Spawncamping

[The Super Atheist]

I play Battlefield 1942 alot. My Name is +Red Baron+.

And everybody on the game hates spawn camping.

Is spawncamping ok?

P.S. This is for spawncamping in general, not just in battlefield.

[johnny139]

Underhanded techniques are to be expected on teh interwebz.

[Fallen Templar]

sUnderhanded techniques are to be expected on teh interwebz. It's still noobtastic. COD 2(Call of Duty 2) is the worst for spawn camping

[Schulzy]

I used to play UT2K7 alot, and spawncamping ticked me off, especially when you can't get out of your base.

[johnny139]

Underhanded techniques are to be expected on teh interwebz. It's still noobtastic. COD 2(Call of Duty 2) is the worst for spawn camping

Well, sucks to be you. Once your team works together you should be able to beat them.

[NiteRaider]

I don't play online PS2 (although I keep trying to get it set up). In my experience in multiplayer combat with my cousins (Black Hawk Down, Medal of Honor, SW Battlefront, etc.), camping (or spawncamping in this case) is something that you praise when you are using it against your opponent and loathe when it is being used against you. I for one, approve of forms of camping. It can be the ultimate defensive tactic. I understand that it is never any fun being on the receiving end of a camper's (or anyone else's) new-age version of "lead poisoning". Campers are just trying to help their team win by fighting with every last breath to keep a key position (i.e. base, command post, lookout post, etc.) from falling to the opponent. In my experience with SWBF, when my faction is down to its last few men, I always look for a spot on/near a CP with health and/or ammo posts and fight it out until I defy the odds and win or go down in flames.

So really, spawncamping is just a harmless tactic that you use to win that just so happens to get under your opponents' skin. This also applies to something I call "crossfires" when you have two MG turrets side-by-side and you and a buddy use them both and slaughter the enemy forces. Your cool gets broken because frustration sets in on the sole account that you are facing a virtually inpenetrable defensive fortress. That is what camping truly is.

[Fallen Templar]

Underhanded techniques are to be expected on teh interwebz. It's still noobtastic. COD 2(Call of Duty 2) is the worst for spawn camping

Well, sucks to be you. Once your team works together you should be able to beat them. Umm people spawn camp in regular deathmatches as well. Considering your a Nintendo fanboy you probably haven't played in many games with inordinate amount of Spawn Killing

[johnny139]

Underhanded techniques are to be expected on teh interwebz. It's still noobtastic. COD 2(Call of Duty 2) is the worst for spawn camping

Well, sucks to be you. Once your team works together you should be able to beat them. Umm people spawn camp in regular deathmatches as well. Considering your a Nintendo fanboy you probably haven't played in many games with inordinate amount of Spawn Killing

My friend makes me play PC FPS, and I have an XBOX.

If it's one on one... then you lose. Too bad for you, try again next time.

[NiteRaider]

Not necessarily, it depends on the game and map.

[CupidsArt]

What's the point of playing the game if all you're going to do is camp. In real war, yeah I'd camp, I'd camp like there's no tomorrow, but this is a game.

I really don't get mad at campers, it's not their fault that they can't kill anyone without taking that particular advantage. I also love killing campers especially in HALO and COD. Get up behind them, say their screen-name and POW. Then I proceed to teabag them until I get killed, rinse repeat :D

"Hey Sup3rSn1p3r4423!" Then I giggle like a school girl even while they are shooting me back.


The only people who make me truly angry in multiplayer games are those who choose to cheat. I hope they have a power surge that destroys their console/PC, :twisted:

[The Super Atheist]

What's the point of playing the game if all you're going to do is camp. In real war, yeah I'd camp, I'd camp like there's no tomorrow, but this is a game.

I really don't get mad at campers, it's not their fault that they can't kill anyone without taking that particular advantage. I also love killing campers especially in HALO and COD. Get up behind them, say their screen-name and POW. Then I proceed to teabag them until I get killed, rinse repeat :D

"Hey Sup3rSn1p3r4423!" Then I giggle like a school girl even while they are shooting me back.


The only people who make me truly angry in multiplayer games are those who choose to cheat. I hope they have a power surge that destroys their console/PC, :twisted:

Yes, I enjoy killing the guy who parks his heavy tank right next to my spawn point.

I also like being the guy who parks his heavy tank right in the center of the base.


I really hate servers that don't even let you bomb the enemy base, or don't let you obliterate it with artillery guns. That is what a bomber and scout is for.

And then they put these auto kill base perimeters on so you can't sneak in and mine all the tanks. That is what an engineer is for, he has dynamite and mines.

see, there is no team work EVER in fps's and other kind of shooting games unless it's a 2 on 2 Goldeneye match.

[Erasmas]

Every once in a while I get a good group of players on Rainbow Six who work together as a team. But it is definitely not the norm on FPS's, that's for sure.

Also, just to make a clarification here, there is a difference between camping and spawncamping. In my opinion, camping is perfectly okay. Especially in gametypes where there is a specific objective tied to a certain local. If someone is going to be trying to come in and plant a bomb in my team's base, you're damn straight I'm going to be in that base watching the drop-spot. If someone's going to be trying to steal my flag, guess what I'm going to be in eye-sight of. But even if that's not the case...

If I find a place where I can keep the directions that I will have enemies coming at me from down to a minimum and still be able to attack them, I'm gonna take it. As long as it is within the rules and spirit of the game. Having your sights trained in on where players are respawning, so that you can shoot them in the back as they run for some sort of cover is not in the spirit of the game. This is the same kind of personality triat that thinks it's alright to shoot big-game animals ten yards from the cage they were just let out of.

Most players seem to forget that the point of a game is for everyone to have fun. Players seem to set their mind to winning and little else matters. Flinging insults, cheating, tea-bagging, spawn-camping, yelling random strings of curse words... these are things that should not be part of any gaming experience. These are things to do for people who get off by pissing off strangers.

But that's just my two copper pieces.

[Nooblar]

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[The Super Atheist]

Most players seem to forget that the point of a game is for everyone to have fun. Players seem to set their mind to winning and little else matters. Flinging insults, cheating, tea-bagging, spawn-camping, yelling random strings of curse words... these are things that should not be part of any gaming experience. These are things to do for people who get off by pissing off strangers.

But that's just my two copper pieces.

Everything highlighted in red is fun. Being a total D-OOSH bag online is fun.

Roflcopter

And everyone having fun? If I have killed my way to the top of the skill pile (Of bodies) i'm gonna kill and teabag to my heart's content.

[NiteRaider]

What about in games when the goal is also to capture command posts (Star Wars Battlefront, Battlefield) where they serve as spawnpoints as well? Can that technically be considered "spawncamping" when you are capturing a CP or base?

[The Super Atheist]

What about in games when the goal is also to capture command posts (Star Wars Battlefront, Battlefield) where they serve as spawnpoints as well? Can that technically be considered "spawncamping" when you are capturing a CP or base?

If you stay out of the capture-perimeter and just kill eveything that respawns there it's spawncamping :mrgreen:

And servers not allowing people to attack Un-Capturable bases can suck my Moby Dick.

[GeneralBeaner]

Well, I know for a fact that spawncamping, and regular camping is okay. It may be cheap, but its effective. In a real war, you do anything you can to survive and win, so why not in a game that is meant to simulate a real war? Also, if the testers thought it was cheap, don't you think the developers would do something about it? To sum it up, If its possible to do, do it. (except for in real life.) Just don't hack or cheat, because that makes you into a "n00b ******-***." (those were not technically expletives, because I censored myself.)

[Erasmas]

The idea of a spawn point is in-and-of-itself unrealistic. In real war, you don't get a chance to come back after you've died. A game is just that, a game. These games are 2-dimesional versions of "real wars". It offers us a chance to play out the strategy and skill involved in trying to complete an objective in a tense situation without taking any risks or suffering any complications.

If you want to see real war... here (www.goarmy.com) you go.

And every game has loopholes in it that are effective. But that doesn't make them okay to exploit. Just because a choice is presented to you doesn't remove the blame if you choose to take the low road. Besides, the developers did do something for it... the same thing that they did for people who are cheating. You'll find it under "file a complaint" labelled "unsporting".

It works well for this too...
Being a total D-OOSH bag online is fun.

Roflcopter

And everyone having fun? If I have killed my way to the top of the skill pile (Of bodies) i'm gonna kill and teabag to my heart's content.

:wink:

[NiteRaider]

The only problem with camping I have is if everyone does it on both sides. Then it becomes boring, which is why there are modes like CTF where there is an incentive to come out and playay

[Grim]

To have, or not to have, exploitable numbers of and locations for spawn points, is a game design consideration.

If spawncamping in a particular game is a problem, then the design of that game is seriously flawed and/or under-tested.

Even now, more than a decade after it was identified as a game-breaking issue, it sounds like it is still relatively common.

It is hilarious to me that this issue persists.