PPH (Poor Posting Habits)

[Bobbo]

Hey everyone,
I was wondering what are the top 5 posting habits that really annoy you. This isn't something intended to bash anyone, but really because I'm curious. Here are some examples:

1. Blattand mispelllins
2. :oops: Overused smilies :x :shock: :) :!:
3. Using the wrong there/their/they're
4. no punctuation capitalization or grammers
5. LOL/ROTFL/LMAO/BRB-isms.
6. Trolling (not the fishing kind)
7. Flaming :verymad:
8. Rabid monkey posting
9. Starting threads that already exist
10. Thread necromancy.
11. Prissy know-it-alls


I'm wondering what the top 5 (or 10) for the posters here are. If you can't think of 5, just put what you got!

[MacG]

I'd like to be a prissy knowitall, but I don't know what Thread Necromancy is. Is it bringing back old threads? Sometimes that's useful.

[boom]

Nothing really bothers me much expect blatant misspellings, and only then because it can sometimes be a headache to read.

[reapersaurus]

For me, it's not blatant misspellings that are a chore to read - it's subtle misspellings, where the typo affects the comprehension of the post/idea.

And overused smilies are a consideration, for the most part -I wouldn;t hold their use against someone, usually.

but this one's definately the worst for me:
9. Starting threads that already exist

Posts that are spam, and purposely digress the discussion are right behind it.
Posts that have little grammar, puncuation, or sentence structure (well, basically UD-at-his-worst) are bad, too. :poke:

[netherspirit]

For me, it's not blatant misspellings that are a chore to read - it's subtle misspellings, where the typo affects the comprehension of the post/idea.

And overused smilies are a consideration, for the most part -I wouldn;t hold their use against someone, usually.

but this one's definately the worst for me:
9. Starting threads that already exist

Posts that are spam, and purposely digress the discussion are right behind it.
Posts that have little grammar, puncuation, or sentence structure (well, basically UD-at-his-worst) are bad, too. :poke:

Ditto. Starting threads that already exists is really annoying. Right behind that is no capitalization or grammar. Post structure too, people that just type a whole big block of text with no breaks in it. Grr.

But mostly starting threads that already exist is the worst... :brickwall:

[Fallen Templar]

For me, it's not blatant misspellings that are a chore to read - it's subtle misspellings, where the typo affects the comprehension of the post/idea.

And overused smilies are a consideration, for the most part -I wouldn;t hold their use against someone, usually.

but this one's definately the worst for me:
9. Starting threads that already exist

Posts that are spam, and purposely digress the discussion are right behind it.
Posts that have little grammar, puncuation, or sentence structure (well, basically UD-at-his-worst) are bad, too. :poke:

Ditto. Starting threads that already exists is really annoying. Right behind that is no capitalization or grammar. Post structure too, people that just type a whole big block of text with no breaks in it. Grr.

But mostly starting threads that already exist is the worst... :brickwall:

This bothers me as well. I lost count on the search is your freind post in already created threads on HQ

[SyvarrisX]

I am not a big fan of Misspellings... I also do not like, lol, rofl. et cetera.

[Kahrma]

But mostly starting threads that already exist is the worst... :brickwall:

No suprise there!

For me, illegible/unreadable posts. Usually due to bad grammar, faulty sentence structure, hideous spelling, or a combination of all. It irritates the hell outta me when I have to slow down and/or re-read a post to understand it. I usually just skip or ignore such posts.

[netherspirit]

But mostly starting threads that already exist is the worst... :brickwall:

No suprise there!

I didn't imagine there would be :)

[SyvarrisX]

Yes, you did seem to have that habit on HQ. :wink:

[Bobbo]

I'd like to be a prissy knowitall, but I don't know what Thread Necromancy is. Is it bringing back old threads? Sometimes that's useful.

Yeah, thread necromancy is reviving long dead threads and bringing them back up for discussion. I personally don't think it is that big a deal, but it really bothers some people.

So far, it seems that subtle misspellings, starting threads that already exist, and derailing threads purposefully are some of the top contenders. With an honorable mention of posts that are hard to read.

I personally don't like the prissy know-it-alls. I don't mind the know-it-alls, but the prissy ones really start to get to me after awhile.

[cbs42]

My biggest posting pet peeve?


boo

[SyvarrisX]

I think boo was only on HQ. I haven't seen him here.

[ultradoug]

Hey everyone,
I was wondering what are the top 5 posting habits that really annoy you. This isn't something intended to bash anyone, but really because I'm curious. Here are some examples:

1. Blattand mispelllins
2. :oops: Overused smilies :x :shock: :) :!:
3. Using the wrong there/their/they're
4. no punctuation capitalization or grammers
5. LOL/ROTFL/LMAO/BRB-isms.
6. Trolling (not the fishing kind)
7. Flaming :verymad:
8. Rabid monkey posting
9. Starting threads that already exist
10. Thread necromancy.
11. Prissy know-it-alls


I'm wondering what the top 5 (or 10) for the posters here are. If you can't think of 5, just put what you got!

1 spooling iz over trated me does not care if u spool good or knogt.
2 :D :) :( :o :lol: :? 8) :x :oops: :cry: :wink: :roll: :twisted: :evil: :?: :!: :arrow: :arrow: :wink: :cry: 8) ^_^
3 their, their it will be ok, I pat you on the head they're going to be more stuff latter there's no nead to worry.
4 nopunctuationcapitalizationogrammers or spaces requred.
5 LOLZ DAz da funnyezyt bezt (HUGGLEZ!!!) yayyy LOLZz1111! ^_^ :D, heheh lmao brb, k bk! ja.!
6 this post sucks. you suck screw you all.
7 this post sucks you sucks screw you all.
8 LOOK HOW MENT y post i got omg! %I AM da pownser now! ^_^;
9 man I have to rember to make that post about PPH (Poor Posting Habits).
10 I totaly bring this dead topic back to live with my zombie necro powers.
11 I know more then you na na na na.

[ultradoug]

For me, it's not blatant misspellings that are a chore to read - it's subtle misspellings, where the typo affects the comprehension of the post/idea.

And overused smilies are a consideration, for the most part -I wouldn;t hold their use against someone, usually.

but this one's definately the worst for me:
9. Starting threads that already exist

Posts that are spam, and purposely digress the discussion are right behind it.
Posts that have little grammar, puncuation, or sentence structure (well, basically UD-at-his-worst) are bad, too. :poke:

Thats it.

*puts on Reaper hat*

"How dare you post about me! Your just trying to get ME upset! :o Well, thats what the button is for! You just can go ahead and not have to lission to me anymore, blah blah blah And oh yes, I have this new set I'm working on that NO ONE is looking at man, I put in ALL this time into something and you all just poop on me like I don't matter, well thats it I've had it, I'm leaving you will regret not lissioning to me, rember I said that those things would die and NOOOO no one belives me I'm always right, also 8thdoc your not sposta talk about me or even think about me anymore! I'll have to regreanerate you again! Ok thats it. I'm done. I hope your happy! :("

*Takes off reaper hat*

epic.

[DoesntCompute]

1. Blattand mispelllins
1. Using the wrong there/their/they're
1. no punctuation capitalization or grammers
1. LOL/ROTFL/LMAO/BRB-isms.
1. WRITING IN ALL CAPS

All of these make posts hard to read.

[Gambit]

wow, u guys must really hate me :banana:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Hey everyone,
I was wondering what are the top 5 posting habits that really annoy you. This isn't something intended to bash anyone, but really because I'm curious. Here are some examples:

1. Blattand mispelllins
2. :oops: Overused smilies :x :shock: :) :!:
3. Using the wrong there/their/they're
4. no punctuation capitalization or grammers
5. LOL/ROTFL/LMAO/BRB-isms.
6. Trolling (not the fishing kind)
7. Flaming :verymad:
8. Rabid monkey posting
9. Starting threads that already exist
10. Thread necromancy.
11. Prissy know-it-alls


I'm wondering what the top 5 (or 10) for the posters here are. If you can't think of 5, just put what you got!

Negative-toned threads.

Oh yeah, simians flinging their poo. :x










(one and the same?)

[TheRealQ]

Actually the one that irks me the most doesn't seem to be listed or at least it isn't presented in a way that I comprehend.

I can't stand the posters that are highly prolific yet say nothing. They post with quick jabs and never feel the need to expound their point. I don't mind it if it actually makes sense but that is usually not the case.

[Mr. Underhill]

idonthaveanyproblemswithpostingsatallbutiguessthatpoorgrammarandpunctu ationaresomethingofanannoyanceasfarasiamconcerned

wowthatwasdifficult!

mrunderhill

[Tiberius]

If I have trouble deciphering what the person is trying to say, I get a little frustrated. Other than that, the smileys or the acronyms really dont bother me unless I dont understand the meanings of the acronyms (which is more often than not).

[shakey_snake]

_eopl_
_a_
_nderstan_
_os_
_essage_
_itou_
_h_
_irs_
_n_
_as_
_etter_.

[Fallen Templar]

Reaper and Hero fights they can be annoying'

[Revdyer]

_eopl_
_a_
_nderstan_
_os_
_essage_
_itou_
_h_
_irs_
_n_
_as_
_etter_.

er, _ithou_ ""
or did I get it wrong?

[K/H_Addict]

_eopl_
_a_
_nderstan_
_os_
_essage_
_itou_
_h_
_irs_
_n_
_as_
_etter_.

People
can
understand
most
messages
witout
the
first
and
last
letters.





i dont like people who over use punctuation (IE: hey dude!!! whats up??????). 1 of each required mark will suffice.

I dont like 1 word posts (IE: "lol")

Flamers suck too.

i dont know what trolling is. what is trolling?


thread necromacy is okay in some situations, but it really depends.

[Havokscry]

Before people criticize, they should understand that some people that post here are not American. English is probably not their primary language, so punctuation, grammer, etc. may be difficult for them.

[shakey_snake]

Que dices?

[Miniature Geek]

I have bad spelling, but it isn't on purpose... is that going to be a problem?

[bunjee]

MG, your spelling is fine. People mean the threads where every other word is just poorly spelled consistently. We used to harass Turtleboy about this endlessly, but then again, he was only 14 at the time (he can drive now *shudder*). Ultradoug doesn't have that excuse and half the time it seems like he is doing it on purpose. :)

I also don't get why the spelling thing is such a problem. Firefox and Safari both have built in on the fly spell checkers. Safari has caught a few typos for me already. You can get a free spell check plugin for Internet Explorer. So the spelling thing is just lazy posting habits. That isn't an opinion, it is simple fact. :x

As for the poor spelling for non-english speakers, I certainly haven't seen many people bother dra(gon) about his spelling, partly because he has made it clear that he has limited english skills. I certainly couldn't participate in any non-english board as I have pretty much zero 2nd language skills.

K/H addict, Trolling is when people who have not had any part of a conversation drop in and post something that is purely inflammatory and without viable addition of information. When I see it, I tend to smack people for it.

I thought I'd posted in this thread but I bet it was one of those times when I just gave up and closed down my system because it was late and I was tired. Sigh.


My peeves:
Persistent double/triple or more posting. Sometimes it is appropriate to post a couple times to make clear you are addressing different posts, but when people have conversations with themselves in a thread it irks me. I'll combine 'em if I see 'em.

Pretty much all the things mentioned in the first post of this thread. I don't mind thread necromancy, as long as the thread is brought back with a relative discussion. Certainly better than duplicating a thread.

[Miniature Geek]

I also don't get why the spelling thing is such a problem. Firefox and Safari both have built in on the fly spell checkers. Safari has caught a few typos for me already. You can get a free spell check plugin for Internet Explorer. So the spelling thing is just lazy posting habits. That isn't an opinion, it is simple fact. :x

Is it just a basic addon for Firefox?

[shakey_snake]

Firefox and Safari both have built in on the fly spell checkers. Um. Firefox 2 isn't out yet.


s it just a basic addon for Firefox?
It's callled Spellbound. And It's not technecally 'inline' yet either. (but a dev version is)

[Miniature Geek]

Firefox and Safari both have built in on the fly spell checkers. Um. Firefox 2 isn't out yet.

Firefox 2?

[shakey_snake]

whats confusing?

[DarkSpade]

9. Starting threads that already exist
10. Thread necromancy.

So it ticks you off when people start new threads on old subjects AND when they bring back old subjects instead of starting a new thread? :wtf:

[Sagart]

I really debated as to whether I should post this or not. Obviously, I decided to. I pretty much ignore whatever bothers me in posts, which, of course, can sometimes be the entire post. If it’s too difficult to read for any reason, to tedious, to long, to boring, whatever, I just ignore it. What does bother me is when people correct my spelling. (Which, by the way, I don’t recall anyone doing here or on HQ.) I am rather severely dyslexic and have an acquired neurosis about people reading what I write. Here’s my beef, if you tell me that I’ve spelled a word wrong, that presumes that you understand what I’ve written. If you understand what I’ve written, how have I misspelled anything? Yes, yes, I understand the arguable virtues of a standard system. I use standard all the time. My left foot gets twitchy and my right hand grabs in the air if I use automatic. But, hay, if you’re going to try and take me somewhere and you do it in a reasonable comfortable and timely manner; then use whatever you like, standard, automatic, whatever. I played HeroScape at their house. I played HeroScape at thier house. I played HeroScape at there house. I played HeroScape at they’re house. We all know what each of these sentences mean, weather we want to admit it or not. So, if you understand what is being said, just let it go. (And ask politely if you actually don’t understand.)

What does it prophet a man if he gains all spelling and grammar and looses what could be an eternal friend?

[bunjee]

swapped letters I understand, I do it all the time, my worst problem is hitting the space bar too soon and then end up wit hwords like the previous two. The little red squiggle tells me there is a problem that I'm going to ignore for right now.

Other than that, I generally ignore spelling problems, until the post becomes difficult to read. When it comes to incorrectly used words (wear, where, their, there) I may let the person know via pm if they do it consistently. I hope that by letting them know it may help them with other communications.

If you mis-spell a word on a resume, you are likely to never see an interview. I'm not comparing these boards to a job interview, but I am of the opinion that regular attention to grammar and spelling helps prevent accidental slips.


Oh, and I forgot that Firefox requires a separate plugin also. Still, free plugins are available for both Firefox and IE

[ultradoug]

I really debated as to whether I should post this or not. Obviously, I decided to. I pretty much ignore whatever bothers me in posts, which, of course, can sometimes be the entire post. If it’s too difficult to read for any reason, to tedious, to long, to boring, whatever, I just ignore it. What does bother me is when people correct my spelling. (Which, by the way, I don’t recall anyone doing here or on HQ.) I am rather severely dyslexic and have an acquired neurosis about people reading what I write. Here’s my beef, if you tell me that I’ve spelled a word wrong, that presumes that you understand what I’ve written. If you understand what I’ve written, how have I misspelled anything? Yes, yes, I understand the arguable virtues of a standard system. I use standard all the time. My left foot gets twitchy and my right hand grabs in the air if I use automatic. But, hay, if you’re going to try and take me somewhere and you do it in a reasonable comfortable and timely manner; then use whatever you like, standard, automatic, whatever. I played HeroScape at their house. I played HeroScape at thier house. I played HeroScape at there house. I played HeroScape at they’re house. We all know what each of these sentences mean, weather we want to admit it or not. So, if you understand what is being said, just let it go. (And ask politely if you actually don’t understand.)

What does it prophet a man if he gains all spelling and grammar and looses what could be an eternal friend?

Did you ever know that your my hero...

[Revdyer]

My assumption is that people want their communications to be as effective as possible. If I post a message that uses correct spelling and grammar, then nothing in the writing distracts the reader from the best presentation I can make of my thoughts. What I write may or may not be effective, persuasive, or true; but, at least, what I write is read without the interruption that comes from poorly written, badly spelled, and ungrammatical sentences.

I am not offended by bad spelling or grammer per se. But the truth is that poorly written items do not communicate as smoothly or as well as do well written ones. If your desire is to be effective, you come closer to your own goal when your writing is not self-defeating. The choice is yours and mine.

When I'm writing my grocery list, it does not matter whether I spell "bananas" correctly or not. If I am writing to you, though, I don't want my thoughts diluted by you having to pause as you parse my words.

There are those, like ud, who seem to me to use "creative" spelling as a kind of comment, even protest. That has its own function and I evaluate it by the cleverness, not the typing.

Maybe I'm a bit old-fashioned about this, but it seems to me that clear and smooth language simply works better than awkward and poorly produced words.

(And, yes, that does mean that sometimes I have to go back and edit my poor typing, but I usually try to do that "cleaning up" when I catch my own mistakes, of which there are often plenty.)

[ultradoug]

There are those, like ud, who seem to me to use "creative" spelling as a kind of comment, even protest. That has its own function and I evaluate it by the cleverness, not the typing.

thanks? Perhaps I should write my spooling post to give my thoughts on this and not side track this topic, however, mine has always been an issue of that I just do not know how to spell serten words, correcting my spelling will not magicaly fix it, and although I do my best to spell correctly, even if and when I do put my words into a spell check (mostly I do not do this unless I am really writing an ultradoug presents, however not always...) basicly it does not help when the spell check does not know what I said and I just honsetly have no idea. Do I spend countless hours on making a post formated perfectly?

No way, no one does, if I spell wrong, oh well, if that meens people `respect` my posting less then to bad for them, its the same stance I take when someone will not speek to you because of what cloathing you have or what you look like.

Its who you are, perhpaps you could inprove it, I could go back to school and relearn how to spell somehow someday, but thats not going to happen anytime soon.

Although at some times my spelling a word funny is delebrate, other times its not. No where here did I try to mispell things but I know I have.

[Revdyer]

There is such a thing as "Freudian spelling" where the way you spell things gives a glimpse into how you think about them, too. That may be either intentional or unintentional. For instance, my daughter (grown woman) still sometimes spells "notice" as "knotice" because she had such a difficult time learning to spell "know" and "knowledge" with that silent "k."

[Sagart]

My assumption is ...

Rev., I really do agree with your overall point. But I do have to disagree on a couple of things.

The choice is yours and mine.

(Aren’t you a Presbyterian? Don’t you believe in dual predestination? Or do I have the wrong denomination?) One of my sisters is Down Syndrome; she doesn’t have the choice. I’m dyslexic, I kind ‘a have the choice and I kind ‘a don’t. It took me four hours to write my last post, using spell check, the thesaurus, dictionary, google (it’s sometimes easier for me to use google to spell-check), and general anxiety. And still, while there were five intentional misspellings or misuses of words, God knows how many unintentional ones there were, I don’t. But I did choose to do it. It was a Sunday night, not much else to do. In the general course of events, however, I could not possibly justify the use of that much time on a post. It’s a matter of priorities. Which brings me to the grocery list.

When I'm writing my grocery list, it does not matter whether I spell "bananas" correctly or not.

In the grand scheme of priorities in regards to written documentation where does a post to heroscapers.com fall; doctoral dissertation, letter of recommendation, inter-office memo, grocery list, doodles? Hum, let’s see. I do have to eat, so that grocery list is looking kind ‘a important. I don’t have to play HeroScape (I know I’m not speaking for everyone here) let alone post to heroscapers.com (I know I’m not speaking for everyone here). So it looks to me like, and I could be wrong in this, the priority of accuracy in spelling and grammar in a post to heroscapers.com falls somewhere between a grocery list and doodles. Again, I might be wrong in this.

Did you ever know that your my hero...

Stop, you’re embarrassing me. However …. as a unique hero my special ability would be to confound and irritate with my misspellings and grammatical errors. Roll a 20 die, if I roll a 15 or higher my opponent loses a turn because he is to busy correcting my spelling or grammar. On the down side, if I come across a glyph I have to roll a 20 sided die. If I roll 15 or less I can’t read it and can’t use it.

[Revdyer]

Saqart,

What you say is worth pondering.

The truth that people have differing abilities does not change the fact that we all make choices about our actions; limited choices, certainly, but choices nonetheless.

Very few modern Presbyterians believe in double predestination (the doctrine that God created some people to go to heaven and others were created to go to hell without any chance of salvation). I do not believe in that doctrine, nor do I really see its relevance to the current discussion.

Finally, my only point about the grocery list compared to a posting here is that I do not need to intrepret my own writing as to meaning or intention (usually, sometimes I have gone back and found that I cannot understand a sloppy note I may have written long in the past), but (and this is my main point) if I want to communicate effectively then I have a better chance of being effective if I use the standard and accepted structure of written language (English, usually, in this case) that my society affirms. I don't have to write that kind of language. (Poets, in fact, add a layer of meaning by twisting or transforming the norms. But poetry is slow reading, usually.) There is no law or rule about it. But if I want to be effective, if I want people to listen to what I have to say, if I desire to be persuasive, rather than simply disruptive or confusing or idiosyncratic, then I would do well to use standard English in my writing. That does take work and time, more for some people than for others, and a forum posting is not worth worrying over too much. But it is worth worry about some, or why bother to post at all?

[toddrew]

Saqart, not my intention to embarrass with this post, but I sincerely would like to know if posting on forums is therapeutic in any way for you. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not post a response here - or completely ignore this post and that will be that as far as I'm concerned :)

EDIT: spelling, believe it or not :)

[Sagart]

Saqart, not my intention to embarass with this post, but I sincerely would like to know if posting on forums is theraputic in any way for you. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not post a response here - or completely ignore this post and that will be that as far as I'm concerned :)

Not exactely sure what you mean, but no. No, it's not theraputic. Not to the best of my knowledge.

[cbs42]

9. Starting threads that already exist
10. Thread necromancy.

So it ticks you off when people start new threads on old subjects AND when they bring back old subjects instead of starting a new thread? :wtf:

Kind of reminds me of this:

http://hahacomix.com/web/archives/images/signs/Road/Stop-no_stopping.jpg

Police entrapment techniques at their best, eh ninthdoc?
:poke:

[reapersaurus]

9. Starting threads that already exist
10. Thread necromancy.

So it ticks you off when people start new threads on old subjects AND when they bring back old subjects instead of starting a new thread? :wtf:

Kind of reminds me of this:

http://hahacomix.com/web/archives/images/signs/Road/Stop-no_stopping.jpg

Police entrapment techniques at their best, eh ninthdoc?
:poke:Hey, even if noone else does,

_I_ appreciate that humor/political opinion, cbs. :rofl:

[Sagart]

Saqart,

What you say is worth pondering ...



Rev., I just meant the dual predestination thing as a kind of joke. I saw “the choice is yours and mine” and thought of dual predestination and remembered that you are a Presbyterian minister and it struck me as a little funny. I’m sorry I didn’t make that clear. I suppose I should have used one of those smiley faces, but I really just don’t like them. Good to hear that you don't buy into dual predestination. It always gave me the willies.

I want you to know that I think that I really do understand and appreciate your point. And I applaud it. Let's all try to be as clear as we possibly can in our postings. But I still want to stick to my guns. Sure there’s a lot of laziness out there, and there are some linguistic and grammatical revolutionaries out there as well (Up the LLA! Language Liberation Army), but there are some of us, perhaps an obscure minority, who struggle with expressing ourselves in a standard written format. And it can be a bit off putting if we think that we’ll be criticized for the way in which we write. Not what we say, but the way in which we write. We might not write at all. If you’re over-weight and some people make fun of you because of it, you have a tendency to avoid them. If you stutter and people make fun of you because of it, you have a tendency to avoid them. We have a great place here. I really like it here. I love coming here. Maybe this form just got a little too close to home, I don’t know. I just don’t want any of my people to be afraid to come here and be a part of our community. And, mind you, I don’t think that we’ve got a problem with this currently. It just gave me a bit of a chill when I saw the direction this form was taking and I thought I just aught to say something.

I hope I'm not offending anyone saying this. I just want us to stay as open and welcoming as we possobaly can.

[Sagart]

Saqart, not my intention to embarrass with this post, but I sincerely would like to know if posting on forums is therapeutic in any way for you. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not post a response here - or completely ignore this post and that will be that as far as I'm concerned :)

EDIT: spelling, believe it or not :)

I received your PM and I think I replied. Never did this before so I'm not sure it worked. Would you mind letting me know if you got my reply? Greatly appreciate it if you could.

[Agent Minivann]

I really agree with Rev. I know there are many circumstances where I turn a blind eye on spelling (cases like dyslexia, or some other "disability", or the many cases of non-English speakers here on this site). I think that a good starting point is to do what you have done in mentioning that you have dyslexia. I would be OK with you not being as vigilant as you have been. I think spelling really bugs me with the ones that I know should spell better. I can't count how many times I've had to read email memos from coworkers that purport to be great minds, and they neglect to even use a basic spellcheck.

Of course this reminds me of the guy I worked with that would be working for a long time on a simple email (no excuse for this guy) and he would periodically ask me how to spell words. After a month or so I asked him to use a spellchecker and he replies, "I did, but I didn't think it was right." I didn't know whether to feel flattered, scream at him for wasting my time on elementary words, or just laugh.

Note: I put disability in quotes because in this day and age I feel there are few that are true disabilities. Everyone has some quirk that makes something hard for them, but some people use those as excuses that limit their potential. I don't mean to imply that this is the case with you Sagart. I hope you can make the most of the strengths you have and be blessed to meet understanding people along the way.

[Revdyer]

Rev., I just meant the dual predestination thing as a kind of joke. I saw “the choice is yours and mine” and thought of dual predestination and remembered that you are a Presbyterian minister and it struck me as a little funny. I’m sorry I didn’t make that clear. I suppose I should have used one of those smiley faces, but I really just don’t like them. Good to hear that you don't buy into dual predestination. It always gave me the willies.
I hope I'm not offending anyone saying this. I just want us to stay as open and welcoming as we possobaly can.

Double predestination gives me the willies too, Sagart.

More importantly, I don't think anyone will criticize if someone is doing the best they can to be clear in their communications. I certainly won't. But I will still think it sad when someone is lazy and sloppy needlessly and then complains that no one takes him or her seriously.

Obviously, I am not a transformational grammarian. But I will try to follow my own advice and be less picky.

[bunjee]

http://spellbound.sourceforge.net/

spell check for firefox

[ultradoug]

9. Starting threads that already exist
10. Thread necromancy.

So it ticks you off when people start new threads on old subjects AND when they bring back old subjects instead of starting a new thread? :wtf:

Kind of reminds me of this:

http://hahacomix.com/web/archives/images/signs/Road/Stop-no_stopping.jpg

Police entrapment techniques at their best, eh ninthdoc?
:poke:Hey, even if noone else does,

_I_ appreciate that humor/political opinion, cbs. :rofl:

Reaper you newb! You can under line I with the underlined u on the top of the post box deal ;)

Sagart you nead an avi so I can make you some weird spelling card.
but your religion debate made my head hurt so -2 points for that.

Should I have called Reaper a newbie? I think he's going to attack me now? Should I be afraid? I'm going to get in troulbe for this right?

oh well, I'll just hit submit.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[shakey_snake]

Firefox and Safari both have built in on the fly spell checkers. Um. Firefox 2 isn't out yet.


s it just a basic addon for Firefox?
It's callled Spellbound. And It's not technecally 'inline' yet either. (but a dev version is)http://spellbound.sourceforge.net/

spell check for firefox
Um, so I just got the latest Firefox 2 alpha nightly because its turning Beta fairly soon, and the in line spell checker is freaking awesome.

[netherspirit]

And the problem with Spellbound it that it doesn't work with the latest Firefox. The Google toolbar for FF has spellcheck on it.

[jbbnbsmith]

For me, I tend to take more or less care in my spelling depending on the audience and the subject matter. Back in the days of the big religion debates, I would take great care in proof reading my posts, because the subject matter was serious, I wanted to be clearly understood, and I wanted to be taken seriously. On the other hand, when having casual conversations I'm not as concerned. I may give my post a quick read-through, but I'm not overly concerned if a typo or two is missed.

As for spell check, I still tend to just look things up in the dictionary if I'm not sure about the spelling. Although I certainly take advantage of automatic spell check when using Word and other programs, I have found that they do not help me correct my spelling, just fix my errors. In other words, if I just let spell check fix a word that I do not know how to spell, I will probably spell the word wrong the next time too. But if I take the time to look up a word in the dictionary, somehow that extra effort helps me to learn how to spell the word properly forever (or at least for a while).

Then there are some words that I just can't seem to get straight in my head; necessary (two c's or two s's or both?!) and daily (I always want to put an e in there) are just a few examples.

So for me, spelling errors and typos aren't a big deal in a setting like this, although excessive quantities can be annoying. But in the business or academic setting they drive me nuts.

As for pet peeves, two spring to mind:

Writing "He should of been more careful" instead of "He should have been more careful."

Writing "Try and spell correctly" instead of "Try to spell correctly"

Both of those give me chills almost as bad as double predestination :wink:

Now I'll hit submit and then see how many typos I've included in my post!

[jbbnbsmith]

What does it prophet a man if he gains all spelling and grammar and looses what could be an eternal friend?

Did you ever know that your my hero...
You mean "you're my hero..." :twisted:

[toddrew]

As for spell check, I still tend to just look things up in the dictionary if I'm not sure about the spelling. Although I certainly take advantage of automatic spell check when using Word and other programs, I have found that they do not help me correct my spelling, just fix my errors. In other words, if I just let spell check fix a word that I do not know how to spell, I will probably spell the word wrong the next time too. But if I take the time to look up a word in the dictionary, somehow that extra effort helps me to learn how to spell the word properly forever (or at least for a while).

Long live m-w.com! :)

[Agent Minivann]

I thought about starting a new thread, but the grammar/spelling talk makes this timely.

Anyone been to http://engrish.com ?

[reapersaurus]

I amend my initial post to include a major annoying posting habit:

The creation of a thread solely to say "Look what I just got!" and proceed with a entirely self-serving post mentioning that they got some HS product.

WHO CARES! :evil:

[end gripe]

[bunjee]

I amend my initial post to include a major annoying posting habit:

The creation of a thread solely to say "Look what I just got!" and proceed with a entirely self-serving post mentioning that they got some HS product.

WHO CARES! :evil:

[end gripe]
Ah, perhaps you'll give allowance for first product found of that wave?

I remember with fondness my "Orm's Return - Gloat - I bring you love!!!" thread from .net when I got paws on Orm's first.

[reapersaurus]

I amend my initial post to include a major annoying posting habit:

The creation of a thread solely to say "Look what I just got!" and proceed with a entirely self-serving post mentioning that they got some HS product.

WHO CARES! :evil:

[end gripe]
Ah, perhaps you'll give allowance for first product found of that wave?

I remember with fondness my "Orm's Return - Gloat - I bring you love!!!" thread from .net when I got paws on Orm's first.a first-sighting post wouldn't be entirely self-serving, would it? ;)
That'd be an important piece of information that was being given to the community. Especially if it had copious pictures about the product, and vital observations like your legendary thread did. :) :thumbsup:

And add another gripe to the list, that I'm sure you'll agree with after seeing you post in the Treant Woodlord thread:

Posters who vote No on a custom, without bothering to share their feedback with the designer and community so they could know what someone may not have seen likeable in their efforts. :headshake:

And I'll add one more pet peeve:
People who vote on custom units who don't follow custom units enough to know whether a custom is remotely well done. Each person that votes without an understanding of point costs, and balanced abilities, is equal to someone who spends a lot of effort thinking about the custom objectively.

In other words, don't just do a "click-by" (i.e. clicking on a poll to affect the results unless you're going to spend time and knowledge voting intelligently.)

[jcb231]

One of my pet peeves is younger kids that have no knowledge of how to post in complete (or reasonably complete) sentences. This isn't IM. This isn't text messaging. It's a forum. Take a minute to think through what you want to say...no one's rushing you.

Some kids have even put comments like "I'm in a rush" in their post, or said something, and then two lines later said "oops I see what you mean never mind" or something else that totally negates their whole post. Why post at all then? We don't need to hear your inner monologue of idiocy.

Also, kids, when you post, provide all the info you're trying to get across as clearly as you can. If you want us to go to another website, post a link. If you want to tell us about another game, or direct us to an article, book, tv show, etc...post the full name of that item and some info on where to find it. In other words, take the bare minimum effort needed to be polite and helpful.

[Codeman]

Poor Spelling! I saw a billboard last month that started using internet chat shorthand. Home Depot or Menards one of the building stores... anyway they had a big "G8 " on the billboard! Why? I don't know who the billboard was suppose to be targeting but it looks like a bad move to me. This texting is spilling out into our life outside of the internet our Kids are not going to know any English soon.

[Revdyer]

our Kids are not going to know any English soon.

Too late.

[ultradoug]

One of my pet peeves is younger kids that have no knowledge of how to post in complete (or reasonably complete) sentences. This isn't IM.

I'm not I'm? I'm me. IM ME, people on instant messange always say IM me, but I'm me, not you is me, me is me, when you read me, I want you to read me as if its you reading me, so the word me is you, and you is me, I'm you? Yes.

[Revdyer]

See. :lol:

[Revdyer]

Sorry for the double post (but they are, at least, a night apart).

One of my pet peeves is the person who says, in effect, "Well, if you had read all of my posts over the past six months, then you would understand where I'm coming from!

Please don't expect me to go hunting through every thread ever posted in to get a feel for someone's personality or posting style. I'm just not likely to do that in order to understand their point or their plight.

[Codeman]

our Kids are not going to know any English soon.

Too late.

I don't think it is too late... but we seem to be losing ground, and I was just surpised to see G8 out on a public ad.... again why? How many drivers even understood it... I figured out it meant "Great" but I'm sure most of the motorist that read the bill board knew what it meant!

If I have anything spelled wrong above... I apoligize

[Revdyer]

Oh, I don't think it's too late, either. But as a retired English prof., my experience tells me that we've slipped pretty far into the slough of despond.

[Gambit]

One of my pet peeves is younger kids that have no knowledge of how to post in complete (or reasonably complete) sentences. This isn't IM.

I'm not I'm? I'm me. IM ME, people on instant messange always say IM me, but I'm me, not you is me, me is me, when you read me, I want you to read me as if its you reading me, so the word me is you, and you is me, I'm you? Yes.

ahhhhhh! to complicated! http://www.uclan.de/pics/smilie/blowup.gif

[Sirdenrick]

I think that bad grammer is the worst. Sometimes I can't even figure out wht someone is trying to say. I really am interested in (most) posts, it would be really cool if I could read some of them.

[K/H_Addict]

I can't stand it when people shorten already short words such as "you" "are" and "be"