other two friends to being 6/4's like himself, when they only cost 90 each. The combination of all three balances out in cost, I think. But as a separate unit by himself, he's probably not worth it.
Probably not worth it when you just draft him? He has the exact same stats as Drake except he has 1 more defense, no grapple, no immunity to range attacks, AND he cost 100 more points. I've never been a fan of figures that are basically worthless on their own. Even when you draft other Gladiators this guy seems questionable. For 380 points you can have 3 figures with 6atk, 4def, one of which has no special ability basically OR you could draft some heros like Drake, Valguard, etc. who all have comparable stats, all have a decent ability or two, and who all can be played independantly without restictions like needing to place order markers on them each round to get the bonus. Like I said before, as is the guy seems over priced. However, things can always chance and if a Gladiator squad were to get the power then his cost might definetly be justified...

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong -- but isn't the "X" order marker, well, an order marker? So you can hang Spartacus back and whale on people with Crixus and Retiarus as 6/4 figs -- with Crixus unlikely to take more than one wound in a turn, and Retiarus able to deliver a 6-die attack that has a good chance of essentially being unblockable.

I agree that Spartacus alone is not worth drafting. But his buddies are genuinely frightening with him behind them.

Throw in Taelord (I know, everybody's laughing), and you could have the equivalent of three Jotuns for 560 points. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty scared of the idea of facing an 8-die attack and only being able to roll one defense die.

[JELEINEN]

With Spartacus' ability, he elevates his other two friends to being 6/4's like himself, when they only cost 90 each. The combination of all three balances out in cost, I think. But as a separate unit by himself, he's probably not worth it.
Probably not worth it when you just draft him? He has the exact same stats as Drake except he has 1 more defense, no grapple, no immunity to range attacks, AND he cost 100 more points. I've never been a fan of figures that are basically worthless on their own. Even when you draft other Gladiators this guy seems questionable. For 380 points you can have 3 figures with 6atk, 4def, one of which has no special ability basically OR you could draft some heros like Drake, Valguard, etc. who all have comparable stats, all have a decent ability or two, and who all can be played independantly without restictions like needing to place order markers on them each round to get the bonus. Like I said before, as is the guy seems over priced. However, things can always chance and if a Gladiator squad were to get the power then his cost might definetly be justified...

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong -- but isn't the "X" order marker, well, an order marker? So you can hang Spartacus back and whale on people with Crixus and Retiarus as 6/4 figs -- with Crixus unlikely to take more than one wound in a turn, and Retiarus able to deliver a 6-die attack that has a good chance of essentially being unblockable.

I agree that Spartacus alone is not worth drafting. But his buddies are genuinely frightening with him behind them.

Throw in Taelord (I know, everybody's laughing), and you could have the equivalent of three Jotuns for 560 points. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty scared of the idea of facing an 8-die attack and only being able to roll one defense die.

The X order marker thing was exactly what I was thinking. I'd have to try it in play first, but I think that plan would work well.

[feekonea]

well the only problem is our going to have to send taelord u frist, so you can place all of your order markers on the gladiators.

[justjohn]

Awesome work guys. Thanks for both of your efforts getting this stuff to us.

[Marsman]

With Spartacus' ability, he elevates his other two friends to being 6/4's like himself, when they only cost 90 each. The combination of all three balances out in cost, I think. But as a separate unit by himself, he's probably not worth it.
Probably not worth it when you just draft him? He has the exact same stats as Drake except he has 1 more defense, no grapple, no immunity to range attacks, AND he cost 100 more points. I've never been a fan of figures that are basically worthless on their own. Even when you draft other Gladiators this guy seems questionable. For 380 points you can have 3 figures with 6atk, 4def, one of which has no special ability basically OR you could draft some heros like Drake, Valguard, etc. who all have comparable stats, all have a decent ability or two, and who all can be played independantly without restictions like needing to place order markers on them each round to get the bonus. Like I said before, as is the guy seems over priced. However, things can always chance and if a Gladiator squad were to get the power then his cost might definetly be justified...

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong -- but isn't the "X" order marker, well, an order marker? So you can hang Spartacus back and whale on people with Crixus and Retiarus as 6/4 figs -- with Crixus unlikely to take more than one wound in a turn, and Retiarus able to deliver a 6-die attack that has a good chance of essentially being unblockable.

I agree that Spartacus alone is not worth drafting. But his buddies are genuinely frightening with him behind them.

Throw in Taelord (I know, everybody's laughing), and you could have the equivalent of three Jotuns for 560 points. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty scared of the idea of facing an 8-die attack and only being able to roll one defense die.

You could use Finn, and then place him on whichever lasts the longest.

[jaques]

well the only problem is our going to have to send taelord u frist, so you can place all of your order markers on the gladiators.

Or you have the combo set up right behind the castle door.

[Thingemon]

this wave looks better than expected. after seeing the wave 6 pics I thought that wave 5 looked measly and stupid. But i was mistaken, its looking really good. Lol id much rather have elf chicks then amazons. and uprising was posting those pics with snow tiles in the back. does this mean that wave 5 comes w/ snow? and how much in each? 2 or 4?
cool.

[markwars]

well the only problem is our going to have to send taelord u frist, so you can place all of your order markers on the gladiators.

Or you have the combo set up right behind the castle door.

That's one heck of a welcoming party! :shock:

[Jonathan]

So awesome! Thanks for turning my eager anticipation into joy :D

[Agent Minivann]

Well, I bet there are gladiator squads in the pipeline...then he will be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, Gladiators don't seem like something there would be an awful lot of. At least compared to say... an entire Roman Legion... not to mention the image around them being tough and stuff (implying a hero in this game...)

Unique squads of two or three, I could see, but not common squads. But that's just me and I certainly won't be disappointed if there will be some :D

I think, going with the Spartacus idea, common squads makes sense. Gladiator revolt vs. Roman Legion. History has a way of being retooled for Heroscape. Might not be too true to reality, but it is a game for "kids" after all.

[Agent Minivann]

gorrilinator bonding! woohoo! :P

so bizarre it's with Nikita though. Would have loved to see a Primadon unique hero/squad instead of the Tighty Whities. :?

Or the Vydar FB doing the semi-bonding.

Girls in anti-matrix suits (unless you count the chick from the first one, Switch?) bonding with gorillinators? If this wasn't a "kid friendly" site, I can only imagine the comments. :twisted:

[thehandofzarquon]

gorrilinator bonding! woohoo! :P

so bizarre it's with Nikita though. Would have loved to see a Primadon unique hero/squad instead of the Tighty Whities. :?

Or the Vydar FB doing the semi-bonding.

Girls in anti-matrix suits (unless you count the chick from the first one, Switch?) bonding with gorillinators? If this wasn't a "kid friendly" site, I can only imagine the comments. :twisted:
I'm pretty sure they've been implied :puke:

[Agent Minivann]

With Spartacus' ability, he elevates his other two friends to being 6/4's like himself, when they only cost 90 each. The combination of all three balances out in cost, I think. But as a separate unit by himself, he's probably not worth it.
Probably not worth it when you just draft him? He has the exact same stats as Drake except he has 1 more defense, no grapple, no immunity to range attacks, AND he cost 100 more points. I've never been a fan of figures that are basically worthless on their own. Even when you draft other Gladiators this guy seems questionable. For 380 points you can have 3 figures with 6atk, 4def, one of which has no special ability basically OR you could draft some heros like Drake, Valguard, etc. who all have comparable stats, all have a decent ability or two, and who all can be played independantly without restictions like needing to place order markers on them each round to get the bonus. Like I said before, as is the guy seems over priced. However, things can always chance and if a Gladiator squad were to get the power then his cost might definetly be justified...

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong -- but isn't the "X" order marker, well, an order marker? So you can hang Spartacus back and whale on people with Crixus and Retiarus as 6/4 figs -- with Crixus unlikely to take more than one wound in a turn, and Retiarus able to deliver a 6-die attack that has a good chance of essentially being unblockable.

I agree that Spartacus alone is not worth drafting. But his buddies are genuinely frightening with him behind them.

Throw in Taelord (I know, everybody's laughing), and you could have the equivalent of three Jotuns for 560 points. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty scared of the idea of facing an 8-die attack and only being able to roll one defense die.

The X order marker thing was exactly what I was thinking. I'd have to try it in play first, but I think that plan would work well.

Oblig Family Guy:
Clevland(sp?): Oh, Peter, That's just nasty.

All three gladiators in one army X on Spartacus and the other two do all the heavy lifting.

thehandofzarquon: I was thinking about that, but I wasn't catching it. I'm slow sometimes (and tired).