Favorite Flag Bearer - New Clear Pics!!!

[allskulls]

Thanks goes to LilNewbie again on the pics! Wellspring Award worthy!

And thak you to Bungee for clearer Jandar, Ullar, & Utgar pics!

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10026/Flag_Bearer_Vydar.jpg
Vydar

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10026/Flag_Bearer_Einar.jpg
Einar

http://z.about.com/d/boardgames/1/0/4/d/gc06_heroscape_09.jpg
JandarPhoto taken by Erik Arneson and originally found at the About.com Heroscape Gallery (http://boardgames.about.com/od/heroscape/ig/GenCon06/index.htm)

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10007/ullarbearer.jpg
Ullar

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10007/orcbearer.jpg
Utgar

Thanks to Erik Arneson for these links...

Vydar and Utgar:
http://boardgames.about.com/od/heroscape/ig/GenCon06/Flag-Bearers-1.htm

Utgar and Jandar:
http://boardgames.about.com/od/heroscape/ig/GenCon06/Flag-Bearers-2.htm

Jandar, Ullar and Einar:
http://boardgames.about.com/od/heroscape/ig/GenCon06/Flag-Bearers-3.htm

[feekonea]

Vydar. it is awesome.

[allskulls]

This was a tie for me...Vydar and Einar. I gave it to Vydar for the flag guns and the Gorilinator's wooden leg (I'm gonna have to add a kick stand to that :D ).

[Nooblar]

Utgar, for the evilness. I was going to choose Jandar, but it's soooo sterotypically Good that I guess I'll just end up using it in my pseudo-RPG games.

Utgar ftw.

[Venom]

whoops! chose the wrong one. i meant Ullar. i just love elves

[allskulls]

The price is making a whole lot more sense to me as I look at them more. The detail is great! And I assume the addition to gameplay will surpass any normal expansion set.

[D-Dyzzle]

i voted ullar. cant turn down that flag.

[Venom]

plus the dice, i really hope those don't wear off like the orig. ones

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Einar's flag bearer is the best in my opinion. Love that sculpt, pose, and flag!!!

[D-Dyzzle]

plus the dice, i really hope those don't wear off like the orig. ones

Dice? what dice. any pics

[allskulls]

Einar's flag bearer is the best in my opinion. Love that sculpt, pose, and flag!!!
I did vote Vydar but I just know I will be using Einar's the most.

HEH - Thanks for the "favorite figure" inspiration!

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Einar's flag bearer is the best in my opinion. Love that sculpt, pose, and flag!!!
I did vote Vydar but I just know I will be using Einar's the most.

HEH - Thanks for the "favorite figure" inspiration!

Thanks for putting this poll up! Keep them coming if you want to do the other ones as well! I really like them!

[allskulls]

plus the dice, i really hope those don't wear off like the orig. ones

Dice? what dice. any pics
In the other thread it was reported that they come with combat dice with a new symbol where it's normally blank. Plus the D20.

[D-Dyzzle]

plus the dice, i really hope those don't wear off like the orig. ones

Dice? what dice. any pics
In the other thread it was reported that they come with combat dice with a new symbol where it's normally blank. Plus the D20.

which thread? got a link plz.

[allskulls]

Thanks, HEH!

Hmmmm...I wonder if the new symbol is the generals' logos :ponder:

[allskulls]

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=1689&highlight=

D-Diz - Lotta pages to search through...have at it!

[srmalloy]

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10026/Flag_Bearer_Einar.jpg
Einar
Oh, that's hilarious... That has to be one of the more entertaining throwaways in HeroScape... (hope the Unicode comes through for everybody) The kanji on the banner?

英雄 -- "Hero".

Truth in advertising, I suppose... :D

[Venom]

it really stand for hero?

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Einar
Oh, that's hilarious... That has to be one of the more entertaining throwaways in HeroScape... (hope the Unicode comes through for everybody) The kanji on the banner?

英雄 -- "Hero".

Truth in advertising, I suppose... :D

I'm missing it? Explain?

[D-Dyzzle]

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=1689&highlight=

D-Diz - Lotta pages to search through...have at it!

thnx

[Jandars_Hope]

Vydar looks the best (although i do like the Ullar and Einar flags).
A Giant Gorilla daddy-Awesome!

[dickflea]

Einar
Oh, that's hilarious... That has to be one of the more entertaining throwaways in HeroScape... (hope the Unicode comes through for everybody) The kanji on the banner?

英雄 -- "Hero".

Truth in advertising, I suppose... :D

I'm missing it? Explain?

The characters on the flag mean Hero.

[Venom]

why would they put hero on the flag? :shrug: kinda wierd to me

[Jandars_Hope]

Maybe they couldn't think of what else to put on it! and heroscape may be a bit too long to put on it...who knows?!

[-Zim-]

I really really like the Ullar's flagbearer.

[Oprime]

I gave it to Vydar for the flag guns and the Gorilinator's wooden leg (I'm gonna have to add a kick stand to that :D ).

That was exactly my first thoughts too, and my vote!

Its interesting though, guns would imply range.

Then Vydar appears to have to only flagbearear with a possible randed attack.

[jdtenor]

Vydar is the best looking one. I think? Even if I don't like the Gorrilinators. Maybe this gorrilla will kick ass, bonding? :johnwoo:

[Jandars_Hope]

Aw, the gorillinators are good! And the irony of the vydar FB having a peg leg is that alot of peeps wanted pirates...well they got part of it right :D

[K/H_Addict]

i'm speechless. i don't know if i like it or hate it. i voted einar.


damn it. i was just getting over my Castle excitement. now i have to look forward to new dice? damn you hasbro! i don't think i can make it!

[Jandars_Hope]

we're all there with you...just a few more months and they willa ll be yours for the taking!

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

What is up with Yvdar's FB? In the faraway shot, I thought the Primadon was holding two swords, but it appears they're handles for the flag and the firearms on top.
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10026/Flag_Bearer_Vydar.jpg

[K/H_Addict]

somehow i highly doubt that. TT was released back in may (3 months ago) and i still have yet to see it in person. I only have RV because i ordered from HMG. So, if they hit stores in october, i'll probably see them next february or so...

[AgentX-127]

Ullar's Elf Flag bearer.

The Gorillanator Flag Bearer is a close second for me.

Someone please help me figure out...Where else have I seen a gorilla with a peg-leg...I know I have, probably in a comic. I know there were a squad of cyber-gorillas in some comic but I can't find it and I don't think it was Gorilla Grod either.

[Jandars_Hope]

What is up with Yvdar's FB? In the faraway shot, I thought the Primadon was holding two swords, but it appears they're handles for the flag and the firearms on top.
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10026/Flag_Bearer_Vydar.jpg

*Go! Go! Gadget Laser Gun Flag!*

[feekonea]

I dont really like the guns @ the top of his flag, I think they're quite stupid.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I dont really like the guns @ the top of his flag, I think they're quite stupid.

Me too. And a peg leg Standard bearer? WTH? How's he going to keep up with the crowd? :lol:

Jandar's looks too Palandish too me
Ullar's is too fanciful for my tastes.
Utgar's is Grut - HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A FREAKIN" MARRO (or better yet a Wulsinu with a flag harness on its back 8) )


That's why I went with Einar's FB. He just that cool.

[allskulls]

What's a flag that doesn't shoot?

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

What's a flag that doesn't shoot?

Something I could salute!

Imagine the intimidation of standing in front of Vydar's rag? Those things could go off at any time! :D

[allskulls]

"Fear will keep them in line."

Vader fights for Vydar :shock:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

"Fear will keep them in line."

Vader fights for Vydar :shock:

Vader IS Vydar!

[feekonea]

Ya the einar dude was my 2nd favorite, the gorrilinator had to be first though, even though the guns were amazingly stupid. How the heck does he expect to shoot those and hit? its like a one in one hundred chance thatll happen...and when it does ill probably roll all blanks! no! :D

[allskulls]

Vydar is Sgt. Drake's father!

[CupidsArt]

My fav is Ullar, with Einar coming in at a VERY close second, :D


I'm just an Ullar junkie I guess.. :woot: :banana: :woot:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Vydar is Sgt. Drake's father!

Yeah, It's Vader, for sure - he's the general who survied Hot Lava Death on a roll of 20! :lol:

[Eclipse]

Ullar has the best figure associated with it. I voted for that, but I'm not extremely excited about the banner itself.

Einar's awesome in every way. Maybe a little bland but all around probably the most consistently good.

Vydar's was way cooler when I thought he had 2 knives. The handle on his gun arrangement is a little less cool. The guns are hilarious though.

Jandear's is really cool, but his banner is WAY too small.

Utgar's is kinda cool, but the figure is the most boring by far.

[allskulls]

Vydar is Sgt. Drake's father!

Yeah, It's Vader, for sure - he's the general who survied Hot Lava Death on a roll of 20! :lol:
So, you think the Gorillinators are really unloyal wookies...and why is Han Solo (Murphy) with Vader?

[vernz]

i voted ullar i like the elves and thats a cool looking flag

[ultradoug]

an orc?!
sigh- i went with the samari lookin guy :/

[markwars]

If there's an orc in the poll I'm going to vote on it.

[geddy lifeson]

I have to vote for Vydar, the figure looks awesome. I am also a fan of gorillas this is gonna make it so more cool to bring them out now.

[monkeyfish]

Vydar Easily however I came close to voting for Ullar.

[Gambit]

as ussual i have to stand behind ullar, however vydars looks pretty cool to

[bluekitsune13]

They did a really good job with all the themes and such. For a favorite though, I'm a sucker for elves. And Ullar's elf, and the flag look so cool. Vydar comes in a close second for the Gorillanator and the cool high tech flag with guns. Einar is a third with Utgar and Jandar behind them. But still, they're all very nicely crafted, and I look forward to getting them all.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

If there's an orc in the poll I'm going to vote on it.

*grumbling*

Utgar's FB shoulda been a damned Marro. :evil:

[Gambit]

If there's an orc in the poll I'm going to vote on it.

*grumbling*

Utgar's FB shoulda been a damned Marro. :evil:

i have to agree, the marros would fit the job much better

[skyknight]

The Gorrilator flag bearer may be one of the best figs ever

[geddy lifeson]

The Gorrilator flag bearer may be one of the best figs ever

Very true sky.

[Hahma]

I like Einar best because of the badass cockiness of the figure. He has a superior calm and confidence about him that would inspire a similar confidence in the followers of Einar.

[Venom]

i actually believe the orc is fine to carry the flag and not a marro. reason being that the orcs seem to be the front line to get slaughtered and the marro are more of a warrior than the orcs imo.

[Hahma]

i actually believe the orc is fine to carry the flag and not a marro. reason being that the orcs seem to be the front line to get slaughtered and the marro are more of a warrior than the orcs imo.

Orcs are merely fodder :chainsaw:

[Uprising]

I like Einar's Standard Bearer the best. He looks stern and fearless. I would have liked Utgar's to be a big Troll. I think it would have looked awesome. Not that the Orc isn't cool, he just looks a little weak.

[ptucker78]

I have to vote for Vydar, the guns on the flag are a bit cheesy... But the peg-leg gorillinator is pretty damn cool in my book. The others were just too much of what you would expect them to do: Knight for Jandar, Orc for Utgar, etc.

[Venom]

lol! i didn't even notice the guns :lol:

[bunjee]

I have to get on the plane now, but there are some infocus versions of the blurring ones in my gallery now.

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/thumbnails.php?album=319

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I have to get on the plane now, but there are some infocus versions of the blurring ones in my gallery now.

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/thumbnails.php?album=319

Additional photos! Thanks Bunjee!

[feekonea]

lol! i didn't even notice the guns :lol:

...Lucky you :D

[Joah]

There should be a " Love Them All" option.

[feekonea]

There should be a " Love Them All" option.

....
einar 0%
ullar 0%
utgar 0%
jandar 0%
vydar 0%
love them all 100%
891 votes

:D

[allskulls]

I have to get on the plane now, but there are some infocus versions of the blurring ones in my gallery now.

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/thumbnails.php?album=319
Added the clear ones to first post. Thanks, Bunjee!

[markwars]

Check out Erik Arneson's pic of the Jandar Flag Bearer, allskulls. It's at a much better angle. ;)

[allskulls]

Check out Erik Arneson's pic of the Jandar Flag Bearer, allskulls. It's at a much better angle. ;)
I was just looking at that...I would bring it over here but don't have the time right now (bunjee's were easy since shea had them in the HSers gallery).

Erik also has a better pic of the ghosts.

[erikarneson]

I was just looking at that...I would bring it over here but don't have the time right now (bunjee's were easy since shea had them in the HSers gallery). Erik also has a better pic of the ghosts.

Here are my photos of the flag bearers:

Vydar and Utgar:
http://boardgames.about.com/od/heroscape/ig/GenCon06/Flag-Bearers-1.htm

Utgar and Jandar:
http://boardgames.about.com/od/heroscape/ig/GenCon06/Flag-Bearers-2.htm

Jandar, Ullar and Einar:
http://boardgames.about.com/od/heroscape/ig/GenCon06/Flag-Bearers-3.htm

And my photo of the Ghost Squad (off-topic for this thread; sorry about that):
http://boardgames.about.com/od/heroscape/ig/GenCon06/Wave6-1.htm

Cheers,
Erik

[allskulls]

Thanks, Erik!

[K/H_Addict]

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10007/ullarbearer.jpg
Ullar





dude. he looks like a fairy. with the wings behind him... :lol:

[bad_calvin]

It is all about the Gorrilanators.
I hope to gawd that this bad boy will add some bonus to them.

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10026/Flag_Bearer_Vydar.jpg

[markwars]

It's all in the Orc for me. 8)

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10007/orcbearer.jpg

[dickflea]

I think i'm changing from Vydar to Ullar....the elf just looks so much more cool :D

[Drumline3469]

Does the gnator have a pegleg? Argh that is awesome.

[Dragonslayer]

Utgar - the Orc looks remarkably like Max Schreck as Count Orlock in Murnau's Nosferatu :shock:

[Jormi_Boced]

Does the gnator have a pegleg? Argh that is awesome.

He sure does, and he is not wearing any pants like the other nators, so you know he is a crazy mo fo.

[feekonea]

Does the gnator have a pegleg? Argh that is awesome.

He sure does, and he is not wearing any pants like the other nators, so you know he is a crazy mo fo.


:rofl:

[Hahma]

Now that we have clear close-ups, I see the elf has a look on his face like he's pinching a loaf. I really didn't need to see that. :shock:

[Teamski]

I really need these guys! Thanks for the clear shots!

-Ski

[Nwojedi]

thought this was voting for the best looking out of the flag bearers. not the team you like the best.

I love Ullar, but the sculpt on that flag, is aweful. The face looks like he ate something he's allergic to. And the detail is ass. I voted einar, just cuz it looks the best.

These are said to be released in Oct, as a TRU exclusive for 9.99.

If each of these figures are 9.99 and only include a D20 and another special 6 sider. I'm going to be pissed. $10 for one damn figure..with no terrain, or anything? WEAK!. If it's $7 per figure. maybe, but even that's pushing it.

[CornPuff]

did anyone get a pic of the back of the box?

It mentioned that instead of moving ornak, you could use 2 utgar heroes in his place. double crappy bonding = frickin awesome.

has anyone mentioned this? its so hard to keep up with the boards these days....

[DarkSpade]

did anyone get a pic of the back of the box?

It mentioned that instead of moving ornak, you could use 2 utgar heroes in his place. double crappy bonding = frickin awesome.

has anyone mentioned this? its so hard to keep up with the boards these days....

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10119/100_0054.JPG

[erikarneson]

The back of the box says this:

***

Unleash the Fury of Your Utgar Army!

Ornak may spell double trouble for your enemies by dispatching two Utgar-led Heroes to fight in his place. And a roll of the Valkyrie dice may give your Orc Warriors extra attack power! Use the Valkyrie dice in normal combat (counting only skulls or shields), or as described on Ornak's Army Card.

Contents: 1 painted figure, 1 army card, 14 Valkyrie dice, 20-sided die, cloth pouch.

###

[Jandars_Hope]

I wish they told us all 5 of their names and not just one!

[Jormi_Boced]

I wish they told us all 5 of their names and not just one!

I wish they told us all their names, stats, specials etc...

[markwars]

I wish they told us that all five would also come in a larger box and be available for purchase online.

[Eclipse]

Double crappy bonding? Wow, that is a powerful ability. It should prove interesting to see how these guys change the usefulness of Hero figures (since it sounds like you can't double bond squads). Also, I hope they boost more than just the orcs. Interesting stuff in any case.

[Jormi_Boced]

Double crappy bonding? Wow, that is a powerful ability. It should prove interesting to see how these guys change the usefulness of Hero figures (since it sounds like you can't double bond squads). Also, I hope they boost more than just the orcs. Interesting stuff in any case.

Crappy bonding?

[Eclipse]

Double crappy bonding? Wow, that is a powerful ability. It should prove interesting to see how these guys change the usefulness of Hero figures (since it sounds like you can't double bond squads). Also, I hope they boost more than just the orcs. Interesting stuff in any case.

Crappy bonding?

When you take a turn with the bonded unit INSTEAD of the bonding unit rather than in addition to. Minions of Utgar have crappy bonding. You can choose to move with Taelord instead of the Minions. True bonding like the Knights of Weston or Roman Legionaires let you take a turn with another unit in addition to the unit selected.

[Jormi_Boced]

Double crappy bonding? Wow, that is a powerful ability. It should prove interesting to see how these guys change the usefulness of Hero figures (since it sounds like you can't double bond squads). Also, I hope they boost more than just the orcs. Interesting stuff in any case.

Crappy bonding?

When you take a turn with the bonded unit INSTEAD of the bonding unit rather than in addition to. Minions of Utgar have crappy bonding. You can choose to move with Taelord instead of the Minions. True bonding like the Knights of Weston or Roman Legionaires let you take a turn with another unit in addition to the unit selected.

To me it sounded like one would get to use two heroes. I don't think that is crappy. The bearer may well be a hero as well. I don't know yet.

[Eclipse]

Crappy bonding is awful. You just trade one unit's turn marker for another.

Double crappy bonding is awesome. You trade one unit's turn marker in to move two additional units.

Up until the flagbearer box, there's never been a unit with this one for 2 turn trade ability. The only unit with a similar ability is the Minions of Utgar, whose ability is often called "Crappy Bonding". Double crappy bonding isn't bad at all :lol:

[UranusPChicago]

To me it sounded like one would get to use two heroes. I don't think that is crappy. The bearer may well be a hero as well. I don't know yet.

What if the Flag Bearer was an Orc Champion? Would that help with Double Crappy Bonding? Wow, that would make the Orc Army pretty dang powerful...

[Jormi_Boced]

To me it sounded like one would get to use two heroes. I don't think that is crappy. The bearer may well be a hero as well. I don't know yet.

What if the Flag Bearer was an Orc Champion? Would that help with Double Crappy Bonding? Wow, that would make the Orc Army pretty dang powerful...

Well I think moving 2 heroes with one turn marker could be pretty powerful, but I guess that is just me.

[LilNewbie]

To me it sounded like one would get to use two heroes. I don't think that is crappy. The bearer may well be a hero as well. I don't know yet.

What if the Flag Bearer was an Orc Champion? Would that help with Double Crappy Bonding? Wow, that would make the Orc Army pretty dang powerful...

Well I think moving 2 heroes with one turn marker could be pretty powerful, but I guess that is just me.

Not just you, Jormi. That is a cool ability. Anytime a figure can be moved without spending extra actions is a bonus (even if they don't get to attack.) The key to this game is using activations wisely and getting to move multiple units with one order marker lets a good player set up better offensive or defensive strategies. One simple example is no longer needing to spend an order marker on Raelin to keep her near the troops she is supporting.

Newb.

[Jormi_Boced]

To me it sounded like one would get to use two heroes. I don't think that is crappy. The bearer may well be a hero as well. I don't know yet.

What if the Flag Bearer was an Orc Champion? Would that help with Double Crappy Bonding? Wow, that would make the Orc Army pretty dang powerful...

Well I think moving 2 heroes with one turn marker could be pretty powerful, but I guess that is just me.

Not just you, Jormi. That is a cool ability. Anytime a figure can be moved without spending extra actions is a bonus (even if they don't get to attack.) The key to this game is using activations wisely and getting to move multiple units with one order marker lets a good player set up better offensive or defensive strategies. One simple example is no longer needing to spend an order marker on Raelin to keep her near the troops she is supporting.

Newb.

Well I am glad someone else agrees, of course, none of us really know what this special is going to be. I

forsee it as when you activate him, you will be able to choose to activate two orc champions, and he may very well be an orc champion, so you could maybe get to use him too. I dunno though. I guess, I am not ready to trash talk him until he actually comes out.

[Nwojedi]

move bonding with raylin or even healer chic, would be huge advantages. Even thor and Finn. Being able to haul them along for the ride is huge.

[Eclipse]

Thor and Finn are easy enough already with the Human Champion Bonding available from the Knights of Westin and MacDirk Warriors. Concan and Raelin are characters who are really hard to keep in range for their bonuses.

[CornPuff]

I also think crappy bonding isn't crappy at all, somebody else used that term for the minions first..

Anyway, about those heroes... Which 2 would be best to use? Early votes go toward krug, tae, and deathwalkers. Brunak or khosumet? What about an army of dumetefs moving like 2 man squads?

Could you use brunak to carry a hero, then use that hero on the same turn?

Ah, speculascape...

[allskulls]

Cornpuff- I was thinking the same thing about Dumetefs (having used 2 of them for the first time last night). Throw in Khosumet, some wolves and some Minions!

[BIGJIM]

JUST THINK OF IT ! KRUG . FLAG BEARER , AND BLADE GRUNTS ! GOD I LOVE THE ORCS. DAMN THERE GOES THE DROLLING AGAIN ! :nkick:

[MacG]

I forsee it as when you activate him, you will be able to choose to activate two orc champions, and he may very well be an orc champion, so you could maybe get to use him too. I dunno though. I guess, I am not ready to trash talk him until he actually comes out.

I think someone mentioned that you can activate HIM or two OTHER (not him) heroes. Either he goes, or he uses the flag to wave them forward?

[Jormi_Boced]

I forsee it as when you activate him, you will be able to choose to activate two orc champions, and he may very well be an orc champion, so you could maybe get to use him too. I dunno though. I guess, I am not ready to trash talk him until he actually comes out.

I think someone mentioned that you can activate HIM or two OTHER (not him) heroes. Either he goes, or he uses the flag to wave them forward?

How do they know that though?

[hex706f726368]

Never mind, I misread the back of the box quote.

[ylikone]

Nobody else thinks the Ullar guy looks a bit flamboyant? Gay perhaps?

And Vydar has guns on his flag? HA HA HA HA can't stop.. HA HA HA laughing.. HA HA HA!!!

[theats]

well, vydar has a pegleg, jandar has a feather hat, ullar's looks constipated, einar looks lazy, resting on his sword.

and Utgars looks sweet, so, utgar.

[Chimpy]

Lazy! You think think he looks lazy!?! He is a figure that shines with grim determination, staring death in the face, ready to inspire his troops into battle.

Besides, Utgar's flagbearer has a problem with cutting up his own flag.

(Besides, we all know that the Primadon flagbearer is the best.)

[theats]

um, you mean piratedon, right, he has a wooden peg leg. :rofl:

[Darhelm]

Jandar's for sure. Don't know why but he is just so sweet. :buttkick:

[theats]

oh yeah, captain feather hat queer man?

[Jandars_Hope]

oh yeah, captain feather hat queer man?

:rofl:
That feather does make him look 'funny'!
And his flag looks the worst! Vydar for sure it awesome!

[dnutt99]

IMO, both Einar and Ullar FB's look savage. Vydar is cool, he's just a bit bulky. :? I fear [ossibly having to maneuver him in tighter spots, ... We shall see.

[robaula]

Has to be Vydar - the minguns mounted on the top of the banner do it for me :-)

[theats]

HE HAS A PEGLEG!!

GORRILLAS WITH WOODEN LEGA ARE NOT "COOL"

and by wueer, i meant gay, you UK folks might get mixed up.

[robaula]

nope, queer and gay here mean the same as where you are.

I still like the Vydar Flagbearer, though, wooden leg or not. One thing that surprised me though is that Vydar, with all of its apparent technolgy, hasnt fitted the Monkey with a bionical cyborg leg.

[theats]

because, he was spending all his funding on putting lazer pointers on the flag.

[Venom]

because, he was spending all his funding on putting lazer pointers on the flag.

:word:

[Jandars_Hope]

HE HAS A PEGLEG!!

GORRILLAS WITH WOODEN LEGA ARE NOT "COOL"

and by wueer, i meant gay, you UK folks might get mixed up.
No, i knew what you meant theats. Over here we sometimes use 'funny' as in weird, gay etc

[theats]

oh, :oops: , sorry for the literature derived steryotype of you redcoats.

jk,jk,im just jokin.

[Country_Dragon]

Ok Vydar is cool but I just dont like cyber monkeys I gotta go with Einar. Samurai are kickin.

[Venom]

holy crap! that's a huge ava. u may want to down size it or change it before the admins do. that looks like nelf. :P

[Jandars_Hope]

holy crap! that's a huge ava. u may want to down size it or change it before the admins do. that looks like nelf. :P

Dude-that avi is rather large isn't it? Didn't you know that Nilfheim enjoys fishing when he isn't required to fight in Valhalla!

[theats]

THATS WAY TOO GARGANTUAN!!!

BUT ITS SW#EET

[yagyuninja]

:rofl:

That avatar is hilariously huge. Cool though.

[Country_Dragon]

Thanx for the comps on the ava it was either that or a half dragon with a pitbull on a leash cornering an elf. I went with this one cause it was full color though. Oh and soeey for the size I wasnt sure on how to downsize.

[Venom]

so what's neilf doing in springfield by mr. burns power plant

[Country_Dragon]

so what's neilf doing in springfield by mr. burns power plant


Little known fact Neilf's summer home: Springfield. Been fishing ever since banned from Moe's best fish in the world too.

[dragonfire]

vyadars looks awesome

[deadeyedan42]

Einar's flag bearer is the best in my opinion. Love that sculpt, pose, and flag!!!
ditto.

[auralerogeny]

I dont really like the guns @ the top of his flag, I think they're quite stupid.

I agree. Ullar is my favorite, his flag is very ornate, which is something that you should expect from an elf. I love elves...I didn't really like Liv Tyler until I saw her with Elf ears, and then I just about knutted my shorts...

[j-Bird]

Einar my favorite, he's the most visually pleasing.

I dont really like the guns @ the top of his flag, I think they're quite stupid.

Sorry, but the guns rule.
Vydar: (Guns on flag) = (Range >1). I also like the circuitry motif on the flag. Microchipped monkeys are cool.

Utgar: An orc is an orc... they're expendable right?

Ullar: Nice looking flag, but an ugly elf. Looks like Grumpy from the Seven Dwarves.

Jandar: Nice paint, but his face is showing (like one of the ninjas)...and is that an ostrich feather?( might as well be a peacock feather)...matches the tassle on his flag though.

[johnny139]

I'd have to say Ullar.

But I like elves, so, I'm biased. Einar is in a close second, and I don't like the Vydar one.

Now, I love Gorillanaters, but this one is far beyond my scope.

[jumpman_14]

Einar looks awesome

[Menchy]

gotta love vydar, hes the only one with range. jandar is so cliche, i actually dont have orcs, yes i know im a terrible person, i really just dislike einar, and i have too few elves to liek ullar's. i mean there are only what like 4?

Syvarris
Morsebane
Warriors of Ashra
Aubrien Archers

yeah...hes just not worth it

[Nwojedi]

but you have to remember. You can have mulitples of the amazon chics and the archers. Now think about 3 sets of each of those. Now what do you have? Big can of whoopass that doesn't die, that's what. OH yea, What now? Boo yea beaoches. :P

[django]

wow I just realized that the bearers in the pic have stickers on them.that sucks!

[Nwojedi]

wow I just realized that the bearers in the pic have stickers on them.that sucks!

What did you expect. They were ONLY $13 a peice. :P

[django]

the bearers we have dont I think thats worth a buck or two.they should have boxed them all up for $20 and sell the dice separate. remember when you could go to TRU and buy a a pack of weapons for your gi-joes? they need to sell stuff like that again.http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/f8/64/44_1.JPG

[skyknight]

And yet another member joins the WTF were they thinking with those prices club :wink:

[Junge Roman]

Can I join that club too skyknight?

What were they thinking?

[Nwojedi]

yea, we have matching T shirts. Sign up quick, before Hasbro releases something else.

[Zealot]

wow I just realized that the bearers in the pic have stickers on them.that sucks!

They may have stickers on them in those pictures but the Utgar flag bearer that I'm holding right now is solid, no stickers at all, just colored like all the other pieces.

And Ornak (Utgar's flag bearer) is definitely my favorite, not because I use orcs, but because I use a lot of Utgar heroes and being able to move two of them on the same turn is pretty awesome. Plus, he only costs 100pts unlike the others.

[4525paintball]

Great thread idea, i have beed debating the same question. I think utgar though, because the flagbearer bonds with utgar heroes, and let me tell you, there are allot of utgar heroes. But, vydar does have his advantages, because he is ranged and ooberly powers up you ranged vydar units.

[markwars]

Nice necromance. It reminded me of just how yummy that day was last year when this post was possible. The first time we got to see the fabled Flagbearers. It was awesome. I can't wait for similar feelings at GenCon this year. :D

[Jandars_Hope]

Nice necromance. It reminded me of just how yummy that day was last year when this post was possible. The first time we got to see the fabled Flagbearers. It was awesome. I can't wait for similar feelings at GenCon this year. :D
:word:
Plus this gives people the chance to give their opinions on what they think of the flagbearers after having them for over half a year.
Personally i said Laglor was my favourite at first (based on it's sculp probably) but now i've used all the flagbearers for many months i can say that Gilbert is my favourite and probably most used.

[Chimpy]

I think it is pretty funny that Gilbert was the lowest in the polls. If you did the same poll today I am sure you would find quite the opposite results.

[johnny139]

I said Ullar back then!

And now, being that I only have Ullar and Einar (who, oddly enough were my top two) I can honestly say... Ullar is still my favorite. Weird.

[GForce3062]

Even though I think Hatamoto Taro's sculpt is the coolest, Sir Gilbert seems the most affective in my opinion. He solves the Knights, Sentinals, and AE problem of movement. Plus you can get that extra attack die. And with decent stats, he can do damage of his own. And with 6 life, he can last long too.

[Jandars_Hope]

Even though I think Hatamoto Taro's sculpt is the coolest, Sir Gilbert seems the most affective in my opinion. He solves the Knights, Sentinals, and AE problem of movement. Plus you can get that extra attack die. And with decent stats, he can do damage of his own. And with 6 life, he can last long too.
Awesome Summary for the best Flagbearer!

[GForce3062]

Even though I think Hatamoto Taro's sculpt is the coolest, Sir Gilbert seems the most affective in my opinion. He solves the Knights, Sentinals, and AE problem of movement. Plus you can get that extra attack die. And with decent stats, he can do damage of his own. And with 6 life, he can last long too.
Awesome Summary for the best Flagbearer!

And it's short and to the point. :P

[Browncoat]

I'm going with the assumption that the game designers had typical "standard bearer" roles in mind when these figures were created. Keeping that in mind, the flag bearers should then provide some sort of boost, or rallying point, for all the units that serve under their flag.

Utgar
Being the largest army, and one of bad guys, Utgar's bearer was chosen to be an orc. I still to this day don't understand why the Marro were put with the new master set, when it should CLEARLY have been orcs, but that's another story. Ornak provides an attack boost to orcs, which falls under Utgar's theme of being an attack based army. Ornak also gives even more bonding to the best bonding army in the game.

Utgar's flag bearer is my choice for the best. Duh. Who else would I choose? He's an orc.

Vydar
Don't like Laglor much because he's a monkey. He should've been a soulborg in my opinion. He boosts Vydar's best stat, range, and rightfully so. I like this flag bearer's stats, but the sculpt makes me not want to play him at all.

Ullar
Giving the treehuggers a chance to regain life and extra movement helps those areas that Ullar figures usually lack in. The only problem is, it's still not enough. Ullar has the most lacking figures in my opinion, which is why they don't see much tournament action. The flag bearer is no exception.

Jandar
The movement boost was a nice touch to the slow moving army, but again, the boost doesn't seem to be enough to warrent having this figure included in your army. Cool sculpt though.

Einar
Hatamoto Taro is an awesome sculpt, like most other Einar figures. His boost aids samurai the most, which makes them that much more deadly with counter strike. Great figure, great stats...but he's expensive, and doesn't stand well on his own.

[Heroic Monkey]

Don't like Laglor much because he's a monkey.

:cry:

My favorite Flagbearer, in terms of sculpt and gameplay, is Laglor (sorry for my unoriginality :oops:). Gilbert comes in at a very close second. Ornak will be the next and last Flagbearer I get. Some of the combos you can do with him seem very fun, such as the Brunak and Kee-Mo-Shi "slingshot."

[Malechi]

Oh, the Ghost of Threads Past is here ...
http://www.nopuppymills.com/forum/images/smilies/spook.gif

[NecroBlade]

I still to this day don't understand why the Marro were put with the new master set, when it should CLEARLY have been orcs, but that's another story.Yes, clearly. :roll: You're getting as bad as DEATHWALKER.

[Malechi]

I still to this day don't understand why the Marro were put with the new master set, when it should CLEARLY have been orcs, but that's another story.Yes, clearly. :roll: You're getting as bad as DEATHWALKER.... And about as logical as Jason. :? Clear as mud your logic is!

[Browncoat]

I still to this day don't understand why the Marro were put with the new master set, when it should CLEARLY have been orcs, but that's another story.Yes, clearly. :roll: You're getting as bad as DEATHWALKER.... And about as logical as Jason. :? Clear as mud your logic is!

Flawed logic? Getting as bad as Deathwalker? I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, but let's look at the facts:

1) RotV Master set was released with Grimnak (Orc Leader) and Ne-Gok-Sa (Marro Warlord), and the Marro Warriors.

2) Wave 1 brought the Blade and Arrow Gruts, the backbone of the orc army. The hero pack introduced Tornak. No Marro units were released. Already the game designers appear to be showing devotion to the orcs.

3) Su-Bak-Na (another Hivelord) came out in the first large expansion pack, Orm's Return. No orcs were released in this expansion. As a side note, no orcs or Marro would be released in any future large expansion pack to date.

4) Wave 2 introduced the Marro Drones, Me-Burq-Sa, and the Swog Rider. In case you're keeping score up to this point, it's: Orcs - 5, Marro - 5.

5) Wave 3 brought the Marrden Hounds. While not specifically Marro, they still count towards that army. No orcs were introduced.

6) Waves 4 and 5 did not introduce any figures for either faction, orc or Marro. Somewhere around this time, Nerak the Glacian Swog Rider is also introduced as a Gen Con exclusive.

7) Wave 6 brings us the Heavy Gruts and Kee-Mo-Shi. Ornak, Utgar's flag bearer is also an orc. Orcs - 8, Marro - 7.

There are more orcs available, and the orc army is a more well-rounded one than the Marro. In addition, because Utgar's flag bearer is an orc, it would've made sense to have the orcs be the backbone of Utgar's army. Instead, the Marro were devoted to an entirely new master set.

[arp12]

You forgot the Marro Warriors.

[gibberish_47]

Maybe the Marro were added because the orc army was, oh I don't know, already well-rounded? :wink:

I'm also curious as to why you don't find Gilbert to be good. He works extremely well leading KoW, giving extra move. Throw in some Minute Men and you can move and attack with Gilbert, move four Minute Men, and then move and attack with four KoW, all in the same turn. You also didn't mention his attack aura, and better staying power than Finn.

[Browncoat]

You forgot the Marro Warriors.

Yep, you're right...I did. Fixed that post. My bad!
:wink:

Maybe the Marro were added because the orc army was, oh I don't know, already well-rounded? Wink

I'm also curious as to why you don't find Gilbert to be good. He works extremely well leading KoW, giving extra move. Throw in some Minute Men and you can move and attack with Gilbert, move four Minute Men, and then move and attack with four KoW, all in the same turn. You also didn't mention his attack aura, and better staying power than Finn.

It's not that I don't find Gilbert to be good. He boosts those units' movement, which is what they need. He's not good for me because I don't typically play Jandar units. The few times I have, it just seems like such an arduous task to use Gilbert.

[Larmo]

I voted Laglor, how could I not vote for the primadon? Plus, he has rapid fire, which is ok, but range enhancement is fantastic. 9 range krav anyone?

[Bloody the Marro Stinger]

I still to this day don't understand why the Marro were put with the new master set, when it should CLEARLY have been orcs, but that's another story.Yes, clearly. :roll: You're getting as bad as DEATHWALKER.... And about as logical as Jason. :? Clear as mud your logic is!

Flawed logic? Getting as bad as Deathwalker? I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, but let's look at the facts:

1) RotV Master set was released with Grimnak (Orc Leader) and Ne-Gok-Sa (Marro Warlord), and the Marro Warriors.

2) Wave 1 brought the Blade and Arrow Gruts, the backbone of the orc army. The hero pack introduced Tornak. No Marro units were released. Already the game designers appear to be showing devotion to the orcs.

3) Su-Bak-Na (another Hivelord) came out in the first large expansion pack, Orm's Return. No orcs were released in this expansion. As a side note, no orcs or Marro would be released in any future large expansion pack to date.

4) Wave 2 introduced the Marro Drones, Me-Burq-Sa, and the Swog Rider. In case you're keeping score up to this point, it's: Orcs - 5, Marro - 5.

5) Wave 3 brought the Marrden Hounds. While not specifically Marro, they still count towards that army. No orcs were introduced.

6) Waves 4 and 5 did not introduce any figures for either faction, orc or Marro. Somewhere around this time, Nerak the Glacian Swog Rider is also introduced as a Gen Con exclusive.

7) Wave 6 brings us the Heavy Gruts and Kee-Mo-Shi. Ornak, Utgar's flag bearer is also an orc. Orcs - 8, Marro - 7.

There are more orcs available, and the orc army is a more well-rounded one than the Marro. In addition, because Utgar's flag bearer is an orc, it would've made sense to have the orcs be the backbone of Utgar's army. Instead, the Marro were devoted to an entirely new master set.
To counter, look who takes up 75% of the MS Box Art. A Marro Warrior.
In addition, for Wave 1, none of the packs except for the Orc Pack include an orc for the cover. Wave 2 has no orcs on it's covers and a Marro is on a pack cover, leading to Box/Pack Art Score Orc 1, Marro 2. The Large Hero Pack has Su-Bak-Na on the cover, and Wave 6 has both an Orc and Marro on the Pack Art, leading to an Orc - 2, Marro- 4 score for Pack/Box Art. Art counts less, sure, but it still counts for something, so combining the two scores we get an even amount for both Orcs and Marro. The Designers then went with the original choice (Orcs have been done a lot) and made the new Master Set Marro based.

[Darkomen57]

Laglor! (Vydar) How can you not love a monkey with a peg leg who looks crazy?

[King of the Marro]

I voted Hatamoto Toro, he has the best sculpt and abilities to me.

[rdhight]

Laglor is my top flagbearer by far. I'm not into the whole monkey thing, but Vydar is my favorite general, and I'm very happy that his flagbearer could take any of the others one-on-one. I use him by far the most.

I have Gilbert, too. He's fine. He's workmanlike. Similar to Swog Riders, he's next to essential in a few armies, but only a few. Yeah, it's nice that he makes the knights fast, but the ability to move up valuable ranged commons like Omnicrons or 4th Mass is no joke either.

One of my opponents owns Acolarh, and I've used him. He rewards careful planning and calculating. You have to manage your start zone right to use the Amulet, then time when to move Acolarh up to keep the Valkyrie dice save working for your front elves, then probably use him as a way-station for leapfrogging figures past him and deeper into enemy territory. He's quite weak even in an all-elf army, but I like his style: very painstaking, very methodical.

but you have to remember. You can have mulitples of the amazon chics and the archers. Now think about 3 sets of each of those. Now what do you have? Big can of whoopass that doesn't die, that's what. OH yea, What now? Boo yea beaoches. :P

I just played an army like that. Aubriens x3, Warriors of Ashra x3, Acolarh, and Guilty. I set Acolarh up as a WoA launcher to get a screen out there in a hurry. The WoA humiliated Krug as only they can; Guilty pulled off a hilarious theft (jumping on the healing glyph to waste it before Tor-Kul-Na could get it); and the Aubriens finally finished off TKN for victory. It's the best Acolarh army I've been able to come up with, although I expect Venoc Warlord and Marcu could probably contribute just as much toward victory as Accy and Guilty.

[southwest ninja]

vydar all the way baby!

[King Bravemore]

I do like the tattered look of utgar's flag- very orcish indeed

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

So, I decided while I was out tonight shopping, I'd swing by TRU and pick up a second set of whatever FBs they had available.
I got them all except Laglor. Nowhere in sight.


Anyway, I noticed something about the FB poses.
Two are facing to their left - the elf and the orc.
The two human FBs are facing to their right - Gilbert and Hatamoto.
Laglor is the only one facing straight ahead!

I found that interesting and shall now proceed to go post this trivial information in the 'signs you're a Heroscape Addict' thread.

[Eirikr]

Vydar for sure. I love the sculpt and the name is just to good.

Laglor = anagram of 'gorilla' minus an i (eye).

Was disapointed to discover I wasn't the first to notice this but it still makes me happy.

Plus who doesn't want more range when playing vydar?

[spiteofthedice]

I have to say Ornak:

Extra skulls for orcs within 2 spaces and a double turn once a round. That Red Flag of Fury is a serious ability when you've got heroes like Cyprien and Grimnak in your army.

Personally, I've never had much luck with Hatamoto, and everyone seems to have a lot of faith in him. Methinks I'm playing him wrong. :ponder:

[Therion]

Utgar. No contest.

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

Therion, welcome to the site! However, the last post in this thread was almost a year ago. When you're posting, it's important to look at the last post so you don't needlessly resurrect ancient threads.

You're already way higher in my esteem than most newbies though, since you're using all correct grammar!

[Svannim]

I love the Einar pose and sculpt. The rest seemed a bit dull.

[demonslayer101]

Vydar. it is awesome.His power is completely ridiculous.

[The Deadliest Warrior]

Laglor! Grunt!

[The Champion of Weston]

I like Jandar, really only because I use the knights all the time so he really helps with my army.

[Griffin]

Jandar all the way baby! Seriously, great stats, Human Champion, and Dispatch, this guy does it all and is an easy draft with the KoW.

[Mooseman]

Wow, people like to necro this thread :lol:

Ornac will always be my fav. He's not as good as Gilbert, but he's the first one I got and he has great thematic powers.

[GreyOwl]

Laglor, 'cause he's a freakin' Gorilla! ;)

[screwDriver]

I voted for Einar or Hatamoto Taro solely for sculpt.

[Lucky]

Ullar is one bad elf.

[Bloody Bogle]

Gonna go with Ullar, especially since the Vydar and Einar pics are gone, and I only own Ullar and Jandar