Marcu over Dumutef Guard?

[STAROCEAN980]

Has The Dumutef Guard been outclassed by Marcu? I was wondering because before when you had 25 points left your only options were a Dumutef or Swog Rider. Now for only 20 points we have a 6 life 4 attk 1 def 7 move and flying with life drain. The only downside to him is low def wich he makes up for with life and a 4 in 20 chance of turning against you for a turn.

The Dumutef Guard has good attk and def at 4 each but has 1 life and 6 move without flying. I'll admit the Dumutef is still good at defending a road or castle with his road bonus, and is also useful in a devourer heavy army with his attack enhancement. He also has a common status so you can draft multiples, and is large wich makes him less vulnerable to many special attacks and abilities.

I think that as a filler Marcu is a much better choice but as a supporter the Dumutef is better.


Please remember this poll is based mostly on taking the role of a filler. So, please say wich you think is better and why. :)

[Hendal]

wouldn't it be a 4 in 20 chance ( 20 %), at 17 or higher??

I would go with Marcu I guess, keep it real....... real interesting!

[STAROCEAN980]

wouldn't it be a 4 in 20 chance ( 20 %), at 17 or higher??

Oh yeah it would, sorry about that.:oops: It's fixed.

[Hendal]

I think this is a great question! Marcu is 5 pts. less, which should give him an edge there ( 20% less cost ), so the question comes down to if you have 25 pts left, do you waste 5 and take Marcu?

A lot would depend on your style of play I think. What fits into your army. On a road heavy board I might go DG.


I have never used Marcu, so I am just guessing on this. I think he would be a better finisher then the DG, and since if I do pick the DG he is usually the last guy used, I would pick Marcu, and then use him last.

[Mindfreak]

ooohh tough one. I've only used each once.
Ithink Dumtef got killed before did any damage. But Marcu Betrayed me. But when i regained controled He killed Drake and probablly turned the tide of the game... :D so marcu

[STAROCEAN980]

It's almost impossible for Marcu to not do his points in damage.(unless he betrays you and flies into the lava :twisted:. ) And DG is a great supporter in a army with lots of devourers, or a map with lots of road.

[Vlad the Impaler]

It's almost impossible for Marcu to not do his points in damage.(unless he betrays you and flies into the lava :twisted:. ) And DG is a great supporter in a army with lots of devourers, or a map with lots of road.

I heartily object! I've done at least one hundred points worth of damage with him, and he betrays me at least twice a game. if you can't do anything with this guy, then step aside, my friend.

[STAROCEAN980]

It's almost impossible for Marcu to not do his points in damage.(unless he betrays you and flies into the lava :twisted:. ) And DG is a great supporter in a army with lots of devourers, or a map with lots of road.

I heartily object! I've done at least one hundred points worth of damage with him, and he betrays me at least twice a game. if you can't do anything with this guy, then step aside, my friend. :?: :?

[NecroBlade]

Vlad, I think you skipped reading a word...

It's almost impossible for Marcu to not do his points in damage.(unless he betrays you and flies into the lava :twisted:. ) And DG is a great supporter in a army with lots of devourers, or a map with lots of road.

[ares834]

I agree with everyone who says Marcu is better. I use him as a cheap mop up hero for late game. Due to his mobility and high attack.

[MegadeV]

I'd probably take Isamu and waste 15 points instead of taking Marcu or a Dumutef. But if I had to choose between those two, it would most likely be Marcu.

[STAROCEAN980]

Vlad, I think you skipped reading a word...

It's almost impossible for Marcu to not do his points in damage.(unless he betrays you and flies into the lava :twisted:. ) And DG is a great supporter in a army with lots of devourers, or a map with lots of road.

Thank you Necro.

[Temprit]

Marcu all the way, He can Heal himself, and he has way more life.

[Vlad the Impaler]

Vlad, I think you skipped reading a word...

It's almost impossible for Marcu to not do his points in damage.(unless he betrays you and flies into the lava :twisted:. ) And DG is a great supporter in a army with lots of devourers, or a map with lots of road.

Thank you Necro.
ah. yes. well... whatever. :?

that's just strange.

[Junge Roman]

After having recently been devastated by a dumutef guard (5/5 ouch), I went with the Fiantooth.

[B:T:L Matt]

I voted for "they are equally good." I like the Dumetef Guard and he can be deadly given the right army or map, but also Marcu is a good last resort, mop up guy if you're looking for a filler.

Having tried Isamu also, I would totally agree with MegadeV and I'd have to say, I rather lose the 15pts and choose Isamu. Comparing all 3, I've seen more success with the little red ninja.

[KalisLord]

I voted for "they are equally good" as well because it really depends on what your army already has. Dumatef guards have the benefit of being commons so if I already have some it is better to have more. Also it really depends on the map as to which unit would be more effective. If I was just going for shear killing power and the rest of the army had nothing in common I'd probably go with Marcu, but it is a hard choice.

[killercactus]

Most of the time, I think it's Marcu. If your army has Ornak, its definitely Marcu, even with road. Without Ornak and with a lot of road or a solid choke point of road, I may go with the DG, but only then. I vote Marcu.

[decarrot]

I voted Marco

But where is Isamu

[STAROCEAN980]

I voted Marco

But where is Isamu

I wanted to see if people thought the DG is outclassed by Marcu not to see wich filler is best otherwise I would have listed Isamu, Kytelna, Guilty, and Eldgrim too.