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Sydcomebak
July 11th, 2006, 12:24 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060711/ap_on_en_mu/obit_barrett

*sigh* I'm so depressed.

www.sydcomebak.com

Doc_Savage
July 11th, 2006, 12:30 PM
A sad day indeed...................

markwars
July 11th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I Wish You Were Here is playing on my PC right now. :cry:

Sydcomebak
July 11th, 2006, 12:35 PM
I Wish You Were Here is playing on my PC right now. :cry:

Shine on, you crazy Diamond.

geddy lifeson
July 11th, 2006, 12:37 PM
I was surprised to see this. It is sad that his life took the turn it did. Not too long ago I was wondering what happened to Syd. RIP

ultradoug
July 11th, 2006, 12:38 PM
Rember, the legacy of the person will last. I was sad when I found out Weird Al's parents passed, its odd to have such a connection to someone that you dont really know, but we view such people as our heros and when someone they are realted to passes or they do, we are upset, but rember, that heros never really die, there works surpas them.

Hahnarama
July 11th, 2006, 12:42 PM
.........Weird Al........

Why am I not suprised that UD's INSANITY is fuled by Wierd Al? :P

Hahnarama
July 11th, 2006, 12:44 PM
I Wish You Were Here is playing on my PC right now. :cry:

Sad thing is I bet 1/2 the people here have no idea who we are talking about or what the big deal is.

I bet a lot of Floyd fans don't even realize that album was written by the band for their friend.

Sydcomebak
July 11th, 2006, 12:47 PM
Sad thing is I bet 1/2 the people here have no idea who we are talking about or what the big deal is.

Well, Some people are too young, or are into their rap or hipin' hoppin' muzak.

Everyone needs to retrace the steps that music took to get to this point. Find those that did the majority of the innovation, and worship them.

LilNewbie
July 11th, 2006, 12:59 PM
Sad thing is I bet 1/2 the people here have no idea who we are talking about or what the big deal is.

Well, Some people are too young, or are into their rap or hipin' hoppin' muzak.

Everyone needs to retrace the steps that music took to get to this point. Find those that did the majority of the innovation, and worship them.

I agree and I try to find the greatest hits albums of older groups to "catch up" on what has gone before. Some people mock the greatest hits albums but it lets those of us who are interested in finding out about a group hear some of the more influential songs they produced. Sometimes I'll go buy the album a song comes from to hear more of the songs from that era. It's fun learning about groups and I've really found some great songs doing this. I like almost all types of music (except Rap....early Rap was cool...RunDMC and the like but a lot of it from today doesn't appeal to me at all.) I've been meaning to brush up on some early Pink Floyd and looks like a good time to do it. Thanks for posting the news link...

Newb.

player_of_volleyball
July 11th, 2006, 02:31 PM
Sad thing is I bet 1/2 the people here have no idea who we are talking about or what the big deal is.

Well, Some people are too young, or are into their rap or hipin' hoppin' muzak.

Everyone needs to retrace the steps that music took to get to this point. Find those that did the majority of the innovation, and worship them.

yea im only 15 so i dont kno who yall are talking about ,but i dont like that rap crap( cant spell crap without rap) im into rock :headbang:

markwars
July 11th, 2006, 03:41 PM
For those unfamiliar with Barrett I think the greatest intro you could have would be to get the album "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn". It's some of his most innovative stuff and really captures not just Barrett, but Pink Floyd in general. What that guy could do with a Zippo on a fret board played back through and echo machine was otherworldly. 8)

AgentX-127
July 11th, 2006, 04:45 PM
Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun.

Fallen Templar
July 11th, 2006, 04:57 PM
Why do the good die young goodbye syd :cry: :cry: :cry:

Joah
July 11th, 2006, 05:59 PM
Yeah, I had some incredible experiences while "Pipers" was playing in the background. The singer in my first band was a HUGE fan of Syd, so we did a lot of Syd's songs. I will look for my Barrett solo records later. I suggested shutting the office down early, my boss didn't go for it. :cry:

Taeblewalker
July 11th, 2006, 06:06 PM
"Piper at the Gates of Dawn" is one of my favorite album titles. I've always placed it alongside "Houses of the Holy" by Zeppelin and "Sad Wings of Destiny" by Priest as among the most haunting and subtly inspired album titles out there.

Taeblewalker

daevablacc
July 12th, 2006, 12:00 AM
Sorry to hear this. I hope he is at rest now. Poor guy. BTW, my wife just turned 24 and she knows tons about ol' Syd. I just told her the news. Thanks for the info and the link.

Nwojedi
July 12th, 2006, 01:13 AM
i didn't care much for floyds early stuff. Kinda like Genesis's early work. DIdn't care much for that either. I think PF really shined and become musical geniuses, when they moved out of the drug music. Momentary laps of reason, is probably one of the greatest albums ever written.

reapersaurus
July 12th, 2006, 02:32 AM
Everyone needs to retrace the steps that music took to get to this point. Find those that did the majority of the innovation, and worship them.While it is important to trace where music came from, I completely disagree with the (perhaps unfortunate wor choice) of "worshiping" musicians.

Syd Barrett was not exactly a admirable personality, based on what I know.
Talented, yes.
Avante-guarde, yes.
Pushing musical envelopes (in a time when MANY musical ideas were new and never-done-before, remember) may be important, but this guy basically was insane.
He could not cope with the real world, and instead retreated to a personal cell of isolation.

I don't see much about Syd Barrett the man that is admirable. :shrug:

Nwojedi - I gotta reply to your blasphemous comment : :lol:
Momentary Lapse was a popularity-fueled piece of pablum compared to Pink Floy'd previous masterworks starting with Dark Side of the Moon and ending with the last REAL Pink Floyd album, the criminally-underappreciated Final Cut (the last album with the most important member of the band Roger Waters).

bunjee
July 12th, 2006, 03:12 AM
Although I've never been one to follow much of what popular musicians do, I found the information in the article to be touching.

It is truly wonderful for band members to stick behind a friend, try and help him deal with the problems that he could never fully over come, and continue to hold him dear through their lives and until the end of his.

Reaper, although I see, and potentially agree, with your statement that the life of the man was not something to hold in high regard, I do find the display of care provided by those around him wonderful. And unlike so many of the raved over musicians in the world, he didn't OD or suicide in some horrid headline grabbing sensationalistic fashion.

Young at 60, but with enough time spent living his life after the truly bad times that he was able to provide a positive example to many.

LilNewbie
July 12th, 2006, 01:31 PM
Interesting Geek List on BGG about Syd (and Pink Floyd):

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/15361

Newb.

markwars
July 12th, 2006, 02:24 PM
reaper I understand your point about not worshipping Barrett, but do you think that everyone with schizophrenia is not admirable? The guy had a mental illness. He was a tragic genius. I'm not worshipping him - or anyone else for that matter - but damn have a heart. His body may have lived to 60, but everyone that knew Barrett also knew that he mentally checked out in 1968 and by 1975 he never came back. He didn't decide to be a schizophrenic, he just was.

reapersaurus
July 12th, 2006, 06:03 PM
markwars - anytime anyone loses their mental faculties, it is tragic.

But don't mis-take what my point was:

There is a big difference between having sympathy for a sick man, and worshiping him as a great man.

Sydcomebak
July 12th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Reap, thanks for taking my words so literally. =P

Especially when people are everyday labeled as "rock gods" and "rock icons." Do you REALLY think that people are thinking of these people as GODS? Give me a break.

There is a big difference between having sympathy for a sick man, and worshiping him as a great man.

If those are the only 2 choices, I choose the latter in this case. Syd was a great man, period.

toddrew
July 12th, 2006, 06:55 PM
thanks for taking my words so literally. =P

So, you're saying that you didn't intend for me to start this petition to found the 'Church of Syd'? :D

Seriously, though, your comment was not lost on me. Context most always adds to my depth of interest in the music I listen to.

0rbital
July 12th, 2006, 07:19 PM
RIP Syd, he lost it mentally mostly due to copius amounts of hallucinogens. While I like Piper I think post-Syd Meddle is one of the greatest Floyd albums.

Agent Minivann
July 13th, 2006, 04:31 AM
Yeah, I had some incredible experiences while "Pipers" was playing in the background. The singer in my first band was a HUGE fan of Syd, so we did a lot of Syd's songs. I will look for my Barrett solo records later. I suggested shutting the office down early, my boss didn't go for it. :cry:

I had an old coworker who would wear a black armband on the anniversaries of John Lennon's and Frank Zappa's deaths.

I'm one that didn't know of Syd, but mostly because I'm not that big of a rock history guy. I can appreciate the impact he had on music. I think the fact that Floyd made sure he was getting royalties and taken care of speaks volumes. While I agree with the basic gist of reaper's post, I think you're going too hard line with it. If the man isn't a great model of a quality human being, don't worship him, but with Syd there are other factors going on that he deserves some slack. At the same time, it is good to recognize the contribution to the art from the man, no matter how fallible the man is.

RobWeaver
July 13th, 2006, 07:23 AM
RIP Syd, he lost it mentally mostly due to copius amounts of hallucinogens. While I like Piper I think post-Syd Meddle is one of the greatest Floyd albums.

"Marmelade? D'ye like marmelade?"

Nwojedi
July 13th, 2006, 12:48 PM
i know it was tragic when UD lost his mind. :cry: We will miss it.

Bixby
August 1st, 2006, 01:20 AM
It is a true loss. I have followed Floyd and its members through the years and have tried to buy all of the solo project material as well (including a 3 CD box set of Syd's). Syd's passing marks the end of an era for me. They have been my favourite band since age 11 and at 42 I still marvel at their musical and lyrical genius. I am not one of the hardcore folks who say that Floyd without Waters is not Floyd, that same argument could be applied to Floyd without Syd. Truth is, I enjoy all of their works as a group and as solo artists. If I could only geta copy of Nick Mason's Fictitious Sports release my collection would be more complete. I plan on listening to the Syd CD's soon and reflect on this milestone.

Thanks SydComeBack for this thread. I am typically not a big contributor or reader of non-HeroScape posts. This one struck a chord though.