DFW Heroscape Day Tourney (48 total - 40 Confirmed)

[wisinger]

Well ladies and gentleman, it sounds like it is time to start getting this worked up.

Date: 10/20/2007 (Proposed "National HeroScape Day")

Set Up Start Time: 10:00 - 10:30ish

Tourney Start Time: Nigh Noon until the last prize if pulled from the table

Entry Fee: 10.00$

What to bring with you:
- You army figures and cards
- Any markers (wound / special markers / etc.)
- Turn markers (make sure you check Rychean's and verify he doesn't use two 3's, and has an X ;))
- Dice
- A score sheet from the link at the very bottom of this VERY long post
- Drinks if you want something to sip on during the tourney
- good sportsmanship

Glyphs -->
1. Ulaniva-unique attack +1
2. Crevcor-common attack +1
3. Kelda-healer
4. Valda-move +2
5. Lodin-all d20 rolls +1
6. Dagmar-iniative rolls +8
7. Oreld-Intercept order marker
8. Gerda-defense + 1

Swarm of the Marro rules

500 Point army (No Marvel Figures)

Swiss style play format

Location:
BTW Swim and Tennis Club
18018 Voss Road
Dallas TX 75287

The cross streets are Voss and Frankford in the 75287 zip code area.

Maps:

So our new map pool is:

1. Spring Is In The Air (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=804) - 1 RotV + 1 TT + 1 RttFF
2. Hot Bog (http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/HotBog.pdf) - 1 SotM + 1 VW + 1 Marvel
3. Broken Skyline (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/?dlid=802) - 1 RotV + 1 FotA + 1 RttFF
4. Bunkered & Hunkered (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=718) - 1 RotV + 1 FotA + 2 RttFF (New ruin locations. (http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/Bunkered_and_Hunkered.jpg))
5. Swog Bog (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=823) - 1 RotV + 1 SotM + 1 RttFF (Trees)
6. Marr Highway (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=149) - 1 RotV + 1 RttFF
7. The Frozen Stair (http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/TheFrozenStair.pdf) - 1 RotV + 2 TT
8. Moss Creek Road (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=868) - 1 SotM + 1 Marvel + 1 RttFF
9. Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=464) - 1 RotV + 1 RttFF (Trees)
10. Highways and Dieways (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=726) - 1 RotV + 2 RttFF



Prizes:

1st
2nd
3rd
longest traveled
youngest player
any others?
Best Sportsman

Note about Prizes / Prize table:

Everyone should bring a prize for the prize table. Prizes should definitely be something cool and fun, but definitely do not have to be expensive. Past prizes have included expansion packs, master sets, custom figures/cards, custom terrain, manga videos, Simpsons DVDs, other games, comic books, notebooks collecting all Heroscape bios/stories/character cards, laser pointers for line of sight, dice towers, really big maps of the heoscape world, and a cracked coffe mug. Probably the cracked coffe mug wasn't such a hot prize...

At the end of the day participants will take turns choosing prizes from the table starting with the champion and moving down to the player with the worst record. If there are stil prizes on the table after everyone has picked, then picking begins again with the player with the worst record.

Everyone brings a prize, everyone leaves with a prize.

Map Buiilders (number is noted above next to each map. 2 of each, with a couple having 3 to accomadate 44 players):

Wisinger/Lilwis --> 5,6,7,10
MarkWars --> 2, 4, 4, 9
DrLivingston--> 1,2,3,5,7,8,9,10
Rychean--> 6,7,8
Velenne--> 1, 10
aahzmandius--> 3

Attendees (48) Plus GrungeBob:
ForSures (40):
wisinger
lilwis
Velenne
Focus (plus one)
MarkWars
Rychean
saintBYgrace
DrLivingston
Rodriquez
son of rodriquez
DMG
Chem7
Chem8?
kurisenshi
LongHeroscaper
Revdyer
aahzmandius
Liam_l
Sweetcurse
Chuckrock
brotherlivingston
Toby
Athena
Luke C
Kacey3
UNTSig
Dignan
and dignan's friend
jwsanders
jwsanders friend number 1
jwsanders friend number 2
Jonathan
AggieNeH
rym
rym's counter haiku
Finrod
squadshed
Mike
piherculous
OmegaX01


Maybes (7):
geddy lifeson
TheRealQ
Son of Q for Real
Dr. Weirdscaper
gyrojoe69
son of gyrojoe69
crimsontyrs
InfinityMax

Calculating Drive Time (1):
noodles

What else do we need to track here?

Score sheets are now available in the downloads secion:

http://www.heroscapers.com/download/?dlid=881

[InfinityMax]

I'm in, and once we determine that it's a go, I'll call Gilligans and get the room.

[Velenne]

Well of course it's a go. And of course I'm in. :D

[markwars]

Add me to the list of attendees. And go ahead and enter DFlynSqrl as well.

For location....Gilligan's is definitely the way to go. I think everyone is going to love it. Food and drinks will be a non-issue for us to worry about.

For entrance fees...that's going to depend on how many entrants we have.

For maps....I have no problem using some of the maps from GenCon, but I'd love to see a Swamp terrain map added to the mix. And I'll volunteer to bring a couple of the tourney maps (which ones can be determined later - I've got plenty of terrain).

My only real question is, "Can we have a get together before this?" I want some Scape and I want it now. :D

[Jonathan]

Can you count me as a maybe? We're due to have a Scape baby on November 21st, and that's getting into the "play it by ear" zone.

[markwars]

Can you count me as a maybe? We're due to have a Scape baby on November 21st, and that's getting into the "play it by ear" zone.

Only if you give Scape baby a Scape name. :P

[Velenne]

I nominate "Mittens" as the baby's name.

[Rÿchean]

We'll be there.
provided of course that we are still welcome at Heroscape events given our track record of heinous transgressions and poor sportsmanship
We need to use SOTM rules as there are some changes that are in play now. The free flip on double spaced figures being the most prevalent.

Also, if we can do up some SOTM paper Glyphs for the common attack and unique attack so we can take the standard attack glyph out.

[markwars]

Somehow I'll fight through your laborious style of play Ry. :P

And I agree that the new rule set needs to be used.

[Velenne]

Well that's pretty much everyone important at this point. Close it up, we got us an event.

:horsepoo:

[saintBYgrace]

Please count me in as well. I am more than happy to try out some new figures and have some good fun. With that I look forward to seeing you all then and can not wait.

God Bless and Keep Faith;
-John-

[DFlynSqrl]

And go ahead and enter DFlynSqrl as well.

Well! I guess I'll be there then.

[markwars]

After GenCon you don't get a choice. :P

[DrLivingston]

I will be there as well!

My vote is for all new and different maps--A lava, snow, swamp, and 2 of whatever else. One of my favorite things about October is all the cool new maps that are created/revealed.

That Ember Canyon Road being discussed in the Battlefields of Valhalla thread looks pretty neat for lava:

Ember Canyon Road by Homba (http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10147/EmberCanyonRoad%28v2%29-diagram.pdf)

EDIT: I just read all 12 (as of now) pages of gen con wrapup/input.
Will UPC's Tournament value system be used? (it's on page 11)

[UranusPChicago]

Well that's pretty much everyone important at this point. Close it up, we got us an event.

:horsepoo:

:cry:

I guess throw me in there with the rest of the unimportant attenders...

[Velenne]

Well that's pretty much everyone important at this point. Close it up, we got us an event.

:horsepoo:

:cry:

I guess throw me in there with the rest of the unimportant attenders...

jaykay, jaykay, thus the horsepoo. :grouphug:

[markwars]

I will be there as well!

My vote is for all new and different maps--A lava, snow, swamp, and 2 of whatever else. One of my favorite things about October is all the cool new maps that are created/revealed.

That Ember Canyon Road being discussed in the Battlefields of Valhalla thread looks pretty neat for lava:

Ember Canyon Road by Homba (http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10147/EmberCanyonRoad%28v2%29-diagram.pdf)

EDIT: I just read all 12 (as of now) pages of gen con wrapup/input.
Will UPC's Tournament value system be used? (it's on page 11)

I think Ember Canyon Road should be used exclusively for Marvel games. :P

[Velenne]

A fair point. Are we going to allow Marvel figures? I won a set last weekend but I've yet to use them so I can't determine their balance value with classic HS.

[markwars]

A fair point. Are we going to allow Marvel figures? I won a set last weekend but I've yet to use them so I can't determine their balance value with classic HS.

No way. Maybe in a specialized tourney that GB dreams up, but not for out general championship.

[wisinger]

A fair point. Are we going to allow Marvel figures? I won a set last weekend but I've yet to use them so I can't determine their balance value with classic HS.

No way. Maybe in a specialized tourney that GB dreams up, but not for out general championship.

I agree

[ninthdoc]

I won't be there. I have one and possibly two things to do this day. I don't see myself participating in any more tourneys except to help run them. You guys have fun.

[Jonathan]

I won't be there. I have one and possibly two things to do this day. I don't see myself participating in any more tourneys except to help run them. You guys have fun.

:cry:


(Now where's that :understanding: smiley...)

[Velenne]

I won't be there. I have one and possibly two things to do this day. I don't see myself participating in any more tourneys except to help run them. You guys have fun.

:( :confused: :cry:

[wisinger]

I won't be there. I have one and possibly two things to do this day. I don't see myself participating in any more tourneys except to help run them. You guys have fun.

:(

[Rÿchean]

:(:(:(

[markwars]

ninth you have to at least be there to add ambiance to the room. I'll even offer to shuttle you so you can drink all you want. ;)

[Rodriquez]

Well that's pretty much everyone important at this point. Close it up, we got us an event.

:horsepoo:

:cry:

I guess throw me in there with the rest of the unimportant attenders...


wow yup toss me in with the unimportants!
no guarantee's as I'll be gone the weekend before for my mom's wedding but I should at the tourney also

cheers
Rod

[wisinger]

ninth you have to at least be there to add ambiance to the room. I'll even offer to shuttle you so you can drink all you want. ;)

I can come pick you up as well. Won't be the same without you, might as well go ahead and sell all my scape stuff

[Grungebob]

I'll be there and am PMing DMG to see about his interest level. He is thinking about switching over and becoming a Heroscape zealot like us. Please PM him and peer pressure him into joining us!!

[Jonathan]

I'll be there and am PMing DMG to see about his interest level. He is thinking about switching over and becoming a Heroscape zealot like us. Please PM him and peer pressure him into joining us!!

Only if he promises to repaint ALL of our figures :D

GB, your powers never cease to amaze me.

[Grungebob]

OK DMG says he will be there!!

[Finrod]

Put me on the "maybe" list.

Our 'Scape baby came in July, so by October, my wife should be at a point where she can spare me that long.

(No 'Scape name, by the way. An older love of mine takes precedence. Peter Theoden is doing fine.)

Jonathan, if we both end up going, maybe we can put together a Houston-area carpool.

[Jonathan]

Jonathan, if we both end up going, maybe we can put together a Houston-area carpool.

My mental powers must be increasing - I was just thinking about this :D

[markwars]

DMG is switching to Scape!?!?!? :shock:

Oh great! Yet another DFW Scaper to regular kick my butt around the hexes. :P

[kurisenshi]

Put me on the list! I'm ready to actually place at a tournament in the top 50%, so I'll be there! :)

[Annerios]

Add me and Mrs. Annerios to the "maybe" list. We have a lot of stuff going on in Oct, but will try to make it.

The Oct 2006 tourney was a lot of fun.

[markwars]

Yeah we'd like to see you at least once a year. :P

[Annerios]

Yeah we'd like to see you at least once a year. :P

:P I try.

I have a really good custom in mind for the prize table too. :stir:

[LongHeroscaper]

My lovely wife and I will be there (if nothing severe happens :) ). Hope to beat you down this time, Jonathan :twisted: !

[Rÿchean]

shaping up nicely :-D

...and I already have some nice prizes for the table

[Jonathan]

My lovely wife and I will be there (if nothing severe happens :) ). Hope to beat you down this time, Jonathan :twisted: !

Only if I get to make YOU sweat the entire game before you do so!

[kurisenshi]

Annerios, didn't you make a Scorpion custom? I'd LOVE for one of those tobe on the prize table...

[Annerios]

Annerios, didn't you make a Scorpion custom? I'd LOVE for one of those tobe on the prize table...

Yep. I'm always surprised that so many people remember that figure. I guess I did all right on that one. :D

[LongHeroscaper]

My lovely wife and I will be there (if nothing severe happens :) ). Hope to beat you down this time, Jonathan :twisted: !

Only if I get to make YOU sweat the entire game before you do so!

Are we gonna play outside under the sun? Otherwise, I don't see how YOU can make me sweat a single drop!! :twisted:

[Finrod]

ooooo... and the smack starts almost two months in advance!

[Rÿchean]

I would talk smack, but I have to go out of state to win anything. That or partner up with funrun.

[LongHeroscaper]

I would talk smack, but I have to go out of state to win anything. That or partner up with funrun.

Do you think my chance of winning is positive ( I am talking math here!) ? But I talk smack anyway. It's fun :) .

[underling]

How late on Saturday do you foresee this running?
I've got a MTB race in Bartlesville, Oklahoma on that Sunday, and so I would have to drive back north to Bartlesville (4 to 5 hours) that evening.
I'm gonna try like heck to (finally) make one of your events down there.
Kevin

[Rÿchean]

1030 start; we should be done by 4-5 pm.

[Revdyer]

I'm hoping to be there; will know for certain after Sunday afternoon meeting.

If there's a prize for youngest entrant, shouldn't there be one for the oldest? <grin>

[markwars]

You aren't as old as GB.

[Cavalier]

I'm working on convincing my wife to let me beat out Revdyer for the longest distance traveled award. 8)

[Rÿchean]

Bring lilnewbie with ya!

[Cavalier]

Bring lilnewbie with ya!I wouldn't mind meeting along the way and carpooling, but ABQ is a bit (abt 200 miles) off my path :wink:

[Rÿchean]

My bad, I saw AZ and thought NM for some reason; We would love to have you join us for the Second Annual Greater Southwest Heroscape Championship.

[Cavalier]

My bad, I saw AZ and thought NM for some reason; We would love to have you join us for the Second Annual Greater Southwest Heroscape Championship.Well I would be going through NM, just the southern part, not up by Newb's neck of the woods.

[wisinger]

Got 17 confirmed and 6 maybes, depending on 2 babies. Hey I made a rhyme...

[underling]

I'm hoping to be there; will know for certain after Sunday afternoon meeting.
If there's a prize for youngest entrant, shouldn't there be one for the oldest? <grin>
Alrighty then...
Just how old are you.
I'm in the 50+ bracket.
;)
Kevin

[Rÿchean]

Oh he is way older than that ;-)

[Finrod]

I would talk smack, but I have to go out of state to win anything. That or partner up with funrun.

Oh, don't sell yourself short. You beat me last year.

Then again... almost everyone beat me last year...

[Revdyer]

I'm hoping to be there; will know for certain after Sunday afternoon meeting.
If there's a prize for youngest entrant, shouldn't there be one for the oldest? <grin>
Alrighty then...
Just how old are you.
I'm in the 50+ bracket.
;)
Kevin
<laughing> I'm about to leave that bracket.

[Jonathan]

I would talk smack, but I have to go out of state to win anything. That or partner up with funrun.

Do you think my chance of winning is positive ( I am talking math here!) ? But I talk smack anyway. It's fun :) .

I think the deck is stacked in your favor that you have a positive chance of winning. There's only one other possibility, and I can't be sure of that until I see what army you brought :wink:

[Grungebob]

I'm really looking forward to this.

[Cavalier]

I've gotten tenative approval from management; please put me down as a very strong maybe.

[LongHeroscaper]

I would talk smack, but I have to go out of state to win anything. That or partner up with funrun.

Do you think my chance of winning is positive ( I am talking math here!) ? But I talk smack anyway. It's fun :) .

I think the deck is stacked in your favor that you have a positive chance of winning. There's only one other possibility, and I can't be sure of that until I see what army you brought :wink:

Jonathan, an epsilon is also a positive number. It is just too small. And I think that is what my chance is! But you know, it's a gathering of friends and people who are nice to each other, so who cares about winning or losing. All I care about is meeting people, seeing CupidArt's custom terrain, seeing Justjohn's custom figures, hopefully picking up some good game (like Shadow over Camelot), and WINNING YOU! That's all!

[Grungebob]

I would talk smack, but I have to go out of state to win anything. That or partner up with funrun.

Do you think my chance of winning is positive ( I am talking math here!) ? But I talk smack anyway. It's fun :) .

I think the deck is stacked in your favor that you have a positive chance of winning. There's only one other possibility, and I can't be sure of that until I see what army you brought :wink:

Jonathan, an epsilon is also a positive number. It is just too small. And I think that is what my chance is! But you know, it's a gathering of friends and people who are nice to each other, so who cares about winning or losing. All I care about is meeting people, seeing CupidArt's custom terrain, seeing Justjohn's custom figures, hopefully picking up some good game (like Shadow over Camelot), and WINNING YOU! That's all!Cupidsart's coming too?

[LongHeroscaper]

I would talk smack, but I have to go out of state to win anything. That or partner up with funrun.

Do you think my chance of winning is positive ( I am talking math here!) ? But I talk smack anyway. It's fun :) .

I think the deck is stacked in your favor that you have a positive chance of winning. There's only one other possibility, and I can't be sure of that until I see what army you brought :wink:

Jonathan, an epsilon is also a positive number. It is just too small. And I think that is what my chance is! But you know, it's a gathering of friends and people who are nice to each other, so who cares about winning or losing. All I care about is meeting people, seeing CupidArt's custom terrain, seeing Justjohn's custom figures, hopefully picking up some good game (like Shadow over Camelot), and WINNING YOU! That's all!Cupidsart's coming too?
I don't know :) . I am just saying those are some of the things that make me feel go..o...o....o....d!!! And even if he won't come, he still can send us his custom, right :wink: ?

[geddy lifeson]

Once again put me down as maybe and lets see if I can break the curse. I really want to make this one.

[wisinger]

Once again put me down as maybe and lets see if I can break the curse. I really want to make this one.

Should have everyone covered up to this post. A couple of things missing:

map makers:
We have two. I will be able to build 2 swarms (pending getting one more by tourney time), 4 1st master release.

MarkWars, how many can you provide.

I am guessing we will need a total of 20 maps.

Glyphs:
Which will be in the pool? only Swarm, or a mixture of originals, plus swarm?

Map selections:
need to define which maps to build so we can start practicing

[Rÿchean]

I am good for 4 rotv and 2 sotm.

[Squadshed]

Unless DoubleOak and Caleb are there, I probably have everyone beat for youngest player. Crap. I just realized something. It's backfired on me, and I have a Boy Scout campout that weekend. :x And Strange is busy too... well, this is disappointing.

[underling]

I'm hoping to be there; will know for certain after Sunday afternoon meeting.
If there's a prize for youngest entrant, shouldn't there be one for the oldest? <grin>
Alrighty then...
Just how old are you.
I'm in the 50+ bracket.
;)
Kevin
<laughing> I'm about to leave that bracket.
Well, if you're about to leave that bracket, I'll have to bow to the elder statesman then. :wink:
You've got me by about a decade, as I just entered that bracket back in January. :D
Kevin

[LongHeroscaper]

Will we have a prize for the person who comes from the furthest place? Oh please have one! By the way, I am from Asia!
About map, will we use new maps? Will the criteria be 1 MS/SotM + 3 expansions?

[Velenne]

My premarital counselor tells me I'm from Mars. And my fiance is from Venus.

No wonder she farts so much.

[DrLivingston]

Should have everyone covered up to this post. A couple of things missing:

map makers:
We have two. I will be able to build 2 swarms (pending getting one more by tourney time), 4 1st master release.

MarkWars, how many can you provide.

I am guessing we will need a total of 20 maps.

Glyphs:
Which will be in the pool? only Swarm, or a mixture of originals, plus swarm?

Map selections:
need to define which maps to build so we can start practicing


I can bring enough to build any 4 maps that do not have swamp terrain.

No interest in Ember Canyon Road v.2 ?


Ember Canyon Road (v2)
Made this version 2 for submission to the Battlefields of Valhalla project, pared down the materials to eliminate the extras required in version 1. Looks and plays virtually the same.
Requires: 1 MS, 2 RttFF, 1 VW.
Start Zones: 26+ start zones, 29 shown.

<Download .pdf Map Diagram (197KB) (http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10147/EmberCanyonRoad%28v2%29-diagram.pdf)> clear
<Download .doc Map Diagram (295KB) (http://www.tournamenthouse.com/Homba/Heroscape/Ember-Canyon-Road/EmberCanyonRoad%28v2%29-diagram.doc)> crystal clear
<Download VirtualScape .hsc File (9KB) (http://www.tournamenthouse.com/Homba/Heroscape//Ember-Canyon-Road/EmberCanyonRoad%28v2%29.hsc)>

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/10147/EmberCanyonRoad%28v2%29.JPG

[ninthdoc]

My premarital counselor tells me I'm from Mars. And my fiance is from Venus.

No wonder she farts so much.

Just be glad she isn't from Uranus.

[Velenne]

I liked Ember Canyon Road the few times I played it.

I also think a few of the maps from the Halls of Valhalla should be included.

Obviously at least 1 of the maps needs to have the new swamp terrain.

So how about: 1 lava, 1 ice, 1 swamp, 1 castle, and 1 map with none of the above?

[Velenne]

My premarital counselor tells me I'm from Mars. And my fiance is from Venus.

No wonder she farts so much.

Just be glad she isn't from Uranus.

BRILLIANT!! :rimshot:

[Grungebob]

My premarital counselor tells me I'm from Mars. And my fiance is from Venus.

No wonder she farts so much.

Just be glad she isn't from Uranus.Flawlessly executed my friend!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Grungebob]

I almost hate to mention this but we should try out a new PNP system at this tourney and help build some experience with it. It is kind of important, but if everyone just wants to do DCI Rychean has the software on his laptop.

Fun, friendship, and all that, are far more important to me than figuring out a system.

[funrun]

I love Gilligan's! I'll probably be there but can't be sure yet.

[Jonathan]

we should try out a new PNP system at this tourney

Any links to info on this?

[Grungebob]

we should try out a new PNP system at this tourney

Any links to info on this?Gotta warn you! It's not the most constructive thread around and has some disputes. There is a lot of info there too but it is confusing I'm sure for anyone not following the discussion.

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=11233&highlight=

[Revdyer]

Please move my name from the "Maybe" list to the "Committed to Being There" list. (I got approval from my Elders today.)

[wisinger]

Please move my name from the "Maybe" list to the "Committed to Being There" list. (I got approval from my Elders today.)

Sweet!!!. Done, looking forward to seeing you.

[Bixby]

Add me to the maybe list. Need to check out the particulars of a YMCA conference my daughter is attending. I may some play time state side. :)

[Chuckrock]

Count me as a maybe, just have to verify dates and a place to stay. J Gilligans is on the side of the Metroplex I can convince my wife to drive to. The In-Laws live in Grand Prairie!

[aahzmandius]

Ooh, ooh!


Me too, me too!

I'll be there for this one.

wish I could play a bit more often, though. I feel quite rusty.
--Aahz

[Velenne]

A fair point. Are we going to allow Marvel figures? I won a set last weekend but I've yet to use them so I can't determine their balance value with classic HS.

No way. Maybe in a specialized tourney that GB dreams up, but not for out general championship.

I agree

Any other opinions? I was resistant at first too, but after playing it a few times now I don't see why not. I schooled Hulk with 3 squads of heavy gruts and watched Spider-Man get wasted by Cyprian in two turns.

[Cavalier]

I have no problems mixing Marvel units in the tournements, but what ever the powers that be decided I am fine with.

[Grungebob]

A fair point. Are we going to allow Marvel figures? I won a set last weekend but I've yet to use them so I can't determine their balance value with classic HS.

No way. Maybe in a specialized tourney that GB dreams up, but not for out general championship.

I agree

Any other opinions? I was resistant at first too, but after playing it a few times now I don't see why not. I schooled Hulk with 3 squads of heavy gruts and watched Spider-Man get wasted by Cyprian in two turns.I personally do not want to mix them.

[Jonathan]

I'm cool with mixing, but understand the need for purity in this tourney as well.

[Finrod]

I've got Marvel now (pressure from my 6-year-old), but I don't like the concept of mixing them. So far, I've kept the entire contents of the Marvel set separate from the rest of my Scape stuff.

[funrun]

I vote no mixing Marvel!

I would talk smack, but I have to go out of state to win anything. That or partner up with funrun.
Well, this is true.

:P

[LongHeroscaper]

I vote no mixing Marvel, too.
How about maps? Will we mix RotV and SotM? For the simplicity of building the maps, I think we should not mix the two. But a map with a creek heading to a swam can look cool :) .

[InfinityMax]

I don't see any problem with adding swamp. I absolutely do not want to see the tourney include Marvel.

And I don't want to sound alarmist yet, but there's a possible complication with Gilligan's. Some radio station has a tentative booking for that day. The owner is calling me back, but in the mean time, we may need an alternate solution and it's probably best to think about it now.

I think our options are to investigate another place or consider another day. Obviously, another day is probably not a great idea.

[Velenne]

Wow, there's an awful lot of nays so far. I thought my previous skepticism put me firmly in the minority but lo and behold the grass really was greener. Is there a thread somewhere that points out actual reasons why the two won't work together? I guess I'm missing something here.

[Grungebob]

I don't see any problem with adding swamp. I absolutely do not want to see the tourney include Marvel.

And I don't want to sound alarmist yet, but there's a possible complication with Gilligan's. Some radio station has a tentative booking for that day. The owner is calling me back, but in the mean time, we may need an alternate solution and it's probably best to think about it now.

I think our options are to investigate another place or consider another day. Obviously, another day is probably not a great idea.We can use my community clubhouse if iit is not booked already.

[Jonathan]

Wow, there's an awful lot of nays so far. I thought my previous skepticism put me firmly in the minority but lo and behold the grass really was greener. Is there a thread somewhere that points out actual reasons why the two won't work together? I guess I'm missing something here.

I would guess it would be that Marvel just makes the game go a little haywire. Let's wait until we get that expansion and then try a Marvel tourney.

[Revdyer]

I'd rather not mix Marvel, either. The reason? I'm just not up on all the Marvel figures and their abilities all that much; nothing more than that.

[InfinityMax]

I don't see any problem with adding swamp. I absolutely do not want to see the tourney include Marvel.

And I don't want to sound alarmist yet, but there's a possible complication with Gilligan's. Some radio station has a tentative booking for that day. The owner is calling me back, but in the mean time, we may need an alternate solution and it's probably best to think about it now.

I think our options are to investigate another place or consider another day. Obviously, another day is probably not a great idea.We can use my community clubhouse if iit is not booked already.

OK. I should know for sure in the next couple days.

[Grungebob]

I don't see any problem with adding swamp. I absolutely do not want to see the tourney include Marvel.

And I don't want to sound alarmist yet, but there's a possible complication with Gilligan's. Some radio station has a tentative booking for that day. The owner is calling me back, but in the mean time, we may need an alternate solution and it's probably best to think about it now.

I think our options are to investigate another place or consider another day. Obviously, another day is probably not a great idea.We can use my community clubhouse if iit is not booked already.

OK. I should know for sure in the next couple days.Just let me know.

[wisinger]

I don't see any problem with adding swamp. I absolutely do not want to see the tourney include Marvel.

And I don't want to sound alarmist yet, but there's a possible complication with Gilligan's. Some radio station has a tentative booking for that day. The owner is calling me back, but in the mean time, we may need an alternate solution and it's probably best to think about it now.

I think our options are to investigate another place or consider another day. Obviously, another day is probably not a great idea.We can use my community clubhouse if iit is not booked already.

OK. I should know for sure in the next couple days.Just let me know.

I will give the community association a call tomorrow and check availability as well, so we can have that in our back pocket?

[Sweetcurse]

Count me as a maybe also.

[Strange]

Wow, there's an awful lot of nays so far. I thought my previous skepticism put me firmly in the minority but lo and behold the grass really was greener. Is there a thread somewhere that points out actual reasons why the two won't work together? I guess I'm missing something here.

Try facing Cyprien and Silver Surfer. And throw in Isamu. See how you like that.
By the way, this is Squadshed taking over Strange's computer. Hee hee!

[UranusPChicago]

I might be thinking a little too optimistic, but I would recommend that we find a place that could hold at least 50 players. We have grown fairly steadily for each of the major tournaments...

[Grungebob]

My clubhouse should be big enough to hold any of the previous amounts we have had. Tables and chairs might need to be worked out, but it is much more centrally located.

[LongHeroscaper]

I am sorry if this is paranoid, but do we need to request any kind of proper dice-rolling tool? The last time I played, there were many people rolling on the table. If they rolled from too high, the dice bounced off, they picked 'em up, wasting some time (and energy). If they rolled from too low, the dice were not bouncing enough, and the chance for skulls could be up to 62%. I personally played with two teams rolling the dice on the table and I am sure they were trustful, I had no problem. But I can't speak for every case in the future. Sorry everyone, no offense in any way!
The best option is of course dice tower (darn my cursed one). Many of us have one now, please use yours. The second best option, IMO, is a bowl. You can get one from Walmart or DollarTree for $1. The sound the dice make when you roll them in a bowl can boost your spirit up. Another option is a box, any kind of box, well, a small one. What do you use to carry your figures and cards to the tourney? If you use a big box, you probably own a dice tower, or you can put an extra bowl in it. If you use a small box, use it to roll your dice in.
Finally, I think we can buy a bunch of paper/plastic cup and bowl (or dish). People can use the cup to shake the dice, then roll into the paper/plastic bowl or dish. The dice will probably not be bouncing very much in the bowl, but at least they get shaken in the cup. If people forget or don't have anything to roll the dice in, they can use this method. If people have something to use, they will use it because I think no one want to roll their dice on the table (I could be wrong on this, though).
Rolling the dice properly could add a little bit to an organized tournament :) .

[wisinger]

My clubhouse should be big enough to hold any of the previous amounts we have had. Tables and chairs might need to be worked out, but it is much more centrally located.

opps! I misunderstood, I thought you wanted to explore the Stone Bridge community center.

[Grungebob]

My clubhouse should be big enough to hold any of the previous amounts we have had. Tables and chairs might need to be worked out, but it is much more centrally located.

opps! I misunderstood, I thought you wanted to explore the Stone Bridge community center.Well that wouldn't hurt either. If Imax doesn't get us the JGilligans we will need another venue. I checked out my clubhouse the other day and it is pretty nice.

[markwars]

I am sorry if this is paranoid, but do we need to request any kind of proper dice-rolling tool? The last time I played, there were many people rolling on the table. If they rolled from too high, the dice bounced off, they picked 'em up, wasting some time (and energy). If they rolled from too low, the dice were not bouncing enough, and the chance for skulls could be up to 62%. I personally played with two teams rolling the dice on the table and I am sure they were trustful, I had no problem. But I can't speak for every case in the future. Sorry everyone, no offense in any way!
The best option is of course dice tower (darn my cursed one). Many of us have one now, please use yours. The second best option, IMO, is a bowl. You can get one from Walmart or DollarTree for $1. The sound the dice make when you roll them in a bowl can boost your spirit up. Another option is a box, any kind of box, well, a small one. What do you use to carry your figures and cards to the tourney? If you use a big box, you probably own a dice tower, or you can put an extra bowl in it. If you use a small box, use it to roll your dice in.
Finally, I think we can buy a bunch of paper/plastic cup and bowl (or dish). People can use the cup to shake the dice, then roll into the paper/plastic bowl or dish. The dice will probably not be bouncing very much in the bowl, but at least they get shaken in the cup. If people forget or don't have anything to roll the dice in, they can use this method. If people have something to use, they will use it because I think no one want to roll their dice on the table (I could be wrong on this, though).
Rolling the dice properly could add a little bit to an organized tournament :) .

After the last team tourney we had I heartily agree. I simply do NOT want to play with folks that refuse to roll their dice fairly.

Your solution of using disposable bowls and cups is the perfect way to solve this issue. I think this needs to be official for ALL tournaments from this day forward.

[Finrod]

After the last team tourney we had I heartily agree. I simply do NOT want to play with folks that refuse to roll their dice fairly.

Your solution of using disposable bowls and cups is the perfect way to solve this issue. I think this needs to be official for ALL tournaments from this day forward.

Or dice towers. Gotta allow the dice towers.

[InfinityMax]

LongScaper, I should hire you for marketing.

I'm working on a box where the lid folds down to sit along the side of the box, and the inside is big enough to hold HS cards and dice and figs, and then you take everything out and it's padded inside so you can roll in the box.

Not sure if it will be ready by October, though. So roll in a cigar box until then.

[Revdyer]

At home I use dice towers, but didn't want to risk my Vixen Tor beauties at the GenCon events, so took a small wooden box. The only disadvantage to the box was that the opponent had to stand half-way up to see the dice, if they didn't trust my calls on them. But not to bad. I got the box at a dollar store kind of place and it has served me well.

(Wife: Why do you need four dice towers?
Me: 'Cause I have three friends.)

[markwars]

After the last team tourney we had I heartily agree. I simply do NOT want to play with folks that refuse to roll their dice fairly.

Your solution of using disposable bowls and cups is the perfect way to solve this issue. I think this needs to be official for ALL tournaments from this day forward.

Or dice towers. Gotta allow the dice towers.

Absolutely, but for those folks that stubbornly refuse to get with the program paper cups and bowls would work well.

[underling]

After the last team tourney we had I heartily agree. I simply do NOT want to play with folks that refuse to roll their dice fairly.
Your solution of using disposable bowls and cups is the perfect way to solve this issue. I think this needs to be official for ALL tournaments from this day forward.
Okay, wait a minute...
Rolling dice on a tabletop is rolling dice unfairly?
:wink:
As long as it's understood when a die should be rerolled (as in falling off the table or being cocked), I really don't understand why rolling dice on a table is a problem.
Or I guess I should say it hasn't (yet) been a problem in my 40+ years of gaming.
Kevin

[markwars]

After the last team tourney we had I heartily agree. I simply do NOT want to play with folks that refuse to roll their dice fairly.
Your solution of using disposable bowls and cups is the perfect way to solve this issue. I think this needs to be official for ALL tournaments from this day forward.
Okay, wait a minute...
Rolling dice on a tabletop is rolling dice unfairly?
:wink:
As long as it's understood when a die should be rerolled (as in falling off the table or being cocked), I really don't understand why rolling dice on a table is a problem.
Or I guess I should say it hasn't (yet) been a problem in my 40+ years of gaming.
Kevin

You haven't seen anyone "setting" dice rather than rolling them then? Count yourself as lucky. If you don't believe it then I invoke the name of LilNewbie - my partner in that tourney - to back me up. We both could not believe what we were seeing and though we should have been more vocal about our objections we just honestly couldn't believe that someone would stoop to that level.

[LongHeroscaper]

LongScaper, I should hire you for marketing.

I'm working on a box where the lid folds down to sit along the side of the box, and the inside is big enough to hold HS cards and dice and figs, and then you take everything out and it's padded inside so you can roll in the box.

Not sure if it will be ready by October, though. So roll in a cigar box until then.

You need to apply an H1 visa for me. I need health insurance for myself and my wife. I need 6 weeks of vacation each year and after 5 year, I need 6 months leave in absence. I need an office with window, a budget big enough that I can buy twice as much Heroscape as you do. :twisted:
Seriously, I've had the idea of a box with several compartments like yours for a while, but the problem I have is whether it can store the huge figures. If the box is too big, it's not portable to carry around, if it's too small, you have to sell the box with a saw and some glue for people to cut their huge figures to put in the box and glue them back when they play. Oh well, I am not Man Genius, so who I am to say :) .

[Grungebob]

After the last team tourney we had I heartily agree. I simply do NOT want to play with folks that refuse to roll their dice fairly.
Your solution of using disposable bowls and cups is the perfect way to solve this issue. I think this needs to be official for ALL tournaments from this day forward.
Okay, wait a minute...
Rolling dice on a tabletop is rolling dice unfairly?
:wink:
As long as it's understood when a die should be rerolled (as in falling off the table or being cocked), I really don't understand why rolling dice on a table is a problem.
Or I guess I should say it hasn't (yet) been a problem in my 40+ years of gaming.
KevinI hate when a player rolls his dice right into a bunch of his idle dice thus making it impossible to tell which are which.

[underling]

You haven't seen anyone "setting" dice rather than rolling them then? Count yourself as lucky. If you don't believe it then I invoke the name of LilNewbie - my partner in that tourney - to back me up. We both could not believe what we were seeing and though we should have been more vocal about our objections we just honestly couldn't believe that someone would stoop to that level.
Not and be seriously trying to get away with it. :D
In my gaming circle up here if anyone tried to do that they'd be mocked into oblivion. Which is some fairly serious mocking, I might add.
We also have guys who definitely play to win, but who also don't want there to be any doubt about the legitimacy of a dice roll.
We have an unspoken rule (and it probably actually has been spoken on numerous occasions) that for a dice to count as being rolled it has to be lying flat on a flat surface on the table. And typically I like to keep dice out of terrain features. No cocked dice, dice off the table, or dice that haven't been rolled... count. :wink:
Kevin

[Cavalier]

You haven't seen anyone "setting" dice rather than rolling them then? Count yourself as lucky. If you don't believe it then I invoke the name of LilNewbie - my partner in that tourney - to back me up. We both could not believe what we were seeing and though we should have been more vocal about our objections we just honestly couldn't believe that someone would stoop to that level.
Not and be seriously trying to get away with it. :D
In my gaming circle up here if anyone tried to do that they'd be mocked into oblivion. Which is some fairly serious mocking, I might add.
We also have guys who definitely play to win, but who also don't want there to be any doubt about the legitimacy of a dice roll.
We have an unspoken rule (and it probably actually has been spoken on numerous occasions) that for a dice to count as being rolled it has to be lying flat on a flat surface on the table. And typically I like to keep dice out of terrain features. No cocked dice, dice off the table, or dice that haven't been rolled... count. :wink:
KevinAnd all of this is solved by Towers, boxes or bowls...that's all that's being said. And I too have dealt with th one at a time or roll into the map or re-roll every roll because the dice go everywhere. I am a proponent of towers and the like.

[markwars]

And if there is a standard and EVERYONE knows about about it then it isn't a problem. A player can simply say, you need to roll those dice with that cup into that bowl....simple.

[underling]

And if there is a standard and EVERYONE knows about about it then it isn't a problem. A player can simply say, you need to roll those dice with that cup into that bowl....simple.
I guess I'm just not on board with dictating exactly how players should dice.
That seems to me to be a little... totalitarianistic.
I prefer to roll my dice old school.
;)
Kevin

[LongHeroscaper]

And if there is a standard and EVERYONE knows about about it then it isn't a problem. A player can simply say, you need to roll those dice with that cup into that bowl....simple.

That is the envision I have :) . Everyone should see this as a standard.

[markwars]

And if there is a standard and EVERYONE knows about about it then it isn't a problem. A player can simply say, you need to roll those dice with that cup into that bowl....simple.
I guess I'm just not on board with dictating exactly how players should dice.
That seems to me to be a little... totalitarianistic.
I prefer to roll my dice old school.
;)
Kevin

And in a circle of friends that is acceptable. But when you have a tournament with 40+ people from all over the place you need to standardize things. Why? Because if some idiot does try to cheat then there is an accepted way to deal with them without making anyone look like a poor sport or a "bad guy". Without any rule in place there is no empowerment of the tourney participants.

I wish we lived in a world where this kind of thing wasn't necessary, but many at the Team Tourney in DFW would/did agree that this was most certainly a problem.

[LongHeroscaper]

And if there is a standard and EVERYONE knows about about it then it isn't a problem. A player can simply say, you need to roll those dice with that cup into that bowl....simple.
I guess I'm just not on board with dictating exactly how players should dice.
That seems to me to be a little... totalitarianistic.
I prefer to roll my dice old school.
;)
Kevin

When you play at your house, you can do whatever you want. In a tournament, however, there should be rules and standards. Same with chess, in official tournament, once you touch a piece, you have to move it or capture it (if it's an opponent's piece). At home, you can pick one piece up, kiss it, throw it to the back yard, have your dog take it back, wash it, put it down back to its position without any penalty :) .

About rolling on the table, as long as the person does not intend to cheat, that's fine with me. Shake the dice well in your hand(s) and roll the dice without looking them first, then you are ok. The point is, you don't know if the person you play with is trying to cheat or not.

By the way, just being curious, is rolling your dice old school rolling them on the table? My old school way of rolling dice is in a ceramic bowl.

[LilNewbie]

After the last team tourney we had I heartily agree. I simply do NOT want to play with folks that refuse to roll their dice fairly.
Your solution of using disposable bowls and cups is the perfect way to solve this issue. I think this needs to be official for ALL tournaments from this day forward.
Okay, wait a minute...
Rolling dice on a tabletop is rolling dice unfairly?
:wink:
As long as it's understood when a die should be rerolled (as in falling off the table or being cocked), I really don't understand why rolling dice on a table is a problem.
Or I guess I should say it hasn't (yet) been a problem in my 40+ years of gaming.
Kevin

You haven't seen anyone "setting" dice rather than rolling them then? Count yourself as lucky. If you don't believe it then I invoke the name of LilNewbie - my partner in that tourney - to back me up. We both could not believe what we were seeing and though we should have been more vocal about our objections we just honestly couldn't believe that someone would stoop to that level.

What Markwars says is true. I think we didn't say anything due to our shock that someone would do such a thing but looking back now we should have put the kabosh on it and I will next time someone pulls a lame stunt like that.

Newb.

[Rÿchean]

I would have started "rolling" the dice if you guys just would have said something. I had no idea I was being so offensive with my die selecting tactic.

[underling]

And in a circle of friends that is acceptable. But when you have a tournament with 40+ people from all over the place you need to standardize things. Why? Because if some idiot does try to cheat then there is an accepted way to deal with them without making anyone look like a poor sport or a "bad guy". Without any rule in place there is no empowerment of the tourney participants.
I wish we lived in a world where this kind of thing wasn't necessary, but many at the Team Tourney in DFW would/did agree that this was most certainly a problem.
That's really very sad. I mean very sad.
A lot of guys up here attend GW Rogue Trader tournaments, and those are about as competitive as it gets. I haven't ever heard any of them complaining about dice rolling techniques.
Now there may have been other complaints, such as cheesy force composition, fudging movement rates, etc...
But certainly no complaints about dice rolling techniques.
Sheesh...
What's wrong with you guys down there?
:lol:
Kevin

[markwars]

It's simple. We like dice towers. And we like them for several reasons.

[markwars]

I would have started "rolling" the dice if you guys just would have said something. I had no idea I was being so offensive with my die selecting tactic.

This had me busting a gut. The idea that you would actually roll dice is hilarious. I thought all you did was stall games. :P

[Rÿchean]

:? :headshake:

so now, NOW, NOW, we finally get to the crux of the matter; I see how it is.

[markwars]

It's hilarious that somehow your analytical approach has morphed in public perception to a stall technique. :P

I will honestly say that for years we've been teasing Ry about analyzing EVERY single possible permutation, but he generally does it within the normal constraints of time.

[Rÿchean]

no...I am pretty much stalling. Anything it takes to get a win. It is all that matters to me. Friends? bah! who needs them? Just show me the tables so I can start kicking arse and taking prizes.

Fumble dice to delay? check! Bring two 3's instead of an X for markers? check! Play the loaded D20 I bought? check! play rats to delay the game? check!

All about the Ws, baby.

[Revdyer]

So I guess this means you didn't REALLY need to go to the bathroom when we played, huh? I will say, you are a VERY good actor, though! :lol:

[hex706f726368]

Bring two 3's instead of an X for markers? check!

I never thought of this, you are a genius. :evil:

[Rÿchean]

Yeah, people keep telling me that. :twisted:

[Jonathan]

no...I am pretty much stalling.

I thought you were just really casual.


:cry:

[underling]

By the way, just being curious, is rolling your dice old school rolling them on the table? My old school way of rolling dice is in a ceramic bowl.
I guess everyone's opinion of old school is going to vary. :wink:
But mine is picking up the dice in my sweaty little hands, shaking them to hear the clickety clack of the dice, and then rolling them out on the table.
No towers...
No cups...
No bowls...
No just laying them down...
You know...
Old school.
Should I do my grumpy old man imitation now?
:D
Kevin

[LongHeroscaper]

By the way, just being curious, is rolling your dice old school rolling them on the table? My old school way of rolling dice is in a ceramic bowl.
I guess everyone's opinion of old school is going to vary. :wink:
But mine is picking up the dice in my sweaty little hands, shaking them to hear the clickety clack of the dice, and then rolling them out on the table.
No towers...
No cups...
No bowls...
No just laying them down...
You know...
Old school.
Should I do my grumpy old man imitation now?
:D
Kevin

:D
I grew up rolling dice in a ceramic bowl. I think the first time I rolled dice was when I played a game similar to Sorry! (many many years ago). And I've rolled dice in a bowl since then. Recently I found out about dice tower and occasionally use one of IMax made. Anyway, I think this may not be the appropriate thread to discuss about how we roll dice :) .

[Grungebob]

And in a circle of friends that is acceptable. But when you have a tournament with 40+ people from all over the place you need to standardize things. Why? Because if some idiot does try to cheat then there is an accepted way to deal with them without making anyone look like a poor sport or a "bad guy". Without any rule in place there is no empowerment of the tourney participants.
I wish we lived in a world where this kind of thing wasn't necessary, but many at the Team Tourney in DFW would/did agree that this was most certainly a problem.
That's really very sad. I mean very sad.
A lot of guys up here attend GW Rogue Trader tournaments, and those are about as competitive as it gets. I haven't ever heard any of them complaining about dice rolling techniques.
Now there may have been other complaints, such as cheesy force composition, fudging movement rates, etc...
But certainly no complaints about dice rolling techniques.
Sheesh...
What's wrong with you guys down there?
:lol:
Kevin

Cheesy force composition, fudging movement rates???!!!! What's wrong with you guys up there!!

[underling]

Cheesy force composition, fudging movement rates???!!!! What's wrong with you guys up there!!
Hey, we don't do any of those things up here.
The guys have noticed those things when they've gone to other places.
:D
Kevin

[TheRealQ]

I want to be there. My son has a karate tournament in October. If it is any day other than the 20th then I'll be there. He enjoys the tournaments so if I come so will he. Plus, I promised Dr. Weirdscaper that I would take him with me to the next DFW tourney.

If there are others in the Austin area that want to go perhaps we can caravan. Otherwise I'll save a space in my car for geddy lifeson if he can go, that way he only has to drive two hours (one way) and can simply ride the rest...unless we need extra room for materials.

Be forwarned though...if I come I'm coming to win. (unless my dice hate me)

P.S. my first custom landscape will be done and I'll get to give it away as a prize

[wisinger]

I want to be there. My son has a karate tournament in October. If it is any day other than the 20th then I'll be there. He enjoys the tournaments so if I come so will he. Plus, I promised Dr. Weirdscaper that I would take him with me to the next DFW tourney.

If there are others in the Austin area that want to go perhaps we can caravan. Otherwise I'll save a space in my car for geddy lifeson if he can go, that way he only has to drive two hours (one way) and can simply ride the rest...unless we need extra room for materials.

Be forwarned though...if I come I'm coming to win. (unless my dice hate me)

P.S. my first custom landscape will be done and I'll get to give it away as a prize

got you, your son, and the weird doctor under the maybe

[Cavalier]

By the way, just being curious, is rolling your dice old school rolling them on the table? My old school way of rolling dice is in a ceramic bowl.
I guess everyone's opinion of old school is going to vary. :wink:
But mine is picking up the dice in my sweaty little hands, shaking them to hear the clickety clack of the dice, and then rolling them out on the table.
No towers...
No cups...
No bowls...
No just laying them down...
You know...
Old school.
Should I do my grumpy old man imitation now?
:D
Kevin
Of course, since Dice Towers were first used in the Roman Emire, I think they qualify as old school :wink:

[AmishBurrito]

Add me down on the maybe list, I am doing whatever the rest of the Houston group is doing.

[Velenne]

Add me down on the maybe list, I am doing whatever the rest of the Houston group is doing.

The whole Houston group is coming?

Hmm.... anyone got a van and a few rolls of duct tape? :twisted: :twisted:

[noodles]

Can somebody PM me an address for this tourney. I'd like to calculate the driving time.

[Rÿchean]

PM sent

[funrun]

While we are talking dice rolling rules, we need to specify that you must NOT roll a partial number of dice, note that you didn't get enough skulls/shields, and then roll the rest of the dice into the ones that have already been rolled!

Usually at least one of the original dice get flipped into something new, hence its like you rerolled some of them. This is essentially cheating IMO. This rule applies to all types of rolling: towers, bowls, tables, etc.

[LongHeroscaper]

While we are talking dice rolling rules, we need to specify that you must NOT roll a partial number of dice, note that you didn't get enough skulls/shields, and then roll the rest of the dice into the ones that have already been rolled!

Usually at least one of the original dice get flipped into something new, hence its like you rerolled some of them. This is essentially cheating IMO. This rule applies to all types of rolling: towers, bowls, tables, etc.

That IS cheating! I've never seen anyone did it, though. But I guess you have.

[Rÿchean]

Agreed; all dice at once or not at all.

[funrun]

It's not that all dice absolutely have to roll at once, just don't roll the first batch into the other batch. Rolling in spurts is highly annoying, but there are valid reasons you may not be able to roll all dice at once: sharing dice with opponent, didn't bring enough, too many bonus dice to add, etc.

[Finrod]

Add me down on the maybe list, I am doing whatever the rest of the Houston group is doing.

The whole Houston group is coming?

We don't know. We're discussing it over in the Houston thread. Some of us will be there, at least. Could be two. Could be five or six. Who knows?

[Grungebob]

Any word from JGilligan's about Oct 20th?

[wisinger]

Can somebody PM me an address for this tourney. I'd like to calculate the driving time.

Umm, got you into a category all to yourself :P. Hope you can make it

[markwars]

While we are talking dice rolling rules, we need to specify that you must NOT roll a partial number of dice, note that you didn't get enough skulls/shields, and then roll the rest of the dice into the ones that have already been rolled!

Usually at least one of the original dice get flipped into something new, hence its like you rerolled some of them. This is essentially cheating IMO. This rule applies to all types of rolling: towers, bowls, tables, etc.

Amen! We need to come up with some sort of dice rolling Magna Carta and that needs to be included.

[UranusPChicago]

From another thread... http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=11336

I distract my opponent by pointing at something behind them before making an important roll. While their back is turned, I place the dice on the table with the sides facing up that I needed for that roll. When they turn back around I say that I must have been mistaken about the "thing" behind them then I feign amazement at the result of my roll. Is this considered cheating?

[markwars]

Now you're just asking for a noogie. :P

[underling]

Amen! We need to come up with some sort of dice rolling Magna Carta and that needs to be included.
Oh puh-leeze...
It's Friday, and I'm looking forward to the long weekend.
Don't get me started on this "non-topic."
:D
Kevin
PS: All you have to do is give the players the ability to police themselves. If someone's not rolling the dice correctly (or in other words trying to cheat), you just slap the crap out of them. Problem resolved. :wink:
*sigh*
PSS: And yes, if I make it down to Dallas for the October fun-fest, I promise to bring a bowl... :D

[funrun]

We have sort of derailed this thread on the dice discussion, and I do think we are at a point where dice rules should be in place as a fall-back for disputes. Without further ado, I present this thread:

The Dice-Rolling Magna Carta (http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=11728)


:P

[InfinityMax]

I can't get a definite answer on Gilligan's. Some radio station wanted the room that day, and the owner was supposed to call me back, but he hasn't and I can't get him to answer the phone.

I guess since I can't nail down the venue, go ahead and see if we can book something else. I really like the Draft House, but it doesn't look good.

[markwars]

Bummer. :(

[DFlynSqrl]

Well, I'm dropping out of this tournament. I think the competition level has far exceeded my like for the game.

By the time the tournament starts we'll be rolling dice and moving our figures through some Rube Goldberg device, while wearing an environmental suit, bringing only prizes pre-approved by a committee (submissions and pictures of the prize must be sent 14 days prior to the start of the tournament) and if you don't read the forum 1 hour before the tournament to find out the password then you won't be allowed in the room.

Yeah, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's feeling more and more like that each tournament for me.

[Jonathan]

Well, I'm dropping out of this tournament. I think the competition level has far exceeded my like for the game.

By the time the tournament starts we'll be rolling dice and moving our figures through some Rube Goldberg device, while wearing an environmental suit, bringing only prizes pre-approved by a committee (submissions and pictures of the prize must be sent 14 days prior to the start of the tournament) and if you don't read the forum 1 hour before the tournament to find out the password then you won't be allowed in the room.

Yeah, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's feeling more and more like that each tournament for me.

Are you serious?

:cry:

We can roll our dice together in a bucket of tears, mourning the loss of our dear tabletop. C'mon, it'll be fun! :D

[Rÿchean]

DFS? I assure you it is still all about playing games and having fun. Please have some fun with us.

[Revdyer]

Sqrl, I think there are enough of us crazies around that we will NOT let the Texas shoot out become an ego-driven tourament of the lowest sort. I'm going to make sure that does not happen. I hope to see you there. Anyone who wants to turn HeroScape into a pay-per-view contest is just plain stupid.

[geddy lifeson]

DFS, I would hate to see people decide not to come. With people like me coming with the sole idea of having fun, winning is far from being my only reason for attending. I guess that has a lot to do with my sucking at playing. Besides I would like to have a possible 1-on-1 against you after getting the chance to play you last year with ninth and Aldin.

[funrun]

Well, I'm dropping out of this tournament. I think the competition level has far exceeded my like for the game.

By the time the tournament starts we'll be rolling dice and moving our figures through some Rube Goldberg device, while wearing an environmental suit, bringing only prizes pre-approved by a committee (submissions and pictures of the prize must be sent 14 days prior to the start of the tournament) and if you don't read the forum 1 hour before the tournament to find out the password then you won't be allowed in the room.

Yeah, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's feeling more and more like that each tournament for me.
Wow man, I think you've misinterpreted the purpose of having rules. :( As far as I'm concerned most people will play on as they always have. It's not like you have to have a dice-rolling step-by-step at every table. Most people already do these steps without even thinking. The difference now is that when a judgement call needs to be made, it will be based on well-thought out rules agreed upon in advance. More defined rules are a bi-product of Heroscape events attracting many people with different intrepretations of how to do things. More people is a good thing right?

[Grungebob]

Well, I'm dropping out of this tournament. I think the competition level has far exceeded my like for the game.

By the time the tournament starts we'll be rolling dice and moving our figures through some Rube Goldberg device, while wearing an environmental suit, bringing only prizes pre-approved by a committee (submissions and pictures of the prize must be sent 14 days prior to the start of the tournament) and if you don't read the forum 1 hour before the tournament to find out the password then you won't be allowed in the room.

Yeah, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's feeling more and more like that each tournament for me.You wanna drop out that's fine we'll miss you!! But please don't blame it on our silly dice chit chat or the tourney format. It's still the same ol crew with the same ol game. The format won't make any diference to your play unless you are the one directing it, and the dice rolling discussion is toungue in cheeck.

[Liam_l]

Well, I'm dropping out of this tournament...

"YEAH, I AM STORMING OUT!!!" , as a person I know would say, luckily I am not him.

*clear throat* Put me down for the tournament my lady, or sire. (to whomever is in charge)

P.S. As long as I could dance, I have no problem with the dice rulings. ^_<

[Grungebob]

Well, I'm dropping out of this tournament...

"YEAH, I AM STORMING OUT!!!" , as a person I know would say, luckily I am not him.

*clear throat* Put me down for the tournament my lady, or sire. (to whomever is in charge)

P.S. As long as I could dance, I have no problem with the dice rulings. ^_<OK, new ruling!!! No dancing!! :lol:

[Velenne]

Well, I'm dropping out of this tournament...

"YEAH, I AM STORMING OUT!!!" , as a person I know would say, luckily I am not him.

*clear throat* Put me down for the tournament my lady, or sire. (to whomever is in charge)

P.S. As long as I could dance, I have no problem with the dice rulings. ^_<OK, new ruling!!! No dancing!! :lol:

But Imax and I have been practicing our moves for weeks now!

And he looks so precious in his fancy hat.... :twisted: :whistle:

[wisinger]

Updated. :(. Hope that you change your mind Sql, hope to see you there.

[Jonathan]

Any thoughts on maps?

[Annerios]

Is there a limit on the number of common squads that can be fielded (other than the army deployment area size limitation)?

[Rÿchean]

Is there a limit on the number of common squads that can be fielded (other than the army deployment area size limitation)?
Army size will only be limited by the agreed upon number of starting hexes.
Any thoughts on maps?
I have a thought: I ain't lifting a finger this time around. ;-)

I say we go for a wide assortment like at Gencon.

http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=9511&start=0

Highways and Dieways is good.
Klomar's Traning ground 7 works nicely.
The modifications to Ashonqurk Fields worked well in my opinion.
Island conflict seemed to get good feedback.

I would not recommend Arctic Divide because we have all seen that map enough. Spring Thaw would probably need some augment. Molten Ground and Hot Heights played ok though I wouldn't call either of them a great map.

And my personal favorite that doesn't get any respect:

Ruins of Pinetree Marsh :-D
http://www.heroscapers.com/download/downloads//Ruins_of_Pinetree_Marsh.jpg
download (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=464)

[Revdyer]

I hadn't seen that map before, Ry. Looks like it was designed for rats <grin>.

I'm building it for our next game day (Sept. 19). I like it.

[Velenne]

Any thoughts on maps?

If you didn't know, 1.36 of Virtualscape (http://didier.paradis.free.fr/virtualscape/english/index_fichiers/Page385.htm) is out now which includes SotM and Marvel terrain. While the use of Marvelscape figs was nixed, I wouldn't mind seeing some of the terrain (especially the breakable wall) used. Of course we must have a swamp map. I'm currently working on one.

[UranusPChicago]

Any thoughts on maps?

I have one that I have been testing the past couple weeks. I will try to post it tonight and throw it to the wolves... :lol:

[Finrod]

Of course we must have a swamp map.

I agree. We should also have at least one map that incorporates castle parts, IMHO.

[Velenne]

I've got one of those (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=287270#312469) I'm hoping will see play in a standard tourney. I've modified the ruins up top a bit to cover the road approach better from larger (ie dragon) figs standing up there.

[Sweetcurse]

I think it's safe to say that I'm going for sure. I think the same goes for Chuckrock but probably better to wait for him to say so.

[Chuckrock]

Yeah it's 90%. Looks like it'll be a guys weekend.

Still have to wait on family stuff, but 90% is a good way to say it.

[UranusPChicago]

Here is a jpg of Spring In The Air.

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/SpringInTheAir.jpg

I will upload the pdf momentarily.

[Jonathan]

That looks cool, UPC. And I personally think Pine Tree is a great map, Ry (just so you know :cheer: ).

[Chuckrock]

IT certainly uses everything. I think any of the maps are great, heck you guys seem to supply the maps we end up using in our tournaments.

[Focus]

Hate the no dancing rule...... is kicking allowed???? I would like to sign up though, and this time will let it be know if something important keeps me from going.

[InfinityMax]

Sqrl, don't be lame. It's not going to be any more or less competitive than any other tournament (OK, it will probably be more competitive than the Worst Army tourney).

I am only going to play some games and see some friends. If I end up playing someone I think is a bad sport, I'm going to concede. If I end up playing someone I really dislike, I'm going to concede. If I end up playing someone who won't quit dancing and keeps screaming SOLID TWO!! I'm going to concede.

I'm going to the tournament to have fun, and that's it. And any rules that irritate me, I'm going to ignore. I'll be rolling in... well, something, because I have some stuff I'm working on, so I don't know if I'm bringing a dice tower. But I'm certainly not going to demand that my opponents roll in something. That's silly.

But it is really too bad that we couldn't get Gilligan's. Some retard radio station reserved the room that day.

[Jonathan]

1. SOLID THREE!!!

:wink:

2. That comic shop next to J. Gilligan's seemed to have a really big game room in the back. Has anyone ever used it for something of this size? Is that even a viable option?

[Revdyer]

Is the location of the tourney chosen yet? I ask because of the need to get a room nearby. Thanks.

[Velenne]

1. SOLID THREE!!!

:wink:

2. That comic shop next to J. Gilligan's seemed to have a really big game room in the back. Has anyone ever used it for something of this size? Is that even a viable option?

That the Lone Star comics in Arlington?

[Grungebob]

Is the location of the tourney chosen yet? I ask because of the need to get a room nearby. Thanks.Waiting for a response from my club house contact. Will know soon enough.

[Revdyer]

Is the location of the tourney chosen yet? I ask because of the need to get a room nearby. Thanks.Waiting for a response from my club house contact. Will know soon enough.Thanks, GB.

[InfinityMax]

That's Lone Star Comics, and no freaking way are we doing it there. There might be room (there's not) but it's always overrun on weekends.

[Grungebob]

Is the location of the tourney chosen yet? I ask because of the need to get a room nearby. Thanks.Waiting for a response from my club house contact. Will know soon enough.Thanks, GB.Just so we are aware that the table situation at my clubhouse is somewhat unkown at this time. It is a nice place roughly the same size as the one that the Wisingers have access to, I have scoped out that they do have folding chairs and tables, I just don't know for sure how many etc. The great part is that it is central to everything around the DFW area, has great parking, a full kitchen... It's a nice place.

[Finrod]

InfinityMax[/b]]I don't know if I'm bringing a dice tower.


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

[LongHeroscaper]

InfinityMax[/b]]I don't know if I'm bringing a dice tower.


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I actually am looking forward to this. InfinityMax (the name does not make any mathematical sense, BTW :) ) is designing a box that can store cards, dice, wound markers, order markers and figures to bring to a tournament, and when it's emptied, it can be used to roll the dice in. I think he will bring the box to the tourney!

[Grungebob]

InfinityMax (the name does not make any mathematical sense, BTW :) :gb: Only you would think of that brainiac :gb: ) is designing a box that can store cards, dice, wound markers, order markers and figures to bring to a tournament, and when it's emptied, it can be used to roll the dice in. I think he will bring the box to the tourney!The only thing is that it is not water proof so you can't use it as a beer pitcher.

[Velenne]

InfinityMax (the name does not make any mathematical sense, BTW :) :gb: Only you would think of that brainiac :gb: ) is designing a box that can store cards, dice, wound markers, order markers and figures to bring to a tournament, and when it's emptied, it can be used to roll the dice in. I think he will bring the box to the tourney!The only thing is that it is not water proof so you can't use it as a beer pitcher.

Does it have room for my voodoo dolls?

[Finrod]

InfinityMax[/b]]I don't know if I'm bringing a dice tower.


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I actually am looking forward to this. InfinityMax (the name does not make any mathematical sense, BTW :) ) is designing a box that can store cards, dice, wound markers, order markers and figures to bring to a tournament, and when it's emptied, it can be used to roll the dice in. I think he will bring the box to the tourney!

oooohhhh....

Had me worried for a minute there.

[markwars]

Well, I'm dropping out of this tournament. I think the competition level has far exceeded my like for the game.

By the time the tournament starts we'll be rolling dice and moving our figures through some Rube Goldberg device, while wearing an environmental suit, bringing only prizes pre-approved by a committee (submissions and pictures of the prize must be sent 14 days prior to the start of the tournament) and if you don't read the forum 1 hour before the tournament to find out the password then you won't be allowed in the room.

Yeah, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's feeling more and more like that each tournament for me.

I just want everyone to know that I will be dragging the Flying Squirrel to this tourney. He might try to play it with Rezolution figures, but just humor him.

[Grungebob]

Just talked to the director of party bookings at my club. The clubhouse is available (90% sure) on Oct 20th. The director is new and could not quote me a price and could not tell me how many chairs and tables are available. Will be getting back to me within 48 hours. Sorry guys about this delay. If the Wisingers want to move forward with this, I understand.

[Bixby]

Sorry guys,
Take my name off the maybe list. Not going to be able to swing it this time. Have a gooder...
...Matt

[Liam_l]

1. SOLID THREE!!!


Excuse me sir, but it's SOLID TWO!!, thank you very much :P

[Cavalier]

1. SOLID THREE!!!


Excuse me sir, but it's SOLID TWO!!, thank you very much :P


I am only going to play some games and see some friends. If I end up playing someone I think is a bad sport, I'm going to concede. If I end up playing someone I really dislike, I'm going to concede. If I end up playing someone who won't quit dancing and keeps screaming SOLID TWO!! I'm going to concede..I don't think IMax should conceed, rather eliminate that player from the tourny all together. :twisted:

[Jonathan]

1. SOLID THREE!!!

:wink:

2. That comic shop next to J. Gilligan's seemed to have a really big game room in the back. Has anyone ever used it for something of this size? Is that even a viable option?

That the Lone Star comics in Arlington?

Yup! If it's free, it might be a better alternative, but I'm on the visiting team so I'll set up my locker room anywhere :D

[wisinger]

Just talked to the director of party bookings at my club. The clubhouse is available (90% sure) on Oct 20th. The director is new and could not quote me a price and could not tell me how many chairs and tables are available. Will be getting back to me within 48 hours. Sorry guys about this delay. If the Wisingers want to move forward with this, I understand.

It is up to everyone else. I don't mind setting up and coordinating with our club house in StoneBridge. I did confirm that the room is currently booked until 2:00PM on the 20th, so we wouldn't be able to start at high noon like we have in the past.

If there is a need, I can book it, please advise.

[UranusPChicago]

Spring In The Air (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/index.php?dlid=804) has been approved and is ready for download. Please take a look if you guys get a chance.

It uses less than 1 MS, 1 FF and 1 Tundra. BTW, your figures will not have to worry about any fears of heights they may have. :lol:

[Velenne]

Heavy/slippery or what?

[UranusPChicago]

Heavy/slippery or what?

I have been playing it as light snow/ice; the glaciers for line of sight blockage and the snow and ice for cosmetic purposes only.

I am open for suggestions though.

[Chuckrock]

Just as a matter of concern....
How many can J Giligans hold?

[wisinger]

Just as a matter of concern....
How many can J Giligans hold?

Looks like the venue is changing, to either a community club house around GBOB's house or possiblly one around mine, waiting to hear back from GBOB.

[InfinityMax]

I actually am looking forward to this. InfinityMax (the name does not make any mathematical sense, BTW :) ) is designing a box that can store cards, dice, wound markers, order markers and figures to bring to a tournament, and when it's emptied, it can be used to roll the dice in. I think he will bring the box to the tourney!

On the name - you're the first person who has ever noted that. I made the name to be ironic, and then nobody ever noticed. It's completely validating that someone finally spotted it.

I think I'm bringing an early prototype of that box, but I'm having some issues because it's too deep and has a slight tendency to hide the dice rolls. I want it more shallow, but that's proving tricky given the way the lid opens.

On the other hand, I may just bring the coolest dice tower in the world, which CupidsArt made for me.

[markwars]

I actually am looking forward to this. InfinityMax (the name does not make any mathematical sense, BTW :) ) is designing a box that can store cards, dice, wound markers, order markers and figures to bring to a tournament, and when it's emptied, it can be used to roll the dice in. I think he will bring the box to the tourney!

On the name - you're the first person who has ever noted that. I made the name to be ironic, and then nobody ever noticed. It's completely validating that someone finally spotted it.

We can't all be Man Geniuses you know. :oops:

[Chuckrock]

Does that mean the venue is changing from Arlington to North Dallas? I hope not.

[Cavalier]

Does that mean the venue is changing from Arlington to North Dallas? I hope not.It appears that that is the case.

[Chuckrock]

To bad. I know when I lived in Arlington, UTA was a good place for events, but it's been a while. I really liked the idea of beer and heroscape. Bummer

I suppose a cooler would suffice.

[InfinityMax]

Chuck, that's best-case-scenario. Worst case, we're in McKinney, which is like 90 minutes from Arlington.

[Rÿchean]

If it is at GBob's clubhouse...

Just so we are aware that the table situation at my clubhouse is somewhat unkown at this time. It is a nice place roughly the same size as the one that the Wisingers have access to, I have scoped out that they do have folding chairs and tables, I just don't know for sure how many etc. The great part is that it is central to everything around the DFW area, has great parking, a full kitchen... It's a nice place.

FULL Kitchen = refrigerator = cold beer!

[Velenne]

KRUG LIKE COLD BEER!!

[Chuckrock]

Chuck, that's best-case-scenario. Worst case, we're in McKinney, which is like 90 minutes from Arlington.

Yep, Mckinney is closer to Oklahoma than it is to Arlington isn't it? :D

[Revdyer]

Chuck, that's best-case-scenario. Worst case, we're in McKinney, which is like 90 minutes from Arlington.

Yep, Mckinney is closer to Oklahoma than it is to Arlington isn't it? :DI only got lost once in North Texas looking for McKinney after midnight with no place open to ask and no map to help (okay, that was my fault for depending on Mapquest).

[Rÿchean]

Maps: uh.....ok

we need about 20 maps total. It would be good to have a large pool of maps. As in 10 different maps built twice each.

I think UPC's map looks like it will fit our needs.

Spring In The Air - 1 MS, 1 TT, 1 RTFF

We should get more that are multiple types of expansion terrain. Swarm being sort of an expansion.

1 MS, 1 RTFF, 1 Swarm
1 MS, 1 Lava, 1 Swarm

I haven't tried Longheroscaper's Broken Skyline (http://www.heroscapers.com/download/?dlid=802) yet, but it seems like a good play:
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/The_Broken_Skyline.JPG

Hunkered and Bunkered is quite interesting:
http://www.heroscapers.com/download/downloads//Hunkered_and_Bunkered.jpg
http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/Hunkered_and_Bunkered_-_reverse.jpg

[Revdyer]

I've played Broken Skyline, but only against the author/builder. It was a good play. I got trounced....twice.

[InfinityMax]

Yep, Mckinney is closer to Oklahoma than it is to Arlington isn't it? :D

Yeah. It's a REALLY long ways from my house. Of course, it's not as far as some people go, but I really wish we had been able to reserve Gilligan's. God knows I tried. I really like the five minute drive versus the 90 minute drive.

[wisinger]

Yep, Mckinney is closer to Oklahoma than it is to Arlington isn't it? :D

Yeah. It's a REALLY long ways from my house. Of course, it's not as far as some people go, but I really wish we had been able to reserve Gilligan's. God knows I tried. I really like the five minute drive versus the 90 minute drive.

We do have the McKinney Municipal airport here, and it is only 10 minutes from the club house >:)

*Sigh* now I am starting to feel bad about living here. I really like it, but if my friends don't like the drive...

And I am guessing if the decision is to go here, that the start time moving to #:00ish (an hour for set up I am guessing), isn't going to help me win any friends over

[LongHeroscaper]

I've played Broken Skyline, but only against the author/builder. It was a good play. I got trounced....twice.

It was because you played the monks and Master Woo for the first time and you (and I) forgot the boosting from Master Woo many times.
But we covered different portions of the map with different plays each time, which is good :) .

[LongHeroscaper]

I actually am looking forward to this. InfinityMax (the name does not make any mathematical sense, BTW :) ) is designing a box that can store cards, dice, wound markers, order markers and figures to bring to a tournament, and when it's emptied, it can be used to roll the dice in. I think he will bring the box to the tourney!

On the name - you're the first person who has ever noted that. I made the name to be ironic, and then nobody ever noticed. It's completely validating that someone finally spotted it.

I think I'm bringing an early prototype of that box, but I'm having some issues because it's too deep and has a slight tendency to hide the dice rolls. I want it more shallow, but that's proving tricky given the way the lid opens.

On the other hand, I may just bring the coolest dice tower in the world, which CupidsArt made for me.

IMax, may I suggest to use the cover of the box to roll the dice? I think I would prefer it that way because when I go to some place else to play, I usually bring more than 1 army. When I play, I use one army and leave the other units in the box (with the cards and some extra dice). The box then will not be available to roll the dice in. The cover would be a better candidate for that. It also shows the dice better.

[Velenne]

In case anyone plans to try Hunkered and Bunkered, I've modified the ruins based on previous feedback. They should now be placed atop the bunker like so:

http://www.heroscapers.com/oldgallery/albums/userpics/Bunkered_and_Hunkered.jpg

[aahzmandius]

In case anyone plans to try Hunkered and Bunkered, I've modified the ruins based on previous feedback. They should now be placed atop the bunker like so:

Oooh...I like it...now you can get dragons up top that can see down below :)

(most 2-hex figs would fit before, but it was a tight squeeze - dragons wouldn't, because their wings wouldn't clear the ruins)

--Aahz

[InfinityMax]

IMax, may I suggest to use the cover of the box to roll the dice? I think I would prefer it that way because when I go to some place else to play, I usually bring more than 1 army. When I play, I use one army and leave the other units in the box (with the cards and some extra dice). The box then will not be available to roll the dice in. The cover would be a better candidate for that. It also shows the dice better.

You can't use the lid, because it's flat. I'm trying for a design that conserves table space, so I've been figuring out a way to have the lid just basically vanish. I might consider a box where you lift off the lid, flip it over and seat it onto the box for your tray.

But honestly, I'll probably just use a dice tower. I am kind of a fan.

[Finrod]

*Sigh* now I am starting to feel bad about living here. I really like it, but if my friends don't like the drive...

And I am guessing if the decision is to go here, that the start time moving to #:00ish (an hour for set up I am guessing), isn't going to help me win any friends over

Um... yea. If the drive from Houston is even longer, AND the start time is later... I probably won't be coming. I have to drive BACK that night for Sunday morning responsibilities.

[Jonathan]

The last tourney you drove to was in McKinney, Finrod - unless that drive was too long :D

[Finrod]

The last tourney you drove to was in McKinney, Finrod - unless that drive was too long :D

Pfft. You expect me to remember all those dinky suburbs of Dallas?

Seriously, though... :oops:

[Rÿchean]

Should we start looking at other venue options?

[funrun]

Maps: uh.....ok

we need about 20 maps total. It would be good to have a large pool of maps. As in 10 different maps built twice each.

I think UPC's map looks like it will fit our needs.

Spring In The Air - 1 MS, 1 TT, 1 RTFF

We should get more that are multiple types of expansion terrain. Swarm being sort of an expansion.

1 MS, 1 RTFF, 1 Swarm
1 MS, 1 Lava, 1 Swarm
Um, what happened to this mindset. . .

Any thoughts on maps?
I have a thought: I ain't lifting a finger this time around. ;-)
Did I miss my chance for an early ditto on this quote? 8)

[Rÿchean]

just me spurring things along is all....

[funrun]

just me spurring things along is all....
mmm Hmmm :P

[Grungebob]

Should we start looking at other venue options?The person in charge of our clubhouse has not responded to my phone call from this morning. It's you all's call. I don't want to be the one that slows this process down and messes things up. I will email the board of directors tonight and see if I can hurry things along.

[UranusPChicago]

I ask out of ignorance because I simply don't know the cost, but would it be worth it to check out some conference rooms at a hotel? I work right next to the Wyndham Hotel at LBJ and the Tollway. Should I even bother?

[Grungebob]

My clubhouse director just emailed me. The rental is $165 there are various chairs and 4 long folding tables and about 5 round outdoor tables. The place is nice and can hold 40 but I do not have an accurate count on the chairs yet. Should we go for it?

[wisinger]

My clubhouse director just emailed me. The rental is $165 there are various chairs and 4 long folding tables and about 5 round outdoor tables. The place is nice and can hold 40 but I do not have an accurate count on the chairs yet. Should we go for it?

I say yes at this point.

[Grungebob]

My clubhouse director just emailed me. The rental is $165 there are various chairs and 4 long folding tables and about 5 round outdoor tables. The place is nice and can hold 40 but I do not have an accurate count on the chairs yet. Should we go for it?

I say yes at this point.I will go by there again tomarrow and make an accurate count. If there are not enough chairs/tables do we have access to extras? Wisinger, did you know of a source of extra chairs etc??

[Velenne]

I ask out of ignorance because I simply don't know the cost, but would it be worth it to check out some conference rooms at a hotel? I work right next to the Wyndham Hotel at LBJ and the Tollway. Should I even bother?

Depends on the hotel, in my experience. What works best is having an "in" with a manager who get it for you free. Unfortunately, I no longer have such a contact in my network.... :unsure:

Churches and daycares also have ample space, tables, and chairs. (The latter may have very wee chairs though...)

[Rÿchean]

My clubhouse director just emailed me. The rental is $165 there are various chairs and 4 long folding tables and about 5 round outdoor tables. The place is nice and can hold 40 but I do not have an accurate count on the chairs yet. Should we go for it?

I say yes at this point.I will go by there again tomarrow and make an accurate count. If there are not enough chairs/tables do we have access to extras? Wisinger, did you know of a source of extra chairs etc??

I am sure we can string some of this together. I have 6 folding chairs some stackable patio chairs and 2 folding tables. If a have these things I am sure others do as well. We can make this work.

[markwars]

I agree with Ry. We can make it work.

The centralized location of GB's neighborhood would really be the best for everyone involved.

[DrLivingston]

I also have 2 card tables and 6 folding chairs that I can bring if needed.

[Jonathan]

So $165 is $5 x 33, which we seem to have based on the first post. Should work out fine.

[wisinger]

My clubhouse director just emailed me. The rental is $165 there are various chairs and 4 long folding tables and about 5 round outdoor tables. The place is nice and can hold 40 but I do not have an accurate count on the chairs yet. Should we go for it?

I say yes at this point.I will go by there again tomarrow and make an accurate count. If there are not enough chairs/tables do we have access to extras? Wisinger, did you know of a source of extra chairs etc??

I just rent them from Taylor Rental. Might be worth the little additional cost to rest 3-5 8' tables, and a bunch of chairs?

Let me know.