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CandyMakingMaster
August 11th, 2007, 04:02 PM
Why isn't Mr. Fantastic put into Marvel: the Reinforcements Arrive? :(
PLEASE TELL ME! :evil:
Eclipse
August 11th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Why isn't Mr. Fantastic put into Marvel: the Reinforcements Arrive? :(
PLEASE TELL ME! :evil:
So you'll buy the second wave as well?
CandyMakingMaster
August 11th, 2007, 04:09 PM
Why isn't Mr. Fantastic put into Marvel: the Reinforcements Arrive? :(
PLEASE TELL ME! :evil:
So you'll buy the second wave as well?
Oh. :roll:
Temprit
August 11th, 2007, 08:30 PM
So for now its just the Fantastic 3!!!
AKflip
August 11th, 2007, 10:40 PM
Is there a date when this wave will come out?
hi1hi1hi1hi1
August 11th, 2007, 10:45 PM
Is there a date when this wave will come out?December I think. It was on the sign in the picture of the entire expansion.
HS Beast
August 11th, 2007, 11:16 PM
If they would have been smart.... they would have left IW out also. Swapped her out for Storm, then you can have the current FF... Black Panther, Storm, Human Torch, and The Thing. Then included Sue and Reed in the next expansion pack.
Dartheyegouger
August 11th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Storm's also in Wave 2. :wink:
netherspirit
August 11th, 2007, 11:34 PM
I just hope we eventually get Ultimate Nick Fury!
HS Beast
August 11th, 2007, 11:35 PM
Storm's also in Wave 2. :wink:
Wait. She is? Ok, clearly I missed that fact. Or somehow forgot it.
I was too giddy about Beast being in the set. I forgot who else was in. :oops: :lol:
Edit: Whoops. I was thinking of the first expansion as Wave 2. :D
Agent Minivann
August 11th, 2007, 11:36 PM
Reed Richards is a Nancy boy. :P
allskulls
August 12th, 2007, 02:29 AM
I just hope we eventually get Ultimate Nick Fury!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ninth, tell this guy something will ya?
rdhight
August 12th, 2007, 03:01 AM
Why isn't Mr. Fantastic put into Marvel: the Reinforcements Arrive? :(
PLEASE TELL ME! :evil:
Probably because this second 10-figure pack is 40% Fantastic Four characters as it is! We've only seen 20 characters so far and you F4 guys already have 3/4 of the classic team, 3/4 of the current team, and Super Skrull, Doom, and the Surfer to pit them against! Be thankful you're getting so much so fast-- there are lots of other good books and teams that haven't gotten anywhere close to the numbers the Fantastic Four have right now.
Wytefang
August 12th, 2007, 03:27 AM
Okay, I just got off the phone with Hasbro and here's the straight skinny - it basically came down to how stretchy Mr. Fantastic was...everytime they tried to rubber band him into the booster box, he'd stretch out all over the floor and slip out. Eventually they just gave up.
I hear he'll be released as a figure encased in a block of clear plastic, eventually. :word:
Penitus
August 12th, 2007, 09:09 AM
Storm's also in Wave 2. :wink:
Wait, how do you know what's in wave 2? Did I miss some big announcement somewhere?
Cavalier
August 12th, 2007, 10:08 AM
Storm's also in Wave 2. :wink:
Wait, how do you know what's in wave 2? Did I miss some big announcement somewhere?
I'm pretty sure the :wink: indicates a joke.
HS Beast
August 12th, 2007, 11:29 AM
Probably because this second 10-figure pack is 40% Fantastic Four characters as it is! We've only seen 20 characters so far and you F4 guys already have 3/4 of the classic team, 3/4 of the current team, and Super Skrull, Doom, and the Surfer to pit them against! Be thankful you're getting so much so fast-- there are lots of other good books and teams that haven't gotten anywhere close to the numbers the Fantastic Four have right now.
Exactly. So far we only have one member of the X-Men out of 20 figures. And he used to be an Avenger. Makes me wonder if they're saving a majority of the X-Men for a big expansion box set. Maybe with a Sentinel pack-in.
Wytefang
August 12th, 2007, 12:03 PM
Exactly. My thoughts from a long time ago were the same.
johnny139
August 12th, 2007, 12:07 PM
I would have been happier if they split the F4 50/50, make it Ben and Johnny now, Sue and Reed next wave.
It would fit better, I think.
Penitus
August 12th, 2007, 12:30 PM
Storm's also in Wave 2. :wink:
Wait, how do you know what's in wave 2? Did I miss some big announcement somewhere?
I'm pretty sure the :wink: indicates a joke.
I assumed as such, but I thought I'd ask anyway. You never know, considering that the Hasbro folks have been at so many comic/gaming conventions lately. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody slipped and gave away something that they weren't supposed to talk about.
Penitus
August 12th, 2007, 12:31 PM
Probably because this second 10-figure pack is 40% Fantastic Four characters as it is! We've only seen 20 characters so far and you F4 guys already have 3/4 of the classic team, 3/4 of the current team, and Super Skrull, Doom, and the Surfer to pit them against! Be thankful you're getting so much so fast-- there are lots of other good books and teams that haven't gotten anywhere close to the numbers the Fantastic Four have right now.
Exactly. So far we only have one member of the X-Men out of 20 figures. And he used to be an Avenger. Makes me wonder if they're saving a majority of the X-Men for a big expansion box set. Maybe with a Sentinel pack-in.
Exactly. I think there's going to be some X-Men themed large expansion later...or a new Marvel Master Set. MMM Sentinels.
Scape_Scrub11
August 12th, 2007, 12:48 PM
I think he just kidding
ninthdoc
August 12th, 2007, 03:20 PM
I just hope we eventually get Ultimate Nick Fury!
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CandyMakingMaster
August 12th, 2007, 03:37 PM
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:shock:
COME ON!!!
WHAT WAS THAT ALL ABOUT? I HATE THAT.
:ban:
That's what you get for peeing on an admin on MY thread!
:nkick:
Agent Minivann
August 12th, 2007, 05:10 PM
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:shock:
COME ON!!!
WHAT WAS THAT ALL ABOUT? I HATE THAT.
:ban:
That's what you get for peeing on an admin on MY thread!
:nkick:
:rofl: ninthdoc banned? For some reason I don't think it's going to happen.
Cavalier
August 12th, 2007, 06:23 PM
:rofl: ninthdoc banned? For some reason I don't think it's going to happen.I'd be willing to make a bet at 100 to 1 odds that ninthdoc will be around longer than candyman.
CandyMakingMaster
August 12th, 2007, 06:28 PM
:rofl: ninthdoc banned? For some reason I don't think it's going to happen.I'd be willing to make a bet at 100 to 1 odds that ninthdoc will be around longer than candyman.
But that was NETHERSPIRIT he was messing with! :x
ninthdoc
August 12th, 2007, 06:39 PM
nether's my boy. I'm buying him a brew at GenCon. Ultimate Nick Fury blows.
IAmBatman
August 12th, 2007, 06:55 PM
If you were as close to nether as Ninth is, you could probably get away with it too. But you're not. :P
Manchine
August 12th, 2007, 07:43 PM
nether's my boy. I'm buying him a brew at GenCon. Ultimate Nick Fury blows.
You are probable not looking forward to the Iron Man Movie are you? Samuel Jackson is playing Nick. :) :wink: :mrgreen:
Lotus
August 12th, 2007, 07:54 PM
Actually I am, from what I have seen, I want it :drool:
HS Beast
August 12th, 2007, 07:55 PM
You are probable not looking forward to the Iron Man Movie are you? Samuel Jackson is playing Nick. :) :wink: :mrgreen:
http://www.newsarama.com/heroes_philly07/Marvel/sat/NickFury.jpg
"You gotta problem with that?"
Manchine
August 12th, 2007, 08:25 PM
Actually I like Samuel L Jackson playing him. I read more Ultimate Comics then I do 616. Way back in the new avengers when I saw him again I was like who is that. I forgot he was white in 616 universe. :) Oh and I am looking forward to it also. :mrgreen:
HS Beast
August 12th, 2007, 08:28 PM
Actually I like Samuel L Jackson playing him. I read so more Ultimate Comics then I do 616.
A difficult task. Given there's only currently 4 ongoings and a couple minis.
I'm concerned about the rumors coming out for the Ultimate Universe. Especially about UXM ending.
ej
August 12th, 2007, 08:32 PM
If you were as close to nether as Ninth is, you could probably get away with it too. But you're not. :P
If I did that, not only would I be banned, but I would fear for the lives of my children. And also my immortal soul, tires, etc.
jcb231
August 12th, 2007, 10:02 PM
One of the Comic-con reporters was told Mister Fantastic would be coming.....the "when" was unclear. :-(
But he is coming someday! :-)
Regarding the Iron Man movie....have any of you seen the trailer from comic-con? Wow. I really want to see this movie!
ninthdoc
August 13th, 2007, 12:25 AM
If you were as close to nether as Ninth is, you could probably get away with it too. But you're not. :P
If I did that, not only would I be banned, but I would fear for the lives of my children. And also my immortal soul, tires, etc.
So, did I set a bad example, again?
Havokscry
August 13th, 2007, 07:18 AM
If you were as close to nether as Ninth is, you could probably get away with it too. But you're not. :P
If I did that, not only would I be banned, but I would fear for the lives of my children. And also my immortal soul, tires, etc.
So, did I set a bad example, again?
It depends on how close you really are to nether. :lol:
CandyMakingMaster
August 13th, 2007, 07:23 AM
If you were as close to nether as Ninth is, you could probably get away with it too. But you're not. :P
If I did that, not only would I be banned, but I would fear for the lives of my children. And also my immortal soul, tires, etc.
So, did I set a bad example, again?
Pretty bad... :roll:
Archer
August 13th, 2007, 09:02 AM
MY son pointed out that the expansions are priced @ 12.99 in the photo.
I can only assume that this price is for 5 of the 10 figures shown.(but I would not mind getting all 10 for 12.99.)
It's our opinion that this is only 1/2 Half of the first wave shown.
It would not make sense for Hasbro to stop putting 4 boosters in a wave.
Or as many of you have pointed out, it does not make sense to have 3 of the FF in the wave and not have Reed Richards in the wave also.
Its our prediction another 10 (Not shown) will be in this first wave.
:D
ej
August 13th, 2007, 09:07 AM
Its our prediction another 10 (Not shown) will be in this first wave.
:D
Ummm... my Spidey-Sense says NO. It often says Try Again Later, but this time it's definitely saying NO.
I hope I'm wrong, though.
Cavalier
August 13th, 2007, 09:37 AM
MY son pointed out that the expansions are priced @ 12.99 in the photo.
I can only assume that this price is for 5 of the 10 figures shown.(but I would not mind getting all 10 for 12.99.)
It's our opinion that this is only 1/2 Half of the first wave shown.
It would not make sense for Hasbro to stop putting 4 boosters in a wave.
Or as many of you have pointed out, it does not make sense to have 3 of the FF in the wave and not have Reed Richards in the wave also.
Its our prediction another 10 (Not shown) will be in this first wave.
:D
$12.99 is the MSRP for all HS Small Figure Expansions. And I'm 99% sure that one of the designers confirmed that that is all of the first wave.
Penitus
August 13th, 2007, 11:38 AM
MY son pointed out that the expansions are priced @ 12.99 in the photo.
I can only assume that this price is for 5 of the 10 figures shown.(but I would not mind getting all 10 for 12.99.)
It's our opinion that this is only 1/2 Half of the first wave shown.
It would not make sense for Hasbro to stop putting 4 boosters in a wave.
Or as many of you have pointed out, it does not make sense to have 3 of the FF in the wave and not have Reed Richards in the wave also.
Its our prediction another 10 (Not shown) will be in this first wave.
:D
$12.99 is the MSRP for all HS Small Figure Expansions. And I'm 99% sure that one of the designers confirmed that that is all of the first wave.
Correct. The 10 figures shown are the entirety of the first wave...sadly.
HS Beast
August 13th, 2007, 11:50 AM
Correct. The 10 figures shown are the entirety of the first wave...sadly.
Well, like has been mentioned numerous times... they can't really risk not selling future expansions by putting all the A-List and Team characters in the first expansion. Plus they're also looking for game and character balance. Characters like Mr. Fantastic, Wolverine, etc. may be proving more difficult to adapt than first thought. :)
champrjk
August 13th, 2007, 11:50 AM
So how would they put ten figures in four booster packs? Two, two, three, and three?
Or will they only have two boosters of five each? Any ideas?
HS Beast
August 13th, 2007, 11:55 AM
So how would they put ten figures in four booster packs? Two, two, three, and three?
Or will they only have two boosters of five each? Any ideas?
I thought it was confirmed to be 2 Boosters of 5 Figures.
Since unlike Heroscape, most people will only need/want one pack of each.
And unlike Heroscape, I have a feeling that most people will buy a pack of each. So better to split them up the above way, then the case can include several packs of each instead of a couple packs of four different boosters.
champrjk
August 13th, 2007, 11:58 AM
If it was confirmed then it was without my knowing. Thanks for filling me in.
Eclipse
August 13th, 2007, 12:00 PM
Likely they'll keep the same packaging as the normal boosters, but there will be 2 of each booster in the box. That seems like the way to ship them, IMO.
markwars
August 13th, 2007, 03:33 PM
I'm going to make sure I don't mess with nether.
Doc_Savage
August 14th, 2007, 12:03 AM
The only thing that was confirmed to my by Chris at Comic-con is that those 10 figures are the whole wave.
I can't imagine that there will be more than 2 packs in this wave. Three packs of 3,3,4 makes no sense to me. I think that there will be 4 packs per case just like the other waves, but there will only 2 different packs of 5 figures each.
Logrey
August 14th, 2007, 10:21 PM
I didn't see anyone mention this (at least in this thread), but here's my Reed Richards theory:
When he's stretchy, he's big. I see a big box figure expansion coming and he'll have a two hex base (for good measure throw in a Sentinel, Apocalypse and, for the old schoolers, Fing Fang Foom).
ROM
August 14th, 2007, 11:17 PM
I didn't see anyone mention this (at least in this thread), but here's my Reed Richards theory:
When he's stretchy, he's big. I see a big box figure expansion coming and he'll have a two hex base (for good measure throw in a Sentinel, Apocalypse and, for the old schoolers, Fing Fang Foom).
I really hope you are wrong about a double-based Mr. Fantastic. I just don't see the need.
jcb231
August 14th, 2007, 11:26 PM
I think saying that the MSRP is $12.99 and that the ten figures shown are the whole wave is as close as we're going to get to confirming two packs of five for now. Maybe at Gencon we'll see the packages or something, but I can't imagine they would split ten medium sized figures over four packs and still charge $12.99 a pack. These aren't flagbearers with fancy dice and bags.
HS Beast
August 15th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Ok, this is weird. I keep getting an error message trying to post in certain topics. This is the first one that actually seems to work. Regardless, to stay on topic... anyone know if we'll hear/see more about the expansion at Gen Con?
Eclipse
August 15th, 2007, 01:26 PM
Ok, this is weird. I keep getting an error message trying to post in certain topics. This is the first one that actually seems to work. Regardless, to stay on topic... anyone know if we'll hear/see more about the expansion at Gen Con?
Likely you're running into the strange psychic problem on this site. You cannot post the letters P S Y in sequence together. This becomes a serious problem if you want to talk about psychic powers or characters like Psylocke.
Penitus
August 16th, 2007, 12:42 PM
Ok, this is weird. I keep getting an error message trying to post in certain topics. This is the first one that actually seems to work. Regardless, to stay on topic... anyone know if we'll hear/see more about the expansion at Gen Con?
What else could we learn, other than stats? My brain isn't functioning too well today.
jcb231
August 16th, 2007, 01:58 PM
I think the most likely thing to learn about Marvel expansion at Gencon will be how they are packaged. I think stats are less likely, but possible. We'll know by the end of the day hopefully.
Firemaster
August 17th, 2007, 12:32 AM
I think the most likely thing to learn about Marvel expansion at Gencon will be how they are packaged. I think stats are less likely, but possible. We'll know by the end of the day hopefully.
To quote Wytefang, who spoke to Craig himself:
1. The small Marvel expansion set for this December WILL come in two booster packs (as expected by most of us).
jcb231
August 17th, 2007, 03:08 PM
I think the most likely thing to learn about Marvel expansion at Gencon will be how they are packaged. I think stats are less likely, but possible. We'll know by the end of the day hopefully.
To quote Wytefang, who spoke to Craig himself:
1. The small Marvel expansion set for this December WILL come in two booster packs (as expected by most of us).
By "how they are packaged" I meant specifically. The two packs was pretty much a given. I meant who's with who. Black Panther with Punisher or Human Torch with Thing or what have you.
HS Beast
August 17th, 2007, 03:53 PM
By "how they are packaged" I meant specifically. The two packs was pretty much a given. I meant who's with who. Black Panther with Punisher or Human Torch with Thing or what have you.
I think it's pretty evident they'll split them up in 'Heroes' and 'Villains' sets.
Heroes:
Beast
Black Panther
Human Torch
Invisible Woman
The Thing
Villains:
Bullseye
Dr. Octopus
Punisher (More of an anti-hero now. But started an outright villain. Still one, in most respects.)
Sandman
Super Skrull
jcb231
August 17th, 2007, 04:57 PM
By "how they are packaged" I meant specifically. The two packs was pretty much a given. I meant who's with who. Black Panther with Punisher or Human Torch with Thing or what have you.
I think it's pretty evident they'll split them up in 'Heroes' and 'Villains' sets.
Heroes:
Beast
Black Panther
Human Torch
Invisible Woman
The Thing
Villains:
Bullseye
Dr. Octopus
Punisher (More of an anti-hero now. But started an outright villain. Still one, in most respects.)
Sandman
Super Skrull
Is that just speculation? Seems like it could go all sorts of ways.
HS Beast
August 17th, 2007, 05:51 PM
Is that just speculation? Seems like it could go all sorts of ways.
Speculation. Logic. Gut Instinct. Whatever you like to call it.
We've been told it will be 2 5-Figure boosters.
There's 5 clear 'Heroes' and 5 clear 'Villains'. Makes sense to me.
IAmBatman
August 17th, 2007, 06:12 PM
I wouldn't say Punisher is a clear anything. I'd say there's 4 clear villians, and 5 clear heroes and Punisher.
I'd also say that one thematic grouping that makes a lot of sense to me is - Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Thing, Sandman, and Super Skrull in a set. Three Fantastic Four members and two of their enemies (I realize Sandman is mainly a Spidey enemy, but he's considered a FF enemy too, and I think makes a good matchup for Thing).
That leaves a mostly more vigilante level group in Black Panther, Punisher, Bullseye, Doc Oct, and Beast for the other booster. This packaging makes sense to me.
Besides, why would you want to add just a package of heroes or just a package of villains when you can add a more diverse pack that adds to both ends of the Marvel spectrum at once?
jcb231
August 18th, 2007, 12:06 AM
Yeah....I think splitting them up into heroes in one pack and villains plus Punisher in the other actually makes the least sense of all the possible divisions, sorry to say. :-P
HS Beast
August 18th, 2007, 02:26 AM
Yeah....I think splitting them up into heroes in one pack and villains plus Punisher in the other actually makes the least sense of all the possible divisions, sorry to say. :-P
How so? If someone only wants to play heroes... he can buy the hero pack.
If someone only wants to play villains... they can buy the villain pack.
Grim
August 18th, 2007, 02:33 AM
HS Beast's division makes sense to me.
Another option would be "black and blue" for one pack and "earth tones" for the other. Swap Bullseye and Punisher for Thing and Invisible Woman in the above lists. :)
jcb231
August 18th, 2007, 04:16 PM
Yeah....I think splitting them up into heroes in one pack and villains plus Punisher in the other actually makes the least sense of all the possible divisions, sorry to say. :-P
How so? If someone only wants to play heroes... he can buy the hero pack.
If someone only wants to play villains... they can buy the villain pack.
Ah...but then you are only selling them one pack, good sir, whereas I am selling them two! :-P
Havokscry
August 19th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Is that just speculation? Seems like it could go all sorts of ways.
Speculation. Logic. Gut Instinct. Whatever you like to call it.
We've been told it will be 2 5-Figure boosters.
There's 5 clear 'Heroes' and 5 clear 'Villains'. Makes sense to me.
Are there 5 clear villains? At some point in comic history, I'd say that each one of the villains in the expansion pack could be considered as one of the good guys.
Bullseye - Currently working for Tony Stark and Reed Richards as part of the Thunderbolts, tracking down super powers that won't register.
Super Skrull - As part of the Annihilition storyline, he sacrifices himself to save countless innocents.
Sandman - Briefly joined the Avengers as a reserve member and worked alongside Silver Sable as part of the Wild Pack.
Dr. Octopus - Was actually engaged to Aunt May at one time and the two characters have been friends. When Doc Ock learned of Spider-man's identity, he actually saved his life.
Overall, yes they are villains, but recent history has shown there is more of a grey area today. Heck, many readers considered Iron Man a villain in the Civil War storyline.
LoneDragon
August 19th, 2007, 03:30 PM
I was kind of hoping they would be in one big pack with more terrain. That way I could buy less master sets and get more variation on the terrain pieces.
I am very happy about the terrain distribution in the Marvel Master Set. Its nice to get so many more 2-hex pieces than 1-hex pieces. I am a little disappointed with the lack of special rules for either of the new terrain types. Does anyone know if the boosters will come with the standard 4-hex bonus?
~Yub yub, Commander!
jcb231
August 19th, 2007, 07:16 PM
I was kind of hoping they would be in one big pack with more terrain. That way I could buy less master sets and get more variation on the terrain pieces.
I am very happy about the terrain distribution in the Marvel Master Set. Its nice to get so many more 2-hex pieces than 1-hex pieces. I am a little disappointed with the lack of special rules for either of the new terrain types. Does anyone know if the boosters will come with the standard 4-hex bonus?
~Yub yub, Commander!
Nobody knows about what terrain, if any, will be in Marvel boosters. If they are paying more money for the license, it might make sense to drop the terrain as a cost-cutting measure in order to not up the MSRP. But who knows.
In regards to the Master Set, I actually prefer more single-hex tiles...they are more flexible. I hope we get more in the boosters.
rdhight
August 19th, 2007, 07:29 PM
I would have thought it was the other way around: If they're selling all unpainted tiles with licensed figures as opposed to painted tiles and original figures, keep selling TCB-sized packages. Make sure you don't send any figure money to Marvel without keeping some tile money for yourself.
Jer
August 20th, 2007, 01:22 PM
Yeah....I think splitting them up into heroes in one pack and villains plus Punisher in the other actually makes the least sense of all the possible divisions, sorry to say. :-P
Why "villains plus Punisher"? That's an awkward way of saying "all the villains in one pack" :)
Anyway, who knows how they're going to split them up, but if I were doing it, and I wanted to make sure people bought both packs, I'd spread the love a bit. I'd end up with 3 heroes + 2 villains in one pack and 3 villains + 2 heroes in the other. I'd try to split the "kewlest" characters (or at least the most recognizable characters) between the two packs.
So I'd probably stick Doc Ock and Sandman in separate packs (both Spidey villains), and I'd probably split the 3 FF members up somehow - probably put the Human Torch and Thing in separate packs, and then Invisible Woman with Human Torch (because the Torch figure isn't cool enough looking on its own, but the Thing figure can probably "sell" the pack almost himself". Punisher and Bullseye would end up in separate packs, and I'd fill in the last few figures as needed.
OTOH - another tack might be to balance the packs based on abilities, so that each pack has a nice set of different powers to play with. Since Bullseye and Punisher have similar powers they end up in separate packs. Beast and Black Panther will be somewhat similar, so they end up in separate packs, etc. You could probably make a case for a breakdown that takes into account both recognizability and power similarity to split the two packs if you wanted.
Troll Warrior
August 20th, 2007, 03:06 PM
Are there 5 clear villains? At some point in comic history, I'd say that each one of the villains in the expansion pack could be considered as one of the good guys.
Bullseye - Currently working for Tony Stark and Reed Richards as part of the Thunderbolts, tracking down super powers that won't register.
Super Skrull - As part of the Annihilition storyline, he sacrifices himself to save countless innocents.
Sandman - Briefly joined the Avengers as a reserve member and worked alongside Silver Sable as part of the Wild Pack.
Dr. Octopus - Was actually engaged to Aunt May at one time and the two characters have been friends. When Doc Ock learned of Spider-man's identity, he actually saved his life.
Overall, yes they are villains, but recent history has shown there is more of a grey area today. Heck, many readers considered Iron Man a villain in the Civil War storyline.
If I remember correctly, Bullseye is currently hospitalized in critical condition.
Anyways:
Bullseye is still a villain, even if he is a protagonist in a series, and has always been portrayed as an insane assassain bent on killing DareDevil.
VILLAIN
Super Skrull was still usually portrayed as a villain from our side of the fence, but to the Skrulls he was a war hero. He is up for negotiation.
????????????
Sandman wasn't part of the Avengers' Reserve for very long, nor was he part of Wild Pack for very long. Not long after his reform, the Wizard turned him evil again and Sandy's back to robbing banks and stealing candy from babies.
VILLAIN (although not completely his own fault)
Dr. Octopus wanted to marry Aunt May because she was willed a nuclear power plant (don't ask) without her knowledge. Although he did seem to care for May, his goals were far from good. When Ocky saves Spidey's butt, it was because he thought he was the only one with any right to kill Spidey. His ego would have been deflated had he let Parker die. Regardless, he was killed immediately after and brought back to life with only memories prior to this incident.
VILLAIN
philofmars
August 21st, 2007, 10:25 PM
I think they'll be split up randomly to make you buy 2 packs. Like, invisible girl in one and torch in the other.
(not that I wouldn't anyway)
Hey where can you buy Marvel Stratego? I need that too!!!!!
phil
rdhight
August 21st, 2007, 11:39 PM
I think they'll be split up randomly to make you buy 2 packs. Like, invisible girl in one and torch in the other.
(not that I wouldn't anyway)
The world doesn't revolve around the Fantastic Four. I don't think splitting them up vs. combining them is really going to have a measurable effect on sales.
philofmars
August 21st, 2007, 11:49 PM
I'm just saying, that's how they'll do it.
Split up teams and put popular and not popular characters together in a set so they can sell more sets. Like they did superhero squarons toys. Pair hulk with wasp, thing with namor.
Levi
August 26th, 2007, 04:37 PM
Since we "know" it will be 2 sets of 5, my guess is...
Invisible Woman, Human Torch, Punisher, Super Skrull, Bullseye
Thing, Black Panther, Beast, Doc Ock, Sandman
beetleboy8
August 26th, 2007, 08:51 PM
I still think it should be
good guys
Thing/Torch/Suzie/Panther/Beast
bad guys
Punisher/Skrull/Bullseye/Doc Ock/Sandman
it harkens back to the 70's and 80's when toys and ephemera were packaged as "super heroes" or "super villains"
jcb231
August 26th, 2007, 10:12 PM
I still think it should be
good guys
Thing/Torch/Suzie/Panther/Beast
bad guys
Punisher/Skrull/Bullseye/Doc Ock/Sandman
it harkens back to the 70's and 80's when toys and ephemera were packaged as "super heroes" or "super villains"
Ah, before the days of companies realizing there was profit to be made. :-P
webhead817
August 27th, 2007, 12:20 PM
I'm just saying, that's how they'll do it.
Split up teams and put popular and not popular characters together in a set so they can sell more sets. Like they did superhero squarons toys. Pair hulk with wasp, thing with namor.
It's not just about selling more sets, it also about getting more characters out that might not stand out enough on their own. If Superhero Squad figs were sold individually, we might never have seen Wasp. She's an obscure character to the casual fan...but to a comics fan she's a founding member of the Avengers.
NecroBlade
August 27th, 2007, 01:09 PM
Thing, Invisible Woman, Torch, Super Skrull, and Bullseye.
and
Black Panther, Punisher, Beast, Doc Ock, and Sandman.
make the most sense to me.
HS Beast
August 27th, 2007, 03:36 PM
It's not just about selling more sets, it also about getting more characters out that might not stand out enough on their own. If Superhero Squad figs were sold individually, we might never have seen Wasp. She's an obscure character to the casual fan...but to a comics fan she's a founding member of the Avengers.
Actually, it's more likely she's packed with Hulk because he's a larger character. So they pack a larger character with someone smaller, to cost out the set. Same reason that Spider-Woman is coming packed with the next version of Hulk.
ej
August 27th, 2007, 05:26 PM
To restate what's been said, I'm sure they'll be packaged by total weight more than anything else. Whichever grouping of five is the closest in weight to the other grouping of five.
Eclipse
August 27th, 2007, 06:00 PM
To restate what's been said, I'm sure they'll be packaged by total weight more than anything else. Whichever grouping of five is the closest in weight to the other grouping of five.
Why would that matter? They're not going to ship them separately, so the weight distribution isn't all that important.
Penitus
August 27th, 2007, 06:46 PM
To restate what's been said, I'm sure they'll be packaged by total weight more than anything else. Whichever grouping of five is the closest in weight to the other grouping of five.
Why would that matter? They're not going to ship them separately, so the weight distribution isn't all that important.
Coming soon...the Blob expansion pack. The Blob comes with...himself.
ej
August 27th, 2007, 10:25 PM
To restate what's been said, I'm sure they'll be packaged by total weight more than anything else. Whichever grouping of five is the closest in weight to the other grouping of five.
Why would that matter? They're not going to ship them separately, so the weight distribution isn't all that important.
I finally say ONE semi-intelligent thing and someone wants to crap all over it.
webhead817
August 28th, 2007, 06:58 AM
It's not just about selling more sets, it also about getting more characters out that might not stand out enough on their own. If Superhero Squad figs were sold individually, we might never have seen Wasp. She's an obscure character to the casual fan...but to a comics fan she's a founding member of the Avengers.
Actually, it's more likely she's packed with Hulk because he's a larger character. So they pack a larger character with someone smaller, to cost out the set. Same reason that Spider-Woman is coming packed with the next version of Hulk.
That doesn't account for other large characters like Durge (obscure) being packed with normal sized figs like Obi-Wan (popular) though...
Eclipse
August 28th, 2007, 10:31 AM
To restate what's been said, I'm sure they'll be packaged by total weight more than anything else. Whichever grouping of five is the closest in weight to the other grouping of five.
Why would that matter? They're not going to ship them separately, so the weight distribution isn't all that important.
I finally say ONE semi-intelligent thing and someone wants to crap all over it.
:horsepoo:
Temprit
October 13th, 2007, 03:32 PM
bad guys
Punisher/Skrull/Bullseye/Doc Ock/Sandman
I see what you're saying but Punisher isn't a "Supervillian"
:wink:
IAmBatman
October 13th, 2007, 03:38 PM
I still maintain that Sandman fits well with that "Fantastic Three" since he's their villain after being a Spidey villain. Throw in Super Skrull and I think that's a pack, leaving the others for the second pack.
HS Beast
October 13th, 2007, 07:06 PM
I still maintain that Sandman fits well with that "Fantastic Three" since he's their villain after being a Spidey villain. Throw in Super Skrull and I think that's a pack, leaving the others for the second pack.
I'm still going with the Good Guys/Bad Guys breakdown.
Since that's how the Master Set was broken up. 1-5 Good, 6-10 Bad. Check Zee Cards. :)
Xiegfried
November 8th, 2007, 04:05 PM
I'm not quite sure if its still being discussed, but my guess would be that Mr.Fantastic is coming in a terrain expansion with lab terrain, along with one or two villains like the Impossible Man.
Ben{Rix}
November 8th, 2007, 10:16 PM
I'm not quite sure if its still being discussed, but my guess would be that Mr.Fantastic is coming in a terrain expansion with lab terrain, along with one or two villains like the Impossible Man.
It's a good idea. :twisted:
justin
November 22nd, 2007, 09:21 PM
I think maybe Iceman and Pyro would be good figures. Just an Idea
Bubblyman
December 31st, 2007, 12:26 PM
I think maybe Iceman and Pyro would be good figures. Just an Idea
I agree fully.
Icemaan is my favorite, riht now i guess im gonna try to get an iceman heroclix to use :/
jcb231
December 31st, 2007, 03:19 PM
I would love to see a second Master Set that focuses just on X-men.
Ten characters....
Wolverine, Sabretooth
Storm, Toad
Professor X, Magneto
Colossus, Juggernaut
Iceman, Pyro
add some ruins, the usual mix of terrain, glyphs, and gmaeplay items, and you are good to go.
Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Mystique, and other popular X-men could arrive in boosters like Beast.
Blackrock
January 20th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Perhaps Mystique could have a sort of Copy ability where she mimics another hero's army card.
I haven't been reading up in a few weeks; is there any news on when TRA is due to hit the public?
jcb231
January 20th, 2008, 03:19 PM
Perhaps Mystique could have a sort of Copy ability where she mimics another hero's army card.
I haven't been reading up in a few weeks; is there any news on when TRA is due to hit the public?
No solid news, no. Vague rumors of first or second quarter 2008.
rdhight
January 20th, 2008, 10:11 PM
Perhaps Mystique could have a sort of Copy ability where she mimics another hero's army card.
I'd rather see Mystique "copy appearance" as some kind of evasion ability and Rogue actually copy powers.
bigbadbob
January 21st, 2008, 10:36 AM
If anything Mystique should have an ability to move about "undetected" until she attacks. This way its like she appears to be a hero of some sort, and your opponent cannot attack her. Then she gets in close to an opponents hero and attacks, breaking her cover.
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