Nightwing's Custom Creations - Kilowog, Waverider

[Nightwing]

Here is my very first attempt at a Super Hero Card.

Firestorm (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Maliseth/Firestorm.jpg)

Kilowog (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Maliseth/Kilowog3.jpg)

Mister Miracle (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Maliseth/MrMiracle-1.jpg)

Nightwing (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Maliseth/Nightwing2.jpg)

Waverider (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Maliseth/Waverider.jpg)

[hi1hi1hi1hi1]

It's good, I don't know much about Mister Miracle but it seems like an accurate representation of what he can do. One thing you should add though is the word "may" in the Mother Box ability. "After moving and instead of attacking, you may roll the 20-sided die..." Otherwise without the "may" you would have to roll everytime instead of attacking, so you could never make a normal attack. :D

[Nightwing]

It's good, I don't know much about Mister Miracle but it seems like an accurate representation of what he can do. One thing you should add though is the word "may" in the Mother Box ability. "After moving and instead of attacking, you may roll the 20-sided die..." Otherwise without the "may" you would have to roll everytime instead of attacking, so you could never make a normal attack. :D

Ah, ok....I didn't even think of anything like that.

Thanks

[Jonathan]

I think he's cool! 200 seems like it might be good, might not - it's hard to tell with such a versatile character who is so randomly versatile.

How does he test out?

[Nightwing]

I think he's cool! 200 seems like it might be good, might not - it's hard to tell with such a versatile character who is so randomly versatile.

How does he test out?

I'll let you know, I just created him yesterday so I haven't had a chance to use him.

[Nightwing]

Made some changes to Mister Miracle.

[IAmBatman]

Re: Nightwing

You might want to consider looking at the stickied TNT Index and clicking on the link for my TNT'd Batman. The wording for Batline works much better on that card, IMO. I just haven't updated it on my other cards yet (for many reasons).
For Razor Wing Special Attack, I would change that last line to just "You may use Nightwing's Razor Wing Special Attack the same or different targets."
I guess it's a flavor call, but Nightwing is also a trained martial artist, so I guess I don't see much point in calling it Acrobatic Counterstrike instead of just Counterstrike since it's the same power. If you were going to go with Acrobatic Counterstrike, I'd like to see something that involves movement a bit more, kind of like the Ninjas of the Northern Wind Disappear power combined with counterstrike.
Born Leader sounds like a cool power.
Left Box stuff looks good. Not sure about his price - he might be a bit undercosted, but price is the hardest part of all of this (other threads should show how widespread that thought is).
You also need to give him a hitzone picture on the right side there. I recommend going to www.heroclix.com and finding the figure gallery for the DC clix figures to get a photo of the Nightwing figure you can doctor. The Heroclix figure of Nightwing is also a good one to get for actual play purposes.

[Nightwing]

Re: Nightwing

You might want to consider looking at the stickied TNT Index and clicking on the link for my TNT'd Batman. The wording for Batline works much better on that card, IMO. I just haven't updated it on my other cards yet (for many reasons).
For Razor Wing Special Attack, I would change that last line to just "You may use Nightwing's Razor Wing Special Attack the same or different targets."
I guess it's a flavor call, but Nightwing is also a trained martial artist, so I guess I don't see much point in calling it Acrobatic Counterstrike instead of just Counterstrike since it's the same power. If you were going to go with Acrobatic Counterstrike, I'd like to see something that involves movement a bit more, kind of like the Ninjas of the Northern Wind Disappear power combined with counterstrike.
Born Leader sounds like a cool power.
Left Box stuff looks good. Not sure about his price - he might be a bit undercosted, but price is the hardest part of all of this (other threads should show how widespread that thought is).
You also need to give him a hitzone picture on the right side there. I recommend going to www.heroclix.com and finding the figure gallery for the DC clix figures to get a photo of the Nightwing figure you can doctor. The Heroclix figure of Nightwing is also a good one to get for actual play purposes.

Ok, thanks for the input. I'll make those changes tomorrow when I get to work.. :-P

[allskulls]

Welcome aboard, Nightwing!

IAmBatman and Nightwing sharing cards...It's so cute. :D

[Nightwing]

Welcome aboard, Nightwing!

IAmBatman and Nightwing sharing cards...It's so cute. :D

Thanks, glad to be here.

Hopefully any cards I make can live up to the standards of this forum and it's awesome designers.

[Nightwing]

Made the changes to Nightwing you suggested IAMBATMAN, only thing is I haven't got those hit location pictures quite down yet so it's still blank for the time being.

[Nightwing]

Added Firestorm!

I think I may have undercosted him?

[Nightwing]

Added Kilowog and Waverider.


Could I get some comments on my pricing? I know as of now there isn't an exact science to the pricing of customs but some feed back on whether mine are too much, too little or just right would help.

[Eclipse]

Added Kilowog and Waverider.

Thoughts on Kilowog:

Emerald Power Special Attack needs to be split out. There's no reason those three abilities shouldn't be listed separately on the card, especially since 2 and 3 aren't really Special Attacks. Commenting on them individually:

1. Fine. I don't know if Green Lantern attacks should really be up to the level of Silver Surfer's Power Cosmos, but there's nothing mechanically wrong here.

2. Enhanced Strength is essentially worthless. I can think of one scenario where it matters, but for the most part, if you're using a normal attack, you're using this ability.

3. Force Bubble is fine. Wording suggestion. The last line can simply be: "you cannot end this move adjacent to an enemy figure." Also, is this intended to ignore height? It seems like it should, but currently does not.

Emerald Defense - An Auto Shield is actually really powerful. Just so you're aware, it gives Kilowog the average of 8 defense.

Willpower - Alright. I think there's a better wording for it, but I can't think of it right now. One thing to note however, is that Green Lantern's generally aren't immune to mind control and in fact mind control abilities are known to disrupt their ability to use the ring.

Left Box:

Not bad, but it could definitely be better. This is a pretty standard Green Lantern template, and could probably use a bit of personalization. Kilowog's not a generic Lantern. At the very least, replace Protector with something like Drill Sergent, Instructor, or Trainer. Valiant works, but there's probably something more fun here as well.

Stats are certainly fine. I'd consider 6 life as he's sturdier than the average Human, but stats have to reflect their abilities as well.

All in all, my biggest complaint is simply that he's just "Generic Green Lantern". Why not spruce him up and give him something to make him stand out on the field. If you throw this guy in with the other 7200+ members... he'd be the same as 7200+ other characters. Why not give him something to reflect his unique style. Maybe something like "Move it, Poozers!" that allows you to take turns with a GL Recruit or something. After all, Hal is THE GL template. Every other Corps member essentially has to find a way to stand out from him.

[IAmBatman]

Move it Poozers could be like Sir Gilbert's Dispatch ability - give you a chance to move a certain number of spaces with other Green Lanterns before moving with Killowog.