Deadeye Dan Fan Club

[bonafide]

Maybe it's the cool sniper rifle and all...I'm a big fan of the hawkeye.

I've had fairly good success with him. His 10% chance to spray your opponents grey matter is very nice. I had a really nice game decimitating my opponents Q9, and in another game his Nilfiem.

What say you?

[0rbital]

I've drafted him in every game I've played since I bought the pack a couple weeks ago. Pretty easy to use his special attack and pick off squad members too at range.

[feekonea]

I personally dont like him, if he has to stay in the same spot to fire, hes gunna be toast in a few rounds. I dont see how people could like him, unless he always comes up big in ur game withthe 20D.

[0rbital]

At height with Taelord he has 10 range with 3 attack dice. I've had good luck with him backed up by KMA at height.

[bonafide]

Well...yes, typically Deadeye is toast in close quarters/ranged combat. I typically put all my turns on him while in range of big value targets, and then take my chances. If I'm lucky enough, maybe 2 rounds - 3 turns each. Of course, that's a gambler's method!

I haven't utitlized his other special ability as of yet, hopefully I'll get the chance soon.

[aielman]

man I LOVE the enhanced rifle special - Minions and other high D and even the mighty Krav are easy pickings with it. Its to bad it only works on small and medium but stil... 50% kill is sweet.

[bonafide]

Nothing is sweeter than rolling 20 and putting a bullet in Q9's tin head.

Well...maybe puppies...but that's a big maybe.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I personally dont like him, if he has to stay in the same spot to fire, hes gunna be toast in a few rounds. I dont see how people could like him, unless he always comes up big in ur game withthe 20D.

He's okay to stay in one spot. 10 range affords him plenty space!


man I LOVE the enhanced rifle special - Minions and other high D and even the mighty Krav are easy pickings with it. Its to bad it only works on small and medium but stil... 50% kill is sweet.

Yes the Enhanced Rifle rocks. He's excellent against Sentinels, Minions, and the 'make-me-oh-so-nervous' EOV!

I have had no luck with the Sharpshooter yet.

[allanhowls]

A second-turn kill on Charos will make anyone a believer...

[Emperor of Time]

I haven't had the opportunity of using him yet (can't find the pack anywhere), but I am definitely looking forward to some of that sweeet sniper action

Kinda on a sidenote here about snipers, but I think the omnicrons' should have gotten actual rifles instead of pistol things. Do you guys agree?

[markwars]

I would love to see someone break down all four cowboys and discuss strategies for using each of them....(hint hint).

[netherspirit]

I would love to see someone break down all four cowboys and discuss strategies for using each of them....(hint hint).

That could make a good front page article (hint hint, ;);))

[markwars]

I think someone should supply us with two unit reviews each week for the front page.

[netherspirit]

I think someone should supply us with two unit reviews each week for the front page.

Any volunteers? :);)

[Jason]

I'd love to write unit reviews, although some of my unit views differ from what others think :)

[aielman]

Here you go:

Deadeye Dan
Shoot Slow things and high d things

Guilty
Shoot weak things (orcs, vipers)

James
Shoot Groups of things(orcs) and high D adjcacent things (DW7000)

Johnny
Shoot Groups of things(orcs)

There you go enjoy!!

[netherspirit]

Thanks aielman :roll:

[aielman]

not a prob, just glad I could help :-D

[netherspirit]

I'd love to write unit reviews, although some of my unit views differ from what others think :)

If you want to type something up I will see about putting it on the front page. Maybe you could do all the cowboys?

[markwars]

Can you be sure to include strategy ideas, units that are good counters, units that are fodder, pictures, etc. into your write ups?

[Nwojedi]

i like dead eye dan but he seems to die pretty easy. they should just take out the Eye in his name, and it would fit better.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I haven't had the opportunity of using him yet (can't find the pack anywhere), but I am definitely looking forward to some of that sweeet sniper action


Look forward here?
http://www.housemousegames.com/zadi.html

or here?
http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=746&ID=17344&PG=2





Kinda on a sidenote here about snipers, but I think the omnicrons' should have gotten actual rifles instead of pistol things. Do you guys agree?
Yes! This was mentioned on HSHQ. Someone noted snipers usually employ rifles. Maybe the Omnicrons v-shaped anntanae help guide the shot? :P

[Joah]

I love Dan. The biggest game-changer of all the cowboys IMHO.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I love Dan. The biggest game-changer of all the cowboys IMHO.
I like Dan the best of the Lawmen. I want to enjoy Murphy, but he's let me down everytime. Or I've let him down....

[Roufus]

not neccesarily of the lawmen
but I'd like to write some unit reviews and such.
What are the guildelines of such an ordeal?
Who do I contact or submit it to?

[monkeyfish]

My friend does this cheap thing with dead-eye dan and almost always wins by ignoring the "'specails can't be upgraded rule and places him up high and out of range with Ivor, kelda, A+1, D+1, D+2. and he says that my Syvarris's second attack can't be upgraded. :evil: :wtf!:

[Rajaat the Warbringer]

I cleaned up with Deadeye Dan in my last game, I probably took out 6 unit figures, and wounded Theracus.

[Nwojedi]

My friend does this cheap thing with dead-eye dan and almost always wins by ignoring the "'specails can't be upgraded rule and places him up high and out of range with Ivor, kelda, A+1, D+1, D+2. and he says that my Syvarris's second attack can't be upgraded. :evil: :wtf!:

you do know that syvarris's double attack is NOT a speical attack...right? So it can be upgraded. Why do you let him pull manuvers like that. SPecial attacks are not enhanced cuz they are overpowered when enhanced.

[Jandars_Hope]

I'd say Shotgun Sullivan is my fav. cowboy but deadeye dan is definitely my 2nd best!

[monkeyfish]

My friend does this cheap thing with dead-eye dan and almost always wins by ignoring the "'specails can't be upgraded rule and places him up high and out of range with Ivor, kelda, A+1, D+1, D+2. and he says that my Syvarris's second attack can't be upgraded. :evil: :wtf!:

you do know that syvarris's double attack is NOT a speical attack...right? So it can be upgraded. Why do you let him pull manuvers like that. SPecial attacks are not enhanced cuz they are overpowered when enhanced.

That's what I told him!!!!!!! :evil:

[jcb231]

I would love if we had a database here....each unit could be looked up or searched by various keywords, and all of the official info would be there, plus tips, tricks, and reviews by board members AND all of the links to other official units that work with that guy AND all of the links to good coutners, etc.

That would be peachy.

Anyway....Dan's great. His sharpshooter power is a real gamble, but the Ullar Rifle special attack is amazingly effective at picking off anything that gives you grief with it's high defense. Minions drop like flies.

He's bound to be a great castle defender. Put him up in the tower and let him go nuts.

[aielman]

I would love if we had a database here....each unit could be looked up or searched by various keywords, and all of the official info would be there, plus tips, tricks, and reviews by board members AND all of the links to other official units that work with that guy AND all of the links to good coutners, etc.

That would be peachy.

......

Have you looked at the Heroscape Wiki at heroscape.org? I think thats exactly what you are talking about....

[bluekitsune13]

Just what I was about to say aielman. Roufus, if you want to do some reviews of units, please help out at heroscape.org.

As for Dan, depending on the map he can be great. If you park him up on a cliff he can tear through minions and sentinels alike. I've never hit on the one shot kill special though.

[aielman]

Oh man Sentinals and Minions are where Dan really shines. 50% chance of kill against D of 8 and 6?? Not to mention his 10 range allows him at LEAST 2 chances. Thats just plain evil.

[peterm]

The Ullar Enhanced rifle also works for DW7000. Makes it a pretty easy kill.

[toddrew]

Haven't seen it mentioned explicitly on this thread (though I'm pretty sure it has been elsewhere), but DED (there's your shorthand, NWOJedi :lol: ) is a wonderful decoy also. Putting that X on him usually slows an advance, or detours it, and allows one to position troops (4th Mass, Raelin tactics, etc.)

The last game I used him, I got him positioned in a bottleneck area of the board and then piled up 4th Mass behind him and though DED only picked off one Tagawa (only shot he took), the 4th were able to clean up and subsequently take the high ground, game over.

I'm sure a situation like this is what Joah was referring to when stating "[DED is] the biggest game changer of all the cowboys."

[monkeyfish]

Dead eye Dan underpriced????? He's only 60 pionts!!!

[jcb231]

Heroscape.org? Not another site! Nooooooooo.....

[aielman]

lol its a wiki, its not so much another site as a resource.

[yagyuninja]

Stupid Dan. Sniped my Nilfheim in the second turn tonight. Game was over before it began. :cry:

[Roufus]

Stupid Dan, missed 4 unblocked shots, and the one it hit got ignored via 'stealth armor'.
He must have come down with parkinsons or something, couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Took Deadeye Dan last night on a 6 player, 200-points per player game. Big board and I think he worked perfectly for the map size.

He was down low and was able to pick off a Tagawa samurai who had engaged a friendly Primadon.

That was the only kill he got in, but it was an important one at 10 spaces away. Of course I had to do the Good, The Bad, and The Ugly 'wahawawa' music when he made the kill.
:wink:

[Command-and-Conquer]

I just use him as a squad killer.

[monkeyfish]

My friend uses DED as a sniper and defends his army with him.

[jcb231]

Gosh, what an original idea. :-P

[Roufus]

haha

[monkeyfish]

yeah but what he does is he places him out of range to snipe my guys where they can't get him. :x

[jcb231]

I never thought of that. ;-)

[monkeyfish]

He also places Kelda next to him and piles glyphs on him like lodin, kelda, and anything that helps.

[Roufus]

You know what, (not anybody inparticular)
But when people are telling about the effectivness of a unit,
I'm sick and tired of people piling things on.
'Yea, it's not that great of a unit, but with [glyph] and [glyph] and [glyph] and [special situation] and [height advantage] and [specialpower] he totally 0w3z d00d!"

Come ON, any unit is good with all sorts of paramiters. When comparing a unit, or its effectivness, stop citing situations that would tend to happen less than 1% of the time.

[bonafide]

I had a rematch with my brother, who had used his sneaky Guilty McCreech to steal the thunder out of my wonderfully placed Sniper 20 roll on Q9.

It was also the "rematch" between DED and Q9. And once again, I rolled a 19 to blow his nice, shiny Tin head off his body.

I managed to win the game, without interference from a game stealing McCreech! :chainsaw:

[scaper dude]

I love drafting Deadeye Dan into my army just to watch the shiver go down my opponent's spine. I think he's an awesome army card and is totally worth his points.
Deadeye Dan is a pretty sweet figure. With his range of 10 to out range Syvarris' range of 9. I love his Ullar Enhanced Rifle Special attack. He can shoot down squads like the Minions and the Krav Agents like nothing. Sure it takes 1 turn per hit but it's worth it if he's high and out of reach. Just take advantage of his range. His downfalls are that he's got 3 life and 2 defense. But who cares about that when he costs 60 points.
His sharpshooter is awesome even though it takes a pretty good d20 roll. I've done pretty well with him in my battles though. I've taken out Jotun, Braxas, Charos, Mimring, and Krug with his sharpshooter special attack. But that's just me. I'd give him a 4.5/5.
What do you think?

[netherspirit]

DED rocks.

Merging with this thread...

http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=1293&start=0

[Malechi]

I think he is more into Country and Western ...

[0rbital]

I love drafting Deadeye Dan into my army just to watch the shiver go down my opponent's spine. I think he's an awesome army card and is totally worth his points.
Deadeye Dan is a pretty sweet figure. With his range of 10 to out range Syvarris' range of 9. I love his Ullar Enhanced Rifle Special attack. He can shoot down squads like the Minions and the Krav Agents like nothing. Sure it takes 1 turn per hit but it's worth it if he's high and out of reach. Just take advantage of his range. His downfalls are that he's got 3 life and 2 defense. But who cares about that when he costs 60 points.
His sharpshooter is awesome even though it takes a pretty good d20 roll. I've done pretty well with him in my battles though. I've taken out Jotun, Braxas, Charos, Mimring, and Krug with his sharpshooter special attack. But that's just me. I'd give him a 4.5/5.
What do you think?

I've drafted him every game since I bought him a few weeks ago. Definitely high on my list of picks. I'll try to draft him, Syvarris, and Raelin usually.

[Roufus]

We had a 1500 point game (my first!) to where I surrounded dan with big guys and ended up killing brunak, braxas, charos, and jotun all in one game with good ol' dan!

all that without glyph enhancement!

[Hahnarama]

FYI

I'll be judging the DED look alike contest nexct Friday, 7 PM, during

Gen Con! :gencon:


5 days, 9 hrs, 1 min


:hijacked:

[NiteRaider]

Deadeye Dan can shoot so far...

1.) The bullet could miss, travel all across Valhalla, and hit the target on the 2nd trip.

2.) One game he fired his rifle at his opponent's figure, and hit a different player's figure on a different map in a different game!

3.) He was at a shooting range in L.A., fired, and shot someone off the top floor of the Empire State Building.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I DID IT! I DID IT!
Deadeye on a fresh Major Q9 with height on a bridge. Deadeye was my second turn on the second round. I fired with Sharpshooter


POP!

20!
:johnwoo: :johnwoo: :johnwoo: :johnwoo: :johnwoo: :johnwoo:


FRICKIN' YEAH! That was my first Sharpshooter kill!

We're going to do one more game tonight. This will be the last of three, 2 vs. 2 games!

I'm sooo stoked!

I LOVE THIS GAME!!!! 8)

[Jason]

DED is even better after Wave 5 since he can bypass many of these special defense abilities like smokescreen and vanish

[adog]

I personally dont like him, if he has to stay in the same spot to fire, hes gunna be toast in a few rounds. I dont see how people could like him, unless he always comes up big in ur game withthe 20D.

i allways use him and leave him in the front line of the starting area behind some type of cover so that he can use his full range and get rid of squad figures. he is especialy useful for people who have counter strike and stealth dodge.

[killercactus]

Yes... Dan needs some units out in front of him absorbing the brunt of the attacks while he picks off key targets. One thing I like to do with him is keep the X marker on him most of the time. Then, when you actually put one marker on him, your opponent might assume its the X and not target him.

I find he's a cheap counter to all of the Agents, bypassing their ranged defensive abilities. I hardly ever use his D20 ability unless I have no one else to target or I'm in a desperate situation. Also, like most ranged units, rats are his best friend to tie up potential targets.

[ProfessorDocker]

:reaper: eh?

I would love if we had a database here....each unit could be looked up or searched by various keywords, and all of the official info would be there, plus tips, tricks, and reviews by board members AND all of the links to other official units that work with that guy AND all of the links to good coutners, etc.
And the Books of Heroscape came to be as foretold by the prophet jcb231 in the year 2006.

!Docker

[GI Joker]

I've never had any success with his d20 but my fiancé has killed a fresh Krug, Q9, and Grimnak. Krug and Grimnak were in the same game, too! We passed a "no DED in friendly games" rule. It always ends in tears when he is around.

[Matthias Maccabeus]

I find it odd that nobody's mentioned the DED Theracus or DED and Brunak Combo. Have one of them place DED into position then have him start firing away. DED is an X factor. I've seen him 1 shot Q9, DW8K, and Syvarris in one game. I've also seen him die to rats (with height). Once he becomes engaged he's actually rather worthless, because his special says any non adjacent figure. Sometimes he rocks and sometimes, not so much.

[Temprit]

Dude I love all the Cowboys. I think it would be sweet to have one for Utgar. One problem is my Johnny Shotgun has no head. My friend shot an Air soft gun and it took his head right off. I was pissed. But I do have to admit it was a good shot.

[rdhight]

I look forward to bringing Deadeye against the Marvel characters, especially Iron Man and Doom. Now that I think about it, it would be nice to have Deadeye in an army with Doom or Red Skull, because you could activate him right when you need him for an ullar rifle shot at a big hero with 1 life left.

[Kroz]

Think of how mad your opponent would be when you used successfully used sharpshooter on the Hulk...oh man. :twisted:

[whataboutjon]

You know, I've always kind of dismissed Deadeye Dan. Then last night my wife drafted him and used him to take out Charos and Krug in the first three rounds of play with Sharpshooter. I'm not laughing at him anymore...

[whataboutjon]

I look forward to bringing Deadeye against the Marvel characters, especially Iron Man and Doom. Now that I think about it, it would be nice to have Deadeye in an army with Doom or Red Skull, because you could activate him right when you need him for an ullar rifle shot at a big hero with 1 life left.
PS. My wife triggered him special attack using Red Skull. I had used Skull to finish off her army the last game, so she was determined to take me out with Skull this time.

[The Super Atheist]

I haven't had the opportunity of using him yet (can't find the pack anywhere), but I am definitely looking forward to some of that sweeet sniper action


Look forward here?
http://www.housemousegames.com/zadi.html

or here?
http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=746&ID=17344&PG=2





Kinda on a sidenote here about snipers, but I think the omnicrons' should have gotten actual rifles instead of pistol things. Do you guys agree?
Yes! This was mentioned on HSHQ. Someone noted snipers usually employ rifles. Maybe the Omnicrons v-shaped anntanae help guide the shot? :P

Mabye becuase they are robots, they are super accurate and don't need accurate rifles. (Well, they are 50% accurate, but when they hit they hit a weak spot... like a kneecap or something)

[darktrooper899]

In his bio, it says he could make shots "well past 300 yards" If this was true, then, assuming thorgrim is 6 ft tall, his range would be 150+ spaces :twisted: That would be FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :excited: :mrgreen:

[Revdyer]

Range is one of the on-going oddities about HeroScape. We've got an elf who can shoot arrows 50% further than a Revolutionary War era musket, and even further than a WWII rifle. Plus the Airborne Elite can throw a hand grenade over half the distance of a rifle shot (and Jotun can throw a person half the distance of a rifle shot too). Just amazing.

HeroScape: a great game, not a simulation.

[darktrooper899]

Ah, Thanks
It would still be awesome, though. :cry:

[AzurecobaltX]

Range is one of the on-going oddities about HeroScape. We've got an elf who can shoot arrows 50% further than a Revolutionary War era musket, and even further than a WWII rifle. Plus the Airborne Elite can throw a hand grenade over half the distance of a rifle shot (and Jotun can throw a person half the distance of a rifle shot too). Just amazing.

HeroScape: a great game, not a simulation.

I thought the original name of the game was "This Really Happened in Valhalla"?

Oh, well :)

[Revdyer]

Range is one of the on-going oddities about HeroScape. We've got an elf who can shoot arrows 50% further than a Revolutionary War era musket, and even further than a WWII rifle. Plus the Airborne Elite can throw a hand grenade over half the distance of a rifle shot (and Jotun can throw a person half the distance of a rifle shot too). Just amazing.

HeroScape: a great game, not a simulation.

I thought the original name of the game was "This Really Happened in Valhalla"?

Oh, well :)

Naw...they tried that one, but the rulebook was over 900 pages long.

[darktrooper899]

Oh well, a guy can dream. :lol: