Multiple Master Sets and Why?

[Necro]

So I'm very new to Heroscape, but I've played many a other strategy game. Heroscape seems to combine a bit of collectability and a lower cost than the Warhammer games, while being much more accessible.

However, what I'm wondering is what is the purpose of having dozens of Master Sets? I currently have 2 SotM and 1 RotV. Since there are few common armies in each of those, you're basically getting them just for the terrain, correct?

Just want to know if it would be beneficial to grab a $20 RotV (not Edition 1 ;) ). If I could sell of the characters on Ebay it would be an easier decision, but I'm debating if two Expansion Packs of armies/hero's wouldn't be a better investment....or trying to find another kind of expansion pack with diff. terrain.

Thanks for the advice for a new guy! (and sorry if this has been covered...I can't find a search function at all and I went a few pages back looking for something similar)

[Kahrma]

There are no common squads/heroes in the RotV master set, but it is the single largest set of HS terrain sold. Many here find that 1 MS worth of terrain is too little and wish to build bigger maps. A second or third RotV opens up tons of possibilities. Check out the Battlefields and Scenarios (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?cid=4) section under "Downloads" (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/) for plenty of examples.

Another reason for purchasing multipe RotV is for creating customs. Check out the custom terrain (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/viewforum.php?f=25&sid=35797a7d4ba8734b99d546555271d63c) and custom units (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/viewforum.php?f=14) threads for plenty of examples of what people have done with "extra" RotV figures and terrain. There's not much use for multiple unique squads and heroes, so people are more willing to disect and repaint these. Bases from extra master set figures can be used for one's own custom creations. Also, master sets are the only source (outside of e-bay) for certain tile configurations, such as 3-hex and 24-hex pieces for custom terrain.

The SotM master set DOES contain common squads. Also, it has fewer terrain tiles than the RotV master set. Although two sets of a common squad is workable, a lot of people (myself included) prefer to use quite a few more in their armies. Maps made with a single SotM can be quite cramped - so many here like to combine it with RotV or a second SotM.

[Rodriquez]

I would it up at least one or a few more
the terrain alone is worth it for that price man..

esp since ye get about half that in the Sotm set.


cheers
Rod

[champrjk]

I'd go for getting some other types of terrain packs before buying a third MS. Maybe the tundra set or the road to the forgotten forest? The lava pack is cool too but you don't get as much out of it for your money.

[Fatespuppet]

I believe most get multiples for the terrain. RotV at 20 bucks is almost a must buy if you are planning to be big into Scape. If you compare the fact that RotV comes with 4+ times as much terrain as the 'terrain' expansions you quickly see how nice it is to find a 20 dollar MS.

I picked up 2 more at the 20 dollar price point. I plan to keep them sealed just in case it goes out of print for an extended period and the price skyrockets.

[teekay]

However, what I'm wondering is what is the purpose of having dozens of Master Sets? ...you're basically getting them just for the terrain, correct?

Yup. Like Kahrma said, most of us here keep finding that you can always make the perfect map if you just had one more Master Set. (And repeat.)

If you ever browse the Maps thread and see some of the monsterous creations other Scapers have made, you'll see what I mean!

Welcome ot the boards.

[ej]

If you ever plan on running a tournament, grab more MSs. If you want to get some friends into the game, give them a MS. If you want to build the United States in hexes, buy more MSs. If you want to include Guam, buy a SotM.

[Pygon]

I finally ended up with 4 RotV's, plus some of the extra decorative expansions. Maps I see made with more than that generally take up more space than the table I have to work with (I can fit 39 staggered x 24 straight or 34 straight x 28 staggered).

I could go longer if I added to the length of the table, but in general I think very long maps are a bad idea because it forces the armies to travel too much.

By the way, a straight hex takes up about 1.75" inches. A staggered hex takes up 1.5".

[Taelord]

If I were you I would snag the MS at the low price. You can never have too much Terrain. You can on the other hand have to many figures to fit on the board and still have fun. Do you should buy the MS.

[Fuzzie Fuzz]

$20 for a RotV is a great deal. Buy it and make the figures into customs.

[Necro]

Ok...I got the MS. Was still sitting on the shelf in the KMart when I went back today to get it so... :).

Unfortunately, they have Wave 5 expansions as well, and I'd like to grab them, but I'm trying to only get expansions at ~$10 each. Another local store had Orm's Return...debating if I really want a pack of 5 uniques...that was regular price as well ($20)...so debating. :) They actually had two I believe in quite beat up condition.

[Pygon]

I avoid paying more than $10 for figure packs as well.

Raknar's Vision is worlds better than Orm's Return for 5 large heroes, if you have a choice between the two.

[ej]

I try not to pay more than $10 a pack, too, but lately I've broken that rule with Monks, Minions and a few other packs.

[tyguy94920]

If you ever plan on running a tournament, grab more MSs. If you want to get some friends into the game, give them a MS. If you want to build the United States in hexes, buy more MSs. If you want to include Guam, buy a SotM.

To funny



But I would say go for figures way before going to buy terrain. More diverse armies is way better than more diverse battlefields.


And samurai are AWAsome!!!

[kaemonawa]

you can't use my name without permission!!!!!! :x :x :x :x :x

[HS ~ KNT]

God, I wish I could fin deals like that.

I think at about 10 RotV I'll be good... as I love to build, but am not such a big player.

I'm only 8 master sets away. :lol:

Heh heh, heh heh, heh....

[STAROCEAN980]

God, I wish I could fin deals like that.

I think at about 10 RotV I'll be good... as I love to build, but am not such a big player.

I'm only 8 master sets away. :lol:

Heh heh, heh heh, heh....
Same here. But I'm at 7. :)

[Ugly-Caco]

Chicano has only 2 MSs (I think) and his maps are big enough to kick some arse. But if you want 10...why not. :)

[Taelord]

Chicano has only 2 MSs (I think) and his maps are big enough to kick some arse. But if you want 10...why not. :)

You shouldn't buy 10. You should buy 15!

[HS ~ KNT]

Oh, yeah, I've got enough to make some freaking huge maps (can't walk around my room right now...) But I've been aiming to make some I've seen around that use about ten sets, so I figure... why not aim high if I'm going to aim at all?

[Fatespuppet]

I have 3 MSs right now and they take up so much room. I'm considering investing in a fold out table so that I have more space to build a cool map. My dining room table just wasn't designed for gaming no matter how much I want it to be.

I've been lucky enough to find the $20 RotVs that are floating around as well as the $12 Marvel ones. Unfortunately I always seem to be 1 MS away from finishing whatever map I'm building. Then I take it apart and start over after finding another deal, only to build something new that needs just one more.

It's a neverending circle.

[southwest ninja]

ive got 7 RotV open right now and that fits my needs pretty good. may not use it all but i use alot of one type of hex or another and it helps alot to have a lot more large size tiles instead of contructing them out of small pieces. normally i would say get more guys but when its at this price snatch those puppies up!

[Dr. Weirdscaper]

Chicano has only 2 MSs (I think) and his maps are big enough to kick some arse. But if you want 10...why not. :)

You shouldn't buy 10. You should buy 15!

Yes, 15 is good.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb57/DRWEIRDSCAPER/File00004.jpg

[markwars]

Terrain, terrain, and more terrain.

[champrjk]

I wish I had enough room in my house for a map like that.

[Necro]

...holy...crap.

And I now have 2 RotV and 2 SotM sets....and a complete Wave 6...

(seriously...I haven't even played a game yet and I'm addicted to all the happy little figures...this is exactly why I stayed the heck away from Warhammer...)

Only problem I forsee is that there are NO (and I mean NO) terrain expansions or larger expansions anywhere around here. I may try to get the one from TRU I mentioned above...but not really sure...

[iceman3317]

the master set RotV has more terrain to build with.If you only have 1 rotv then you ant going to have the terrain to make 8 player maps.

Look at some of the maps in the map fourmos and see what i mean

[champrjk]

I find that three MS is enough for eight players if you keep the army points limited to 400. Other wise you start right in each others faces.

[Necro]

...see my other post (http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=15259) on getting 'busted' after getting this. :)

Anyway, I figure I'd ask here before starting another thread. What can one expect to find in stores now and what would be 'rare rare find'. I want to know what to expect to look for/find in Target/Walmart/etc in regards to waves and expansions...and what is a 'rare find'.

[Fatespuppet]

...see my other post (http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=15259) on getting 'busted' after getting this. :)

Anyway, I figure I'd ask here before starting another thread. What can one expect to find in stores now and what would be 'rare rare find'. I want to know what to expect to look for/find in Target/Walmart/etc in regards to waves and expansions...and what is a 'rare find'. [/url]

I think the rarity goes by different areas, but any of the 1st edition RotV sets with sparkly water and/or red and blue dice are pretty hot. There is a thread someplace that has how to tell from the box.

The most wanted is a RotV set with the EOV figures. This is a Walmart exclusive from a few years back, but they pop up in stores every once in a while. These EOV figures can sell for 80 bucks on ebay.

I believe anything from Wave 1 through 3 is pretty sought after as well. These are currently hard to come by. Also, the Road to the Forgotten Forest terrain expansion is pretty rare and very useful. All the other figures/sets seem to be relatively easy to find, especially online.

[keglo]

...see my other post (http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=15259) on getting 'busted' after getting this. :)

Anyway, I figure I'd ask here before starting another thread. What can one expect to find in stores now and what would be 'rare rare find'. I want to know what to expect to look for/find in Target/Walmart/etc in regards to waves and expansions...and what is a 'rare find'. [/url]

Well as to what you can expect to find I can only tell you what I'm experiencing in my area. We have around 5 or 6 Wal-mart Super Centers and None of them have any Master Sets of any kind. And the only boosters I can find is Some of Wave 5 at one Wal-Mart. As for Target, K-Mart, and TRU, it's pretty much the same story. There is one K-Mart here that Scapers apparently haven't discovered yet because they still have about 5 master sets marked $30 but selling for $20. They have been there for over a week. I bought one of them last night. If I had the money I would get them all. As to what would be a good find, I would say any Heroscape at this point would be a good find.

[Granite-M]

Regarding the process of going out and getting additional master sets / expansions:

Do people prefer to buy expansions in-store, or to buy them online? As I see it, there are trade-offs. I like buying in-store because I get to have it NOW, it costs a little less, and because of the hunter-gatherer instincts it satisfies.

On the other hand, sometimes it's just impossible to find that one pack you want in a store, so you've got to get online.

But then I feel like the guy who buys food at the towns in Oregon Trail, rather than blowing away all the bison, bears, and rabbits.

[Necro]

Regarding the process of going out and getting additional master sets / expansions:

Do people prefer to buy expansions in-store, or to buy them online? As I see it, there are trade-offs. I like buying in-store because I get to have it NOW, it costs a little less, and because of the hunter-gatherer instincts it satisfies.

On the other hand, sometimes it's just impossible to find that one pack you want in a store, so you've got to get online.

But then I feel like the guy who buys food at the towns in Oregon Trail, rather than blowing away all the bison, bears, and rabbits.

I always just chose [C]annibalize and ate some of the people in my wagon. Saved time AND money!

[Codeman]

Multiple Master Sets and Why?
Of course :? I don't understand the question :wink:

[Pygon]

Do people prefer to buy expansions in-store, or to buy them online?

When I went on my post Xmas HeroScape buying binge, I purchased singular small expansions as stores had them for decent prices ($10 or lower). After looking at the Power Rankings thread, it's clear that many of them probably won't get a lot of use. Maybe they'll be used initially as we want to try out the figures, but later, we'll just want to good ones. So online will be my next option should I want to expand my collection.

[Necro]

Do people prefer to buy expansions in-store, or to buy them online?

When I went on my post Xmas HeroScape buying binge, I purchased singular small expansions as stores had them for decent prices ($10 or lower). After looking at the Power Rankings thread, it's clear that many of them probably won't get a lot of use. Maybe they'll be used initially as we want to try out the figures, but later, we'll just want to good ones. So online will be my next option should I want to expand my collection.

Could you point out that thread? Would like to check it out.

[Jer]

Regarding the process of going out and getting additional master sets / expansions:

Do people prefer to buy expansions in-store, or to buy them online? As I see it, there are trade-offs. I like buying in-store because I get to have it NOW, it costs a little less, and because of the hunter-gatherer instincts it satisfies.


Also when you find them in-store the expansions are often cheaper. The small ones are around $10 when they're in stock at Target with no shipping and handling charges. So my preference is usually to buy them in the store.

But around here the small expansions seem to sell out really, really fast - even at the local Kroger where they charge $13.50 for the small expansions. And the restocking time in the big box stores is sloooow. So I can definitely see the benefits of the convenience of ordering on-line.

[rdhight]

Could you point out that thread? Would like to check it out.

The Official Unofficial Heroscape Power Rankings (http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=6171)