How many Marvel Expansions do you expect?

[Manchine]

New Guy here. I just figured I would ask this question. I already seen the new expansion. With FF and friends.


How many Marvel Expansions do you expect in a years time? I am actually hoping for at least 3. How many do they do for regular heroscape and how many do you think Marvel will get?

[Spark]

i think three and just maybe 4

[WeaponV]

Considering the original Master Set came out in 2004 (I think) and they have just released the Wave 7 expansion, I figure 2 expansion waves a year is about right. If we're lucky maybe 3. However, I think we'll see one around Christmas (already announced) and then another by June 2008.

[jcb231]

Considering the original Master Set came out in 2004 (I think) and they have just released the Wave 7 expansion, I figure 2 expansion waves a year is about right. If we're lucky maybe 3. However, I think we'll see one around Christmas (already announced) and then another by June 2008.

The Master Set released in 2004, and Wave One squeaked out that year. It didn't hit many areas until early 2005 though.

2005 saw the release of Waves two and three, 2006 saw four-six, and 2007 will see seven, eight, and Marvel One. Three per year and a large box wave is sort of the norm if one thinks of the classic Wave One as really entering the retail scene in 2005.

I think that from now on we will see two sets of Marvel per year plus two sets of classic, not counting the large box wave and any other special items.

I think that Marvel wave one is sadly going to be only two sets of five, unless they've got more figures up their sleeves for Gencon. There's just no way to divide those 10 figures into four packs without each pack looking insanely skimpy for 12.99. Perhaps if 6 more figures showed up....then each pack could have four figures. As a side note, I'd recommend the following six figures to round out this wave: Klaw (Black Panther's enemy), Mister Fantastic (to finish the team), Daredevil (to fight Bullseye), Mandarin (to fight Iron Man), one more mutant (so that Beast isn't too lonely....or maybe give him a true enemy), and one more Fantastic Four tie-in like Annihilus (to finish them off as a theme for now).

Ideally, I'd love to see three waves of classic and three waves of Marvel per year, but I doubt Hasbro will be that good to us! I can see Marvel releasing anywhere from 50-100 superhero figures for Marvel before they start dredging too deep.

My wallet hopes that all Marvel expansions are unique, and thematically I think that's best too, even if they do incorporate squads someday, which I think they should do....a unique set of Skrulls or SHIELD Agents would rock my socks.

[Troll Warrior]

As long as Marvel-Scape makes money, they will continue producing it.

[BRUNAK]

A lot! *Says hopefully*

[ej]

See, every once in a while there's something that makes me want to keep on living. First it was seeing the rest of the Star Wars flicks. Then it was the return of a certain Timelord (I forget his name at the moment). Now it's seeing more and more heros released for Marvelscape.

I'm as excited as when Pringles announces a new flavor!

[NecroBlade]

49876536.

[IAmBatman]

Knowing there's two more Batman movies with Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale coming makes me think twice every time I step foot on a plane. :D

[Sweetcurse]

Welcome to Heroscapers Manchine! I'm glad my post back at HCrealms brought you here. For those who don't know, Manchine is a super old time member in the Heroclix forums, kind of like Grungebob here, and a supercool guy to boot. It's great to see you here man hopefully we'll see you often as I'm sure you'll enjoy this site.

As for your question, I would also predict two releases per year, but they seem to be small expansions, maybe only two booster per each.

[Manchine]

Welcome to Heroscapers Manchine! I'm glad my post back at HCrealms brought you here. For those who don't know, Manchine is a super old time member in the Heroclix forums, kind of like Grungebob here, and a supercool guy to boot. It's great to see you here man hopefully we'll see you often as I'm sure you'll enjoy this site.

As for your question, I would also predict two releases per year, but they seem to be small expansions, maybe only two booster per each.


Which one were you. :)

Yes I will be here. I already am trying to figure everything out over here. Pretty much I have been looking over the Character Creations things. Even PMed a few people. :)

[soberman]

See, every once in a while there's something that makes me want to keep on living. First it was seeing the rest of the Star Wars flicks. Then it was the return of a certain Timelord (I forget his name at the moment).

I wonder Who that could be? :wink:

Now it's seeing more and more heros released for Marvelscape.

I'm as excited as when Pringles announces a new flavor!

How do you feel about Doritos then? That Fiery Habanero is enough to make me forget my scruples and eat the disguised MSG that the FDA let's into our foodstuffs so we keep buying more. I know I'm being manipulated, and i don't care!

As to the question...I hope Marvel gets enough sets to make a respectable sized city when they are all linked. I still think this expansion will come with more city terrain, and nothing from ComicCon confirms or denies that suspicion.

Soberman

Now Playing Elvis 2nd to None

[Ursas]

MANCHINE! That name brings back a lot of memories when Heroclix first came out. Unfortunately I left that game after the second set came out. I remember you posting often with some great insight or information. If I recall correctly you had some inside info from time to time and are from the Seattle area where Wizkids is located?

Regardless if I am right or wrong welcome here!

[ninthdoc]

Manchine, great post for discussion. I'm hoping for two a year at least. I'm glad to see new folks coming here and from what others have said of you, it looks like we have a great new member. 8)

[Grungebob]

Welcome to Heroscapers Manchine! I'm glad my post back at HCrealms brought you here. For those who don't know, Manchine is a super old time member in the Heroclix forums, kind of like Grungebob here, and a supercool guy to boot. It's great to see you here man hopefully we'll see you often as I'm sure you'll enjoy this site.

As for your question, I would also predict two releases per year, but they seem to be small expansions, maybe only two booster per each.


Which one were you. :)

Yes I will be here. I already am trying to figure everything out over here. Pretty much I have been looking over the Character Creations things. Even PMed a few people. :)Manchine!! I hear you are the Grungebob of Heroclix!! Welcome to the Heroscape world. Maybe I should go visit your world as well... A little foreign exchange perhaps? :lol: Great to have you here!! :lol:

[IAmBatman]

Maybe one of these days we'll have one of these: :gb: for a Manchine. :D

[Sherman Davies]

I'm expecting two per calendar year; since the first expansion is already supposed to be arriving by this holiday season, the earliest I can see a second expansion is May 2008, followed by a third in the late fall. This works out well for me budget-wise, since I really want to be able to keep up with both Marvelscape and Heroscape.

[Manchine]

Maybe one of these days we'll have one of these: :gb: for a Manchine. :D

Only thing is its got to be GREEN! :mrgreen:


Thanks everyone. :) Of course I still have to get the game. It is on order. So I am just waiting for it to get here.

[ares834]

I agree with sherman two per year.

[jcb231]

As long as Marvel-Scape makes money, they will continue producing it.

True, but as major characters run dry the game will likely stop making wads of money and thus stop being produced. There's only so many times they can rehash the same characters, expecially because scape, unlike clix, does not retire waves. In clix, old wolverines cease to exist, for all intents and purposes, so a new one can come along and still be a worthwhile purchase.

[Unknownknowned]

if they make them in sets of 10, id expect around 3
there are tons of heroes in the marvel universe, but some of them kids would not know

[jcb231]

See, every once in a while there's something that makes me want to keep on living. First it was seeing the rest of the Star Wars flicks. Then it was the return of a certain Timelord (I forget his name at the moment).

I wonder Who that could be? :wink:

Now it's seeing more and more heros released for Marvelscape.

I'm as excited as when Pringles announces a new flavor!

How do you feel about Doritos then? That Fiery Habanero is enough to make me forget my scruples and eat the disguised MSG that the FDA let's into our foodstuffs so we keep buying more. I know I'm being manipulated, and i don't care!

As to the question...I hope Marvel gets enough sets to make a respectable sized city when they are all linked. I still think this expansion will come with more city terrain, and nothing from ComicCon confirms or denies that suspicion.

Soberman

Now Playing Elvis 2nd to None

The MSRP is $12.99....seems a little low for a city-sized pack with ruins and all that jazz like the MAster Set had, so I'm thinking this group will be sold in regular sized boosters with just a few hexes of terrain.

[Unknownknowned]

do we know that the new 10 heroes will be sold in something with terrain, my guess is just boosters

[Penitus]

Manchine.

Yeah, I remember you also from the hcrealms boards. I wish I could say I posted there enough that you'd know my name there, but my only claim to fame there was winning the first Halloween Costume Contest.

8)

[jcb231]

if they make them in sets of 10, id expect around 3
there are tons of heroes in the marvel universe, but some of them kids would not know

Actually, I'd think kids would know more than most folks. And with comics becoming more and more mainstream I think you underestimate the average fans' familiarity with the Marvel U.

And there's certainly more than 30 notables in the Marvel U, even for the casual fan that only knows Marvel from movies and cartoons....I'd say there's between 50 and 100 before you dip too far into obscurity.

Heck, we already have 20 figures confirmed. You're saying there's only 10 more worth making?

Here's ten right here:
-Wolverine
-Daredevil
-Thor
-Elektra
-Doctor Strange
-Mister Fantastic
-Nick Fury
-Hawkeye
-Green Goblin
-Colossus

Okay, then boys...let's pack it up. No use making Cyclops, Jean Grey, Magneto, Professor X, Juggernaut, Ghost Rider, Kingpin, Iceman, Nightcrawler, Mystique, Toad, Gambit, Rogue, Sabretooth, Blade, Wasp, Scarlett Witch, Vision, Black Widow, Quicksilver, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, or anything else. Unknownknowned says the kids won't know them. Let's close it up while we're ahead. :-P

[Manchine]

if they make them in sets of 10, id expect around 3
there are tons of heroes in the marvel universe, but some of them kids would not know

Actually, I'd think kids would know more than most folks. And with comics becoming more and more mainstream I think you underestimate the average fans' familiarity with the Marvel U.

And there's certainly more than 30 notables in the Marvel U, even for the casual fan that only knows Marvel from movies and cartoons....I'd say there's between 50 and 100 before you dip too far into obscurity.

Heck, we already have 20 figures confirmed. You're saying there's only 10 more worth making?

Here's ten right here:
-Wolverine
-Daredevil
-Thor
-Elektra
-Doctor Strange
-Mister Fantastic
-Nick Fury
-Hawkeye
-Green Goblin
-Colossus

Okay, then boys...let's pack it up. No use making Cyclops, Jean Grey, Magneto, Professor X, Juggernaut, Ghost Rider, Kingpin, Iceman, Nightcrawler, Mystique, Toad, Gambit, Rogue, Sabretooth, Blade, Wasp, Scarlett Witch, Vision, Black Widow, Quicksilver, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, or anything else. Unknownknowned says the kids won't know them. Let's close it up while we're ahead. :-P

If you make those you have to make an Enemy for them. At least thats my thought.ss :)

[Unknownknowned]

i said 3 more
i wasnt including the confirmed ones (20)
that makes the total 50
name 30 more notable and recognizable by kids marvel heroes
thats harder, unless you just start making mutants from the xmen movies

[IAmBatman]

Not sure how recognizable Thanos is, but he made the Masterset. It's not all reconizability - it's having enough of it.

[Troll Warrior]

As long as Marvel-Scape makes money, they will continue producing it.

True, but as major characters run dry the game will likely stop making wads of money and thus stop being produced. There's only so many times they can rehash the same characters, expecially because scape, unlike clix, does not retire waves. In clix, old wolverines cease to exist, for all intents and purposes, so a new one can come along and still be a worthwhile purchase.

But there is near infinite numbers of characters in Marvel. If they really wanted to make money they keep on producing sets like (Wolverine and the Circus of Crime). Everyone would buy the pack because they need Wolverine, but end up paying for figures that they don't know and couldn't care less about, like the Ringmaster and his Circus or like Jessica Jones.

[Tiberius]

There are tons of spiderman villians that are mainstream, Kingpin, you could get into the sentinels, Apocolypse and his horsemen, Cable and Stryfe, X-factor, X-Force, Mr. Sinister, Sauron, tons of other X-men villians. The list goes on. We have 40 years of history to pull from, not including recent movies. Blackheart for Ghostrider just came to mind as well.

[Unknownknowned]

they could get by putting him in there, they already had the "buy me kids" factor with silver surfer, spiderman, venom, cap, etc
plus thanos was needed to be a villain for iron man

yea there are plenty of xmen and spiderman villians etc but this is Marvel heroscape
not spiderman scape

[Troll Warrior]

they could get by putting him in there, they already had the "buy me kids" factor with silver surfer, spiderman, venom, cap, etc
plus thanos was needed to be a villain for iron man

... a villain for Silver Surfer. They replaced the Iron Man villain (for example, Mandarin) with the neccessary Dr. Doom.

[Unknownknowned]

dr doom goes with surfer
thanos first appeared in iron man VOLUME 1.
the new movie gave way to doom surfer combo

[Manchine]

32 Figures below (With their Major Enemy. Each of these should have an enemy to fight) So there is several more that can be done.


-Wolverine
-Sabretooth

-Daredevil
-Kingpin

-Thor

-Elektra
-Green Goblin

-Doctor Strange

-Mister Fantastic

-Nick Fury

-Hawkeye

-Colossus
-Juggernaut

-Cyclops
-Toad

-Jean Grey

-Magneto
-Professor X

-Iceman

-Nightcrawler

-Gambit

-Rogue
-Mystique


-Blade

-Wasp

-Scarlett Witch

-Vision

-Black Widow

-Quicksilver

-She-Hulk

-Spider-Woman

-Ghost Rider



A quick list of what could be included as enemies.

Ultron
Kang
Apocaylapse
Pyro
Loki
Baron Mordu
Black Cat
Morbius



With these you could easily throw in some 2 or 3 more unknown characters per 10 figures.

[Unknownknowned]

i'm not saying they couldn't go on forever, but with this being a kids game in all i doubt they'll make some of those characters.. like apocalypse.. and his four horsemen..

4 horsemen of the apocalypse= not for children

[Manchine]

i'm not saying they couldn't go on forever, but with this being a kids game in all i doubt they'll make some of those characters.. like apocalypse.. and his four horsemen..

4 horsemen of the apocalypse= not for children

The 4 horsemen. Yeah but Apocalypse I can see them making. Its no different then Doctor Doom.

Apocalypse and the 4 horsemen have even been on the Cartoon back in the 90's.

[IAmBatman]

i'm not saying they couldn't go on forever, but with this being a kids game in all i doubt they'll make some of those characters.. like apocalypse.. and his four horsemen..

4 horsemen of the apocalypse= not for children

I know! Those are scary - like zombies or something ... :roll: (Or Punisher, for that matter - guy who shoots down people in a barrage of bullets and wears a skull on his chest. I wouldn't assume, at this point, that anything is off the table).
Oh, and Manchine forgot about Ant Man, who is soon to star in his own movie, so he'll have plenty of profile.

[Unknownknowned]

the four horsemen of the apocalypse cannot be compared to green disfigured zombies, and little kids dont know what the punisher does. they just know he has guns like gi joe

[IAmBatman]

Really? Cuz I just compared them. :wink:

[Unknownknowned]

i just cant see an 8 year old going
hey dad
i wanna play with war, pestilence, famine, and death.. YAY.

[Troll Warrior]

i just cant see an 8 year old going
hey dad
i wanna play with war, pestilence, famine, and death.. YAY.

You have obviously not met some of my neighbors.

[IAmBatman]

And yet "Doctor Doom" sounds so cute and innocent.

[Unknownknowned]

i dont think there going to release characters with biblical roots who represent the apocalypse into a children's game.

[IAmBatman]

Well, I think your avatar says a lot about your feelings on religion. :wink: But I understand you're sure we won't see the Horsemen or Apocalypse, I and some others are pretty sure we will see Apocalypse, and many, myself included, wouldn't rule out seeing the Horsemen at some point.
Clearly we're not going to do anything to change each other's minds, so it's really a pointless debate right now.

[Unknownknowned]

my avatar says nothing about my feelings on religion thank you very much, its a joke someone i know made because the new pope looks like palpatine thats all.

[jcb231]

Apocalypse seems like a given. He's been featured in cartoons, video games, and action figures. He's on my cousin's lunchbox I think. He's pretyt popular with the kiddies and the adulties.

[jcb231]

i said 3 more
i wasnt including the confirmed ones (20)
that makes the total 50
name 30 more notable and recognizable by kids marvel heroes
thats harder, unless you just start making mutants from the xmen movies

Challenge accepted.

Here are 50 characters I think figure-worthy, not counting the 20 we have already seen.

1.Wolverine
2.Daredevil
3.Thor
4.Elektra
5.Doctor Strange
6.Mister Fantastic
7.Nick Fury
8.Hawkeye
9.Green Goblin
10.Colossus
11.Cyclops
12.Jean Grey
13.Magneto
14.Professor X
15.Juggernaut
16.Angel
17.Ghost Rider
18.Mephisto (notable Ghost Rider villain, appeared in movie)
19.Kingpin (notable Daredevil villain, appeared in movie)
20.Iceman
21.Blob
22.Nightcrawler
23.Mystique
24.Loki (obvious pairing for Thor)
25.Toad
26.Klaw (Black Panther's nemesis)
27.Annihilus
28.Gambit
29.Rogue
30.Sabretooth
31.Blade
32.Morbius
33.Wasp
34.The Lizard
35.Kraven the Hunter
36.Rhino
37.Scarlett Witch
38.Ultron (good foe for Vision)
39.Vision
40.Carnage
41.Black Widow
42.Quicksilver
43.Leader
44.She-Hulk
45.Spider-Woman
46.Black Cat
47.Giant Man (rekindled popularity due to Ultimates series)
48.Ant-Man (has his own movie coming out soon)
49.War Machine (good movie tie-in)
50.The Mandarin (another good movie tie-in)
51.Storm
52.Moleman
53.Falcon (prominent Avenger)
54.Man-Thing (had his own movie, popular horror comic character)
55.Mysterio
56.Vulture
57.Shocker
58.Deadpool (the cult following on this guy is insane)
59.Shadowcat
60.P sylocke
61.Multiple Man
62.Apocalypse
63.Mister Sinister
64.Bishop
65.Cable
66.Captain Marvel (another cult following superstar)
67.Galactus
68.Fin Fang Foom (Hasbro can't say no to a giant dragon)
69.Dark Phoenix
70.Emma Frost
71.Nova (kids familiar with the Spider-Man cartoons will want him)
72.Kang (notable Fantastic Four and Avengers villain)
73.USAgent (easy to do as a repaint if not a new figure)
74.Moon Knight (increased popularity lately)
75.Luke Cage
76.Iron Fist
77.Dormammu (excellent Doctor Strange foe)
78.Blackheart (notabel Ghost Rider foe, featured in movie)
79.Jubilee (minor X-man)
80.Captain Britain (for our friends across the pond)
81.Electro
82.Absorbing Man (appeared in movie, good Thor or Hulk foe)
83.Pyro (good foe for Iceman)
84.Forge (minor but notable X-man)
85.Ms Marvel (rapid increase in popularity lately)
86.Baron Zemo
87.Jigsaw (going to be the villain in the next Punisher movie)
88.The Watcher
89.MODOK (giant floating heads are awesome!)
90.Silver Sable (featured in the Spider-Man video game)
91.Lady Deathstrike (best movie death scene in years!)
92.Odin
93.Dracula
94.Howard the Duck
95.Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham
96.Silver Samurai
97.Havok
98.Omega Red
99.Banshee
...oops, that was more than 50, wasn't it? :-)

I'm sure there's more, but I'd have to stop and think about it.

Keep in mind that I am a mere casual fan of the comics....I really only read the Ultimate universe stuff and have owned incredibly few other Marvel comics over the years. I am a fan of the movies and some cartoons though, like it seems most of America is based on those ticket sales. I'm basing my list above on what Iv'e seen in cartoons, movies, action figures, and just basic pop culture 101 knowledge of the Marvel U.

I created that list without checking any reference (except one spell check) at all, and as an informal test actually had two non-comic fans in the room look at it. Between the two of them they knew exactly 83 of the characters on the list....one of these people had never owned a comic in her life, and the other was a DC fan in his college years but hasn't read a comic since then. I don't think they are the exception to the rule....I bet if I surveyed any pop-culture savvy person between Heroscape's lowest recommended playing age and 40 they'd average out to recognize at least 3/4 of the characters I named above. Marvel has done a very good job of saturating the media with it's characters lately, and the glut of Marvel movies and cartoons and the popular action figures have really made household names out of some unlikely creatures. The theme park helps too. My elderly great aunt once referred to a movie alien as "some sort of rubbery skrull-looking monster." The woman is now 91.

If squads enter the game I think we could have the following:
1. Skrull Warriors
2. Moloids (to go with Moleman)
3. Sentinels
4. SHIELD Agents (to go with Nick Fury...perhaps Sharon Carter too?)
5. Hydra Agents (perhaps with Baron Strucker, their leader?)
6. AIM Agents (to go with MODOK)
7. Kree Warriors
8. NYPD Cops
9. Doom-bots

I don't think you can rule ANY Marvel character out on reiligious or violence concerns. The Punisher is in the game, for crying out loud. The Punisher. The Punisher is also featured in the kiddie-oriented "Supr Hero Squad" chubby little cute figures. The Punisher. Frank Castle. Vietnam vet who goes loopy in the noggin and kilsl folks with high powered weapons. The Punisher. I'll let that sink in. :-P

Has it sunk in? Good. Once you okay the Punisher there's no stopping what could be in this game. A game that's already full of death and destruction and the undead and soul-devouring ghosts. I'm sure Elektra is on the slate....she was mentioned more than once in that interview, wasn't she? Elektra, if I recall correctly, is a scantily clad trained killer who basically wears a thong made out of ribbons. Compared to her and the Punisher, Apocalypse seems like Sesame Street.

edit: added some more characters

[BRUNAK]

With all the heroes out there it could be from 5-20!

[Zincdust]

i said 3 more
i wasnt including the confirmed ones (20)
that makes the total 50
name 30 more notable and recognizable by kids marvel heroes
thats harder, unless you just start making mutants from the xmen movies

Challenge accepted.

Here are 50 characters I think figure-worthy, not counting the 20 we have already seen.

1.Wolverine
2.Daredevil
3.Thor
4.Elektra
5.Doctor Strange
6.Mister Fantastic
7.Nick Fury
8.Hawkeye
9.Green Goblin
10.Colossus
11.Cyclops
12.Jean Grey
13.Magneto
14.Professor X
15.Juggernaut
16.Angel
17.Ghost Rider
18.Mephisto (notable Ghost Rider villain, appeared in movie)
19.Kingpin (notable Daredevil villain, appeared in movie)
20.Iceman
21.Blob
22.Nightcrawler
23.Mystique
24.Loki (obvious pairing for Thor)
25.Toad
26.Klaw (Black Panther's nemesis)
27.Annihilus
28.Gambit
29.Rogue
30.Sabretooth
31.Blade
32.Morbius
33.Wasp
34.The Lizard
35.Kraven the Hunter
36.Rhino
37.Scarlett Witch
38.Ultron (good foe for Vision)
39.Vision
40.Carnage
41.Black Widow
42.Quicksilver
43.Leader
44.She-Hulk
45.Spider-Woman
46.Black Cat
47.Giant Man (rekindled popularity due to Ultimates series)
48.Ant-Man (has his own movie coming out soon)
49.War Machine (good movie tie-in)
50.The Mandarin (another good movie tie-in)
51.Storm
52.Moleman
53.Falcon (prominent Avenger)
54.Man-Thing (had his own movie, popular horror comic character)
55.Mysterio
56.Vulture
57.Shocker
58.Deadpool (the cult following on this guy is insane)
59.Shadowcat
60.P sylocke
61.Multiple Man
62.Apocalypse
63.Mister Sinister
64.Bishop
65.Cable
66.Captain Marvel (another cult following superstar)
67.Galactus
68.Fin Fang Foom (Hasbro can't say no to a giant dragon)
69.Dark Phoenix
70.Emma Frost
71.Nova (kids familiar with the Spider-Man cartoons will want him)
72.Kang (notable Fantastic Four and Avengers villain)
73.USAgent (easy to do as a repaint if not a new figure)
74.Moon Knight (increased popularity lately)
75.Luke Cage
76.Iron Fist
77.Dormammu (excellent Doctor Strange foe)
78.Blackheart (notabel Ghost Rider foe, featured in movie)
79.Jubilee (minor X-man)
80.Captain Britain (for our friends across the pond)
81.Electro
82.Absorbing Man (appeared in movie, good Thor or Hulk foe)
83.Pyro (good foe for Iceman)
84.Forge (minor but notable X-man)
85.Ms Marvel (rapid increase in popularity lately)
86.Baron Zemo
87.Jigsaw (going to be the villain in the next Punisher movie)
88.The Watcher
89.MODOK (giant floating heads are awesome!)
90.Silver Sable (featured in the Spider-Man video game)
91.Lady Deathstrike (best movie death scene in years!)
92.Odin
93.Dracula
94.Howard the Duck
95.Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham


What?! No Squirrel Girl? :D

[jcb231]

i said 3 more
i wasnt including the confirmed ones (20)
that makes the total 50
name 30 more notable and recognizable by kids marvel heroes
thats harder, unless you just start making mutants from the xmen movies

Challenge accepted.

Here are 50 characters I think figure-worthy, not counting the 20 we have already seen.

1.Wolverine
2.Daredevil
3.Thor
4.Elektra
5.Doctor Strange
6.Mister Fantastic
7.Nick Fury
8.Hawkeye
9.Green Goblin
10.Colossus
11.Cyclops
12.Jean Grey
13.Magneto
14.Professor X
15.Juggernaut
16.Angel
17.Ghost Rider
18.Mephisto (notable Ghost Rider villain, appeared in movie)
19.Kingpin (notable Daredevil villain, appeared in movie)
20.Iceman
21.Blob
22.Nightcrawler
23.Mystique
24.Loki (obvious pairing for Thor)
25.Toad
26.Klaw (Black Panther's nemesis)
27.Annihilus
28.Gambit
29.Rogue
30.Sabretooth
31.Blade
32.Morbius
33.Wasp
34.The Lizard
35.Kraven the Hunter
36.Rhino
37.Scarlett Witch
38.Ultron (good foe for Vision)
39.Vision
40.Carnage
41.Black Widow
42.Quicksilver
43.Leader
44.She-Hulk
45.Spider-Woman
46.Black Cat
47.Giant Man (rekindled popularity due to Ultimates series)
48.Ant-Man (has his own movie coming out soon)
49.War Machine (good movie tie-in)
50.The Mandarin (another good movie tie-in)
51.Storm
52.Moleman
53.Falcon (prominent Avenger)
54.Man-Thing (had his own movie, popular horror comic character)
55.Mysterio
56.Vulture
57.Shocker
58.Deadpool (the cult following on this guy is insane)
59.Shadowcat
60.P sylocke
61.Multiple Man
62.Apocalypse
63.Mister Sinister
64.Bishop
65.Cable
66.Captain Marvel (another cult following superstar)
67.Galactus
68.Fin Fang Foom (Hasbro can't say no to a giant dragon)
69.Dark Phoenix
70.Emma Frost
71.Nova (kids familiar with the Spider-Man cartoons will want him)
72.Kang (notable Fantastic Four and Avengers villain)
73.USAgent (easy to do as a repaint if not a new figure)
74.Moon Knight (increased popularity lately)
75.Luke Cage
76.Iron Fist
77.Dormammu (excellent Doctor Strange foe)
78.Blackheart (notabel Ghost Rider foe, featured in movie)
79.Jubilee (minor X-man)
80.Captain Britain (for our friends across the pond)
81.Electro
82.Absorbing Man (appeared in movie, good Thor or Hulk foe)
83.Pyro (good foe for Iceman)
84.Forge (minor but notable X-man)
85.Ms Marvel (rapid increase in popularity lately)
86.Baron Zemo
87.Jigsaw (going to be the villain in the next Punisher movie)
88.The Watcher
89.MODOK (giant floating heads are awesome!)
90.Silver Sable (featured in the Spider-Man video game)
91.Lady Deathstrike (best movie death scene in years!)
92.Odin
93.Dracula
94.Howard the Duck
95.Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham


What?! No Squirrel Girl? :D

One of the non-comic readers in the room actually knew her...I had to go look it up, and then decided no....too obscure. Would probably be a fun one though. :-)

[NecroBlade]

1.Wolverine
2.Daredevil
3.Thor
4.Elektra
5.Doctor Strange
6.Mister Fantastic
7.Nick Fury
8.Hawkeye
9.Green Goblin
10.Colossus
11.Cyclops
12.Jean Grey
13.Magneto
14.Professor X
15.Juggernaut
16.Angel
17.Ghost Rider
18.Mephisto (notable Ghost Rider villain, appeared in movie)
19.Kingpin (notable Daredevil villain, appeared in movie)
20.Iceman
21.Blob
22.Nightcrawler
23.Mystique
24.Loki (obvious pairing for Thor)
25.Toad
26.Klaw (Black Panther's nemesis)
27.Annihilus
28.Gambit
29.Rogue
30.Sabretooth
31.Blade
32.Morbius
33.Wasp
34.The Lizard
35.Kraven the Hunter
36.Rhino
37.Scarlett Witch
38.Ultron (good foe for Vision)
39.Vision
40.Carnage
41.Black Widow
42.Quicksilver
43.Leader
44.She-Hulk
45.Spider-Woman
46.Black Cat
47.Giant Man (rekindled popularity due to Ultimates series)
48.Ant-Man (has his own movie coming out soon)
49.War Machine (good movie tie-in)
50.The Mandarin (another good movie tie-in)
51.Storm
52.Moleman
53.Falcon (prominent Avenger)
54.Man-Thing (had his own movie, popular horror comic character)
55.Mysterio
56.Vulture
57.Shocker
58.Deadpool (the cult following on this guy is insane)
59.Shadowcat
60.P sylocke
61.Multiple Man
62.Apocalypse
63.Mister Sinister
64.Bishop
65.Cable
66.Captain Marvel (another cult following superstar)
67.Galactus
68.Fin Fang Foom (Hasbro can't say no to a giant dragon)
69.Dark Phoenix
70.Emma Frost
71.Nova (kids familiar with the Spider-Man cartoons will want him)
72.Kang (notable Fantastic Four and Avengers villain)
73.USAgent (easy to do as a repaint if not a new figure)
74.Moon Knight (increased popularity lately)
75.Luke Cage
76.Iron Fist
77.Dormammu (excellent Doctor Strange foe)
78.Blackheart (notabel Ghost Rider foe, featured in movie)
79.Jubilee (minor X-man)
80.Captain Britain (for our friends across the pond)
81.Electro
82.Absorbing Man (appeared in movie, good Thor or Hulk foe)
83.Pyro (good foe for Iceman)
84.Forge (minor but notable X-man)
85.Ms Marvel (rapid increase in popularity lately)
86.Baron Zemo
87.Jigsaw (going to be the villain in the next Punisher movie)
88.The Watcher
89.MODOK (giant floating heads are awesome!)
90.Silver Sable (featured in the Spider-Man video game)
91.Lady Deathstrike (best movie death scene in years!)
92.Odin
93.Dracula
94.Howard the Duck
95.Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham
96.Silver Samurai
97.Havok...who? Admittedly I'm not a big comic book fan, but I've barely heard of half of these and half the rest I've only heard brief mention of their names.

[Penitus]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.

And he's a bit obscure, but I'd LOOOOVE a MODOK.

http://www.geocities.com/marvel_terror/modok/modok2.jpg

[NecroBlade]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.But the challenge was to name 50 names more recognizable to kids...so now someone find me 50 kids who know every single one of those characters.

[Unknownknowned]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.But the challenge was to name 50 names more recognizable to kids...so now someone find me 50 kids who know every single one of those characters.

bingo, my point exactly. what kid whos not into comics knows modok?

[johnny139]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.But the challenge was to name 50 names more recognizable to kids...so now someone find me 50 kids who know every single one of those characters.

bingo, my point exactly. what kid whos not into comics knows modok?

What kid whose not into comics knows about the Black Panther?

[jcb231]

1.Wolverine
2.Daredevil
3.Thor
4.Elektra
5.Doctor Strange
6.Mister Fantastic
7.Nick Fury
8.Hawkeye
9.Green Goblin
10.Colossus
11.Cyclops
12.Jean Grey
13.Magneto
14.Professor X
15.Juggernaut
16.Angel
17.Ghost Rider
18.Mephisto (notable Ghost Rider villain, appeared in movie)
19.Kingpin (notable Daredevil villain, appeared in movie)
20.Iceman
21.Blob
22.Nightcrawler
23.Mystique
24.Loki (obvious pairing for Thor)
25.Toad
26.Klaw (Black Panther's nemesis)
27.Annihilus
28.Gambit
29.Rogue
30.Sabretooth
31.Blade
32.Morbius
33.Wasp
34.The Lizard
35.Kraven the Hunter
36.Rhino
37.Scarlett Witch
38.Ultron (good foe for Vision)
39.Vision
40.Carnage
41.Black Widow
42.Quicksilver
43.Leader
44.She-Hulk
45.Spider-Woman
46.Black Cat
47.Giant Man (rekindled popularity due to Ultimates series)
48.Ant-Man (has his own movie coming out soon)
49.War Machine (good movie tie-in)
50.The Mandarin (another good movie tie-in)
51.Storm
52.Moleman
53.Falcon (prominent Avenger)
54.Man-Thing (had his own movie, popular horror comic character)
55.Mysterio
56.Vulture
57.Shocker
58.Deadpool (the cult following on this guy is insane)
59.Shadowcat
60.P sylocke
61.Multiple Man
62.Apocalypse
63.Mister Sinister
64.Bishop
65.Cable
66.Captain Marvel (another cult following superstar)
67.Galactus
68.Fin Fang Foom (Hasbro can't say no to a giant dragon)
69.Dark Phoenix
70.Emma Frost
71.Nova (kids familiar with the Spider-Man cartoons will want him)
72.Kang (notable Fantastic Four and Avengers villain)
73.USAgent (easy to do as a repaint if not a new figure)
74.Moon Knight (increased popularity lately)
75.Luke Cage
76.Iron Fist
77.Dormammu (excellent Doctor Strange foe)
78.Blackheart (notabel Ghost Rider foe, featured in movie)
79.Jubilee (minor X-man)
80.Captain Britain (for our friends across the pond)
81.Electro
82.Absorbing Man (appeared in movie, good Thor or Hulk foe)
83.Pyro (good foe for Iceman)
84.Forge (minor but notable X-man)
85.Ms Marvel (rapid increase in popularity lately)
86.Baron Zemo
87.Jigsaw (going to be the villain in the next Punisher movie)
88.The Watcher
89.MODOK (giant floating heads are awesome!)
90.Silver Sable (featured in the Spider-Man video game)
91.Lady Deathstrike (best movie death scene in years!)
92.Odin
93.Dracula
94.Howard the Duck
95.Peter Porker, the Spectacular Spider-Ham
96.Silver Samurai
97.Havok...who? Admittedly I'm not a big comic book fan, but I've barely heard of half of these and half the rest I've only heard brief mention of their names.

Wow.

I'm really shocked by that as you seem like the pop-culture savvy type.

Do you enjoy Marvel movies? Of the 97 characters I mention above, around 40-50 have appeared in live-action movies in some form, with more on the way over the next year or two. Of the remaining, most have appeared in the cartoons and/or the video games. Very few are comics-exclusive.

Even as a casual comic fan I know that many, many characters on this list have had their own comic book series, so even if you are a casual comics fan or a non-fan, these guys are pretty prominent in their medium and therefore often breakout of the boundaries of the paneled page when it comes time for licensing.

I think every character on my list (except perhaps Peter Porker) has had his own action figure in the extremely popular Marvel Legends toyline. If you're around kids a lot, you'll know that those Marvel Legends toys are getting pretty omnipresent. Seems like every kid I know under age 12 has at least one or two, and sometimes the characters are shockingly obscure (moreso than anything on my list!). Heck I saw a kid with Yellow Jacket and Sasquatch figures while playing with my cousins. I had to ask him who they were because I wasn't sure. Also, video games often play a big part in boosting a characters name cred...that Ultimate Alliance game really upped the status of some characters by making them playable in a major platform game release.

The fact that you have heard their names is good enough....even if you can put even a little bit of an image to that name, or at least know that a certain name = Marvel superhero, you're set. The name carries recognition...it's not total obscurity. Plus, even if you do draw a total blank on some of these guys, I think a lot of Marvel fans will back me up that there are some veery cool looking figures here with interesting powers....that can increase the desire to buy as well. When dealing with secondary and tertiary characters, I tried not to list ones that didn't look cool or have something really crazy in power town.




I think that DC cannot boast as many name characters as Marvel, even though it's big two (Sups and Bats) are, with Spider-Man, arguably the most iconic comic characters ever. Perhaps in a future post I'll try.

[jcb231]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.But the challenge was to name 50 names more recognizable to kids...so now someone find me 50 kids who know every single one of those characters.

bingo, my point exactly. what kid whos not into comics knows modok?

What kid whose not into comics knows about the Black Panther?

The BlackPanther has been featured in cartoons and video games and action figures. He is also a staple of the Marvel U, so not including him would alienate fans.

MODOK is more obscure, I admit, but he has also been featured in other mediums. He's also a giant frickin' head....which ups his "awesome wackiness" appeal.


edit: Oh yeah....if the challenge was to name fifty, and you recognize half the names on my list, that just about does it.

[johnny139]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.But the challenge was to name 50 names more recognizable to kids...so now someone find me 50 kids who know every single one of those characters.

bingo, my point exactly. what kid whos not into comics knows modok?

What kid whose not into comics knows about the Black Panther?

The BlackPanther has been featured in cartoons and video games and action figures. He is also a staple of the Marvel U, so not including him would alienate fans.

MODOK is more obscure, I admit, but he has also been featured in other mediums. He's also a giant frickin' head....which ups his "awesome wackiness" appeal.

A kid who doesn't like comics, super-heroes, etc won't know who the Black Panther is. That same kid, odds are, won't be buying Marvelscape, and won't know anyone outside of Spider-Man and Friends. If a kid likes comics and such, he'll probably know most of the characters on that list in some way, shape, or form.

EDIT: Oh, and MODOK was in the Iron Man cartoon in the 90s.

http://marvel.toonzone.net/ironman/bios/villains/modok/01.jpg

http://marvel.toonzone.net/ironman/bios/villains/modok/05.jpg

[jcb231]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.But the challenge was to name 50 names more recognizable to kids...so now someone find me 50 kids who know every single one of those characters.

bingo, my point exactly. what kid whos not into comics knows modok?

What kid whose not into comics knows about the Black Panther?

The BlackPanther has been featured in cartoons and video games and action figures. He is also a staple of the Marvel U, so not including him would alienate fans.

MODOK is more obscure, I admit, but he has also been featured in other mediums. He's also a giant frickin' head....which ups his "awesome wackiness" appeal.

A kid who doesn't like comics, super-heroes, etc won't know who the Black Panther is. That same kid, odds are, won't be buying Marvelscape, and won't know anyone outside of Spider-Man and Friends. If a kid likes comics and such, he'll probably know most of the characters on that list in some way, shape, or form.

Agreed, sorta.

I thik there's a difference between not liking something and not being exposed to it. As a kid I didn't like Voltron, didn't own any of the toys, and watched it only once or twice, but I guarantee at the time I could have named virtually every character on the show and told you what they did. Likewise for Strawberry Shortcake, even though that was a girl's toy....I had girl cousins that were obsessed with her. Just being a kid and playing with other kids you play with their toys and/or hear about their interests, you watch the same cartoons and movies sometimes, you get in those fun kid discussions of what character can beat up what other character. If even one kid on the playground has seen the popular Avengers cartoon and knows who Black Panther is, soon enough two kids will, then four, then eight, and so on.

The popularity of Heroclix is also boosting the recognition of more obscure characters, and as the previous poster added via edit, cartoons feature the obscurities.


edit: I'd also like to add that if Marvel Legends action figures can sell obscure characters, Herocape can definately do it. Reason being Heroscape has the Heroscape name, obviously, and has the advantage of selling you four or five figures at a time, something that lessens the impact of a third-stringer. If Marvel Legends can sell someone a Baron Zemo for 10 bucks and make a profit on it at big box retail (and it seems they are doing quite well with that), I guarantee Hasbro can put a Baron Zemo in a pack with other figures and sell it for ten bucks, especially if even one or two of those figures have appeared in a movie or cartoon or other notable source.

[IAmBatman]

I think that DC cannot boast as many name characters as Marvel, even though it's big two (Sups and Bats) are, with Spider-Man, arguably the most iconic comic characters ever. Perhaps in a future post I'll try.

And here I was about to say I agree with every single thing you've been saying in this thread so far. :D
You're probably even right when it comes to the whole Marvel/DC thing as well, though. Marvel has certainly done a much better job of marketing its secondary characters in mass media, and probably has a few more big name characters to start out with (Stan Lee really made an impact on pop culture).
That said, DC's cast of characters is nothing to sneeze at. Let's see if I can't bust out a comparable list to what you did for Marvel.
Thanks to Smallville, various television cartoons (BTAS standing out in this group), and several movies of varying quality, Batman and Superman both have fairly recognizable universes of characters.

1. Superman
2. Lex Luthor
3. Doomsday
4. General Zod
5. Metallo
6. Bizarro
7. Supergirl
8. Superboy
9. Batman
10. Joker
11. Robin
12. Batgirl
13. Nightwing
14. Penguin
15. Catwoman
16. Riddler
17. Two Face
18. Ra's Al Ghul
19. Scarecrow
20. Poison Ivy
21. Mr. Freeze
22. Bane
23. Clayface
24. Wonder Woman
25. Cheetah
26. Green Lantern (several versions)
27. Flash (several versions)
28. Martian Manhunter
29. Hawkgirl
30. Raven
31. Beast Boy
32. Cyborg
33. Starfire
34. Deathstroke
35. Aquaman
36. Green Arrow
37. The Atom
38. Plastic Man
39. Hawkman
40. Captain Marvel (Shazam)
41. Darkseid
42. Power Girl
43. The Spectre
44. Brainiac
45. Captain Atom
And I feel, at this point, I'm starting to trail off into much lesser known characters, though I could still list about 200 characters I know off the top of my head here. But, yeah, I'd say you're right, DC is a bit less iconic (though it's hard for me to judge, being such a big DC fan myself - heck, I could probably list 150 or more just Batman related characters).

[hex706f726368]

Likewise for Strawberry Shortcake, even though that was a girl's toy....

I'd pay $50 on ebay for a purple pie man exclusive. :P

[jcb231]

I think that DC cannot boast as many name characters as Marvel, even though it's big two (Sups and Bats) are, with Spider-Man, arguably the most iconic comic characters ever. Perhaps in a future post I'll try.

And here I was about to say I agree with every single thing you've been saying in this thread so far. :D
You're probably even right when it comes to the whole Marvel/DC thing as well, though. Marvel has certainly done a much better job of marketing its secondary characters in mass media, and probably has a few more big name characters to start out with (Stan Lee really made an impact on pop culture).
That said, DC's cast of characters is nothing to sneeze at. Let's see if I can't bust out a comparable list to what you did for Marvel.
Thanks to Smallville, various television cartoons (BTAS standing out in this group), and several movies of varying quality, Batman and Superman both have fairly recognizable universes of characters.

1. Superman
2. Lex Luthor
3. Doomsday
4. General Zod
5. Metallo
6. Bizarro
7. Supergirl
8. Superboy
9. Batman
10. Joker
11. Robin
12. Batgirl
13. Nightwing
14. Penguin
15. Catwoman
16. Riddler
17. Two Face
18. Ra's Al Ghul
19. Scarecrow
20. Poison Ivy
21. Mr. Freeze
22. Bane
23. Clayface
24. Wonder Woman
25. Cheetah
26. Green Lantern (several versions)
27. Flash (several versions)
28. Martian Manhunter
29. Hawkgirl
30. Raven
31. Beast Boy
32. Cyborg
33. Starfire
34. Deathstroke
35. Aquaman
36. Green Arrow
37. The Atom
38. Plastic Man
39. Hawkman
40. Captain Marvel (Shazam)
41. Darkseid
42. Power Girl
43. The Spectre
44. Brainiac
45. Captain Atom
And I feel, at this point, I'm starting to trail off into much lesser known characters, though I could still list about 200 characters I know off the top of my head here. But, yeah, I'd say you're right, DC is a bit less iconic (though it's hard for me to judge, being such a big DC fan myself - heck, I could probably list 150 or more just Batman related characters).

Depending on how Batman/Superman heavy we wanted the list to be, maybe DC could go a bit higher. I can think of a number of characters to add to your list that aren't too obscure. I'll weigh in with my own list in a bit.

I think DC falls a litte short of Marvel in character volume because Marvel has the X-men franchise. Take the mutants out of Marvel's list and you'd nerf them a lot. The X-men is one of the most character-over-populated comics I've ever seen (which is why I don't follow it). There's an insane number of mutants running around those books.

[IAmBatman]

I'd agree that without the rabid success of the X-Men, the two would be on equal footing. I think the Titans were DC's attempt to get the same sort of youth following as the X-Men, but they never quite took off in the same way. For most of DC's history, if they wanted a title to sell, they pretty much had to put either Batman or Superman in it, or give one of those two regular appearances. Wonder Woman, as well known as she is, has never really sold comics particularly well.

[jcb231]

Here's my DC list....

1.Superman
2.Supergirl
3.Doomsday
4.Brainiac
5.Lex Luthor
6.Mr Mxyzptlk
7.Metallo
8.Bizarro
9.Lobo
10.Parasite
11.General Zod (maybe with Ursa and Non due to movie popularity)
12. Batman
13.Robin
14.Mr Freeze
15.Clayface
16.Killer Croc
17.Man-Bat
18.Catwoman
19.Two-Face
20Huntress
21.Riddler
22.Poison Ivy
23.Joker
24.Harley Quinn
25.Nightwing
26.Scarecrow
27.Penguin
28.Bane
29.Batgirl or Batwoman
30.Commissioner Gordon
31.Mad Hatter
32.Ra's Al Ghul
33.Wonder Woman
34.Cheetah
35.Captain Marvel (Shazam!)
36.Black Adam (to fight Shazam!)
37.Zatanna
38.Swamp Thing
39.Aquaman
40.Black Manta
41.The Spectre
42.Green Lantern (possibly also Kilowogg, Guy Garnder, or Sentinel)
43.The Flash
44.Green Arrow
45.Black Canary
46.Deathstroke
47.Gorilla Grodd (the cool factor alone is to die for)
48.Reverse Flash (an easy repaint)
49.Plastic Man
50.The Atom
51.Hawkman
52.Hawkgirl
53.Solomon Grundy
54.Cyborg
55.Beast Boy
56.Starfire
57.Raven
58.Doctor Fate
59.Amazo
60.Red Tornado
61.Power Girl
62.Captain Atom
63.Deadman
64.Creeper
65.Etrigan
66.Firestorm
67.Metamorpho
68.Captain Boomerang (or other Flash rogues)
69.Doctor Light (or other Justice League foes)
70. Martian Manhunter
71.Darkseid (maybe also Dessaad or Kalibak?)
72.Despero
73.Mongul
74.Parademons (squad?)
75.Orion (maybe also Barda or Mister Miracle?)
76.Sinestro



I think that would be my top 75....maybe swap some of the lesser heroes around a bit (adding in the classic Blue Beetle, perhaps), or add in some more villains. I think there's at least 40-50 that are pretty solid though and I wouldn't touch those. I think I'd be reaching to hit 100, but if the packs were divided well, with enough strong characters per pack, I could come up with 25-30 more minor-but-cool names to toss in there.

The DC universe cartoons really upped the prominence of the Teen Titans, Batman's rogues gallery, and Superman's supporting characters, so I tried to include a good amount of them.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, there were a bunch in yours that I thought about, but didn't mention as I was unsure of how well known they really were. Surprised to see Creeper make your top 75 - always considered him a bit on the obscure side.
Dr. Fate and Swamp Thing are two I didn't think of right away that probably would've made my list, as I think they're fairly well known. I think you could get a lot of mileage out of JSA characters not on there - like Hourman, Dr. Midnite, Starman, Wildcat, and Power Girl.

[jcb231]

Yeah, there were a bunch in yours that I thought about, but didn't mention as I was unsure of how well known they really were. Surprised to see Creeper make your top 75 - always considered him a bit on the obscure side.
Dr. Fate and Swamp Thing are two I didn't think of right away that probably would've made my list, as I think they're fairly well known. I think you could get a lot of mileage out of JSA characters not on there - like Hourman, Dr. Midnite, Starman, Wildcat, and Power Girl.

True...I snuck Creeper in as one of those 25 flex-room characters that I could easily replace with a JSA member like Hourman or Doctor Mid-nite or a minor villain. Black Lighting might be worth adding to the heroes if I were to add Power Girl or Starman or those characters. My familiarity with the JSA is spotty at best, but I know the ones you mentioned just from being a kid.

I'm trying to think of characters that have been popular for a while...dating back to the old Super Powers toys and the Super Friends cartoon at least, and beyond that back into the Silver Age. I tried to avoid "new" characters, with the exception of Bane and Doomsday as they were pretty big in the 90's and still show up in cartoons and toys pretty regularly.

I think the Watchmen would be an awesome pack, especialy as a movie-tie-in. Or maybe Jonah Hex....DC has some cool properties like that which aren't really part of their core regular universe, ya know?

[IAmBatman]

Watchmen would be cool, but really most of the characters in Watchmen are just adaptations of other properties currently owned by DC. The Question, Blue Beetle, and Captain Atom being the main ones there.
One thing to note is that you only have to have about 2 out of 5 fairly well known figures in a pack (if the packs do end up being 5 figure packs) for the pack to be in good shape, IMO. Which means there's plenty of room for Marvel characters to fit into expansions and they could go pretty deep with the Marvel Universe if they want to.
Now if they'd only do DC ... :D (But, hey, then what would I do with my spare time?)

[jcb231]

Now if they'd only do DC ... :D (But, hey, then what would I do with my spare time?)

Too true. I think if Marvel does well Hasbro should pay to license DC...I bet DC could charge a huge amount and it would still be worth it, even if Hasbro had to raise the MSRP of DC packs or change the format in which they sell them. You know how many fanboys would be drooling over the chance to pit Superman against Thor or Green Lantern against Thanos? (raises hand) I know I'm one.

There's really only three main licensed entities I want to see in this game....Marvel, DC, and Star Wars. I think it would be awesome to have Aliens or Terminator or PRedator or whatever if they were done well, but I don't think a whole line of any of those woudl be justified. I think the first three I listed are workable as complete games with enough of a universe to keep expansions coming.

(jcb231 daydreams and looks forward to pitting Darth Vader, Boba Fett, and Krug against Hulk, Guilty McCreech, and Batman)

[regdar]

I hope they don't over kill expanisions to the point where heroclix
is digging for nobodys but I sure hope that they make a galactus
that slowly eats away hexes .

[jcb231]

I hope they don't over kill expanisions to the point where heroclix
is digging for nobodys but I sure hope that they make a galactus
that slowly eats away hexes .

Any Galactus would be awesome....I think we need one to go with the Surfer.

[ej]

I could probably list 150 or more just Batman related characters).

... nerd...

[IAmBatman]

I could probably list 150 or more just Batman related characters).

... nerd...

your point? 8)

[hex706f726368]

There's really only three main licensed entities I want to see in this game....Marvel, DC, and Star Wars. I think it would be awesome to have Aliens or Terminator or PRedator or whatever if they were done well, but I don't think a whole line of any of those woudl be justified. I think the first three I listed are workable as complete games with enough of a universe to keep expansions coming.

(jcb231 daydreams and looks forward to pitting Darth Vader, Boba Fett, and Krug against Hulk, Guilty McCreech, and Batman)

Too true. I want to know how many jedi's it takes to bring down supes.

[Manchine]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.But the challenge was to name 50 names more recognizable to kids...so now someone find me 50 kids who know every single one of those characters.

Actually you probable only need 25 well known names. You can have who they oppose as someone a little more unknown. Which makes them go find out about them. This in turn increases revenue for comics. Because someone just might be come a favorite character. I would say between 25 to 35 characters should be well known.

[Manchine]

Necroblade, it's because of not being big comic book fan.

Most of those names are awesomely familiar to any Marvel comics fan.But the challenge was to name 50 names more recognizable to kids...so now someone find me 50 kids who know every single one of those characters.


Actually they said 30 more names. :)

[Manchine]

I hope they don't over kill expanisions to the point where heroclix
is digging for nobodys but I sure hope that they make a galactus
that slowly eats away hexes .

It took 4 sets to finally start doing some major repeats on both sides of Marvel/DC in Hero Clix. Icons and Ultimates (Even though its argued Ultimates weren't repeats which is debatable upon each person. Some people consider them the same as the 616 counterparts some people don't.) Needless to say that is 170 figures (For the DC set even more for the Marvel Set.) that was not done before and weren't nobodys. Even if you decide that Critical Mass and Legacy had too many that you didn't know. That would still leave 130 figures that are pretty much well known. You might find a few that you never heard of.

At max 3 Expansions with 10 figures a piece makes 30 figures. That would take a little over 4 years before you get them all. Thats only if you collect one set.

Personally I would love to see Super Adaptiod, Annihallus, Black Knight, Ulik, and so on. I have been playing games like this since 1982 when Marvel RPG came out. So I am just a superhero nut. :mrgreen:

The fun thing is I have been playing HeroClix on the Hexagon maps here for almost 2 years now. I got 3 of the original Heroscapes. I have The Big G (Galactus) set up on it for a nice all out war. :) I got pics if you want to see them. :)

[Sweetcurse]

:nopics:

FINALLY GOT TO USE THAT!

[Manchine]

http://globaldefenseforce.com/images/BigG.jpg

[jcb231]

There's really only three main licensed entities I want to see in this game....Marvel, DC, and Star Wars. I think it would be awesome to have Aliens or Terminator or PRedator or whatever if they were done well, but I don't think a whole line of any of those woudl be justified. I think the first three I listed are workable as complete games with enough of a universe to keep expansions coming.

(jcb231 daydreams and looks forward to pitting Darth Vader, Boba Fett, and Krug against Hulk, Guilty McCreech, and Batman)

Too true. I want to know how many jedi's it takes to bring down supes.

That sounds like the setup for some sort of ultimate nerd joke that would be told at trek conventions.

"Hey fellas, how many jedi does it take to kill Superman?"




edit: nice picture....I really hope a Heroscape Galactus is nowhere near that large though. I want to actually be able to move him around.

[Manchine]

edit: nice picture....I really hope a Heroscape Galactus is nowhere near that large though. I want to actually be able to move him around.

I hope, if they ever do, they don't make it so large also.

[jcb231]

edit: nice picture....I really hope a Heroscape Galactus is nowhere near that large though. I want to actually be able to move him around.

I hope, if they ever do, they don't make it so large also.

I think they could cheat him down to around height 20 or so, if that. He just needs to be big....he doesn't need to be insanity big...there's a point where you just sort of get the idea. "Yeah, okay, I get it, he's hugetastic!"

[Zincdust]

i said 3 more
i wasnt including the confirmed ones (20)
that makes the total 50
name 30 more notable and recognizable by kids marvel heroes
thats harder, unless you just start making mutants from the xmen movies

Challenge accepted.

Here are 50 characters I think figure-worthy, not counting the 20 we have already seen.



What?! No Squirrel Girl? :D

One of the non-comic readers in the room actually knew her...I had to go look it up, and then decided no....too obscure. Would probably be a fun one though. :-)

She is quite obscure, but any gal who has beaten Thanos, Dr. Doom, MODOK, Deadpool, the Mandarin, etc. deserves to be in there! :lol: :wink:

[Aldin]

Welcome to the boards, Manchine!

On behalf of our Marvel expanding and hybrid community I extend to you a laurel and a hearty handshake.

As a new member, you can begin your journey on the path to the fellowship, praise and respect of your Heroscapers peers by checking out this announcement: http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=6970

~Aldin, cyborg/human relations

[IAmBatman]

I think a Galactus that big could work - just don't let him move at all - give him a power (Gravity Pull?) that brings figures to him. Or just have him eat away at the hexes until there are none left except those adjacent to Galactus. :P

[jcb231]

I think a Galactus that big could work - just don't let him move at all - give him a power (Gravity Pull?) that brings figures to him. Or just have him eat away at the hexes until there are none left except those adjacent to Galactus. :P

That would be interesting, but I don't think it would be as fun as having something you could stomp around the board. Plus I'd have to build may maps pretty solid then....no cheating with hollow spaces or lava underneath.

[IAmBatman]

Well, the hex eating should probably be more of a scenario thing. The gravity pull and some killer range would be enough for regular use.

[Chuckrock]

It's got to be part of the set at Walmart and Kmart to survive. The christmas set will tells us if Habro has been doing there job.

[oni]

I was hoping for no booster packs, but several large box sets. After "Conflicts Begins" there would be another box with 10 figures, terrain, and city objects (mail boxes, phone booths, cars (non driving), light posts, buildings, etc.) Each box set would build on the last, so at the end you would have 4-5 boxes and could build a mini city. Objects could be destroyed or thrown by larger/stronger figues.

(Sigh)

[ej]

I was hoping for no booster packs, but several large box sets. After "Conflicts Begins" there would be another box with 10 figures, terrain, and city objects (mail boxes, phone booths, cars (non driving), light posts, buildings, etc.) Each box set would build on the last, so at the end you would have 4-5 boxes and could build a mini city. Objects could be destroyed or thrown by larger/stronger figues.

(Sigh)

Quoted for Truth (although Truth has probably already seen it)

I'm with you. I was hoping that every 6-8 months there'd be a new MS, but perhaps the powers that be decided that it would be counter-productive. I can see the parents arguing with the kids now: But I BOUGHT you that already. NO, this set has Thing and Torch and Sandman in it. A whole new set? What a rip-off!

Our community would fangasm (clean up in toys) over multiple master sets as you describe, and I really wanted that to be the case, but since they're not doing that I'm thinking what I said above is the reason why.

Well, let's hope for some kick-ass terrain expansions for Marvel. Now that we know they're NOT doing multiple master sets let's list the different locations that are possible:

X-Mansion
Baxter Building
Avenger's Tower
Doctor Strange's Sanctum Santorum
The Daily Bugle
Subway (store or mass transit, doesn't matter)
Sewers
Savage Land (Oh, wait, that's Ticalla Jungle, isn't it?)
Rooftops
Alkali Lake (why not?)
Kansas (sand tiles with tumbleweeds :) Comes with a common squad of Phelps)
Docks
Mall
Lair of Apocalypse
Murderworld (let's see THAT name on Wal-Mart's shelves)
Central Park (Return of the Vagrants, complete with church ruins)

[jcb231]

Speciality Marvel terrain.....I'd like to see an urban castle pack. All terrain, all generic skycraper, no figures....just pieces that fit toghether kind of like the castle so we can build our own buildings. That would be sweet, especially if they came out with a couple different versions of it.

[Ursas]

I love the obscure 3rd and 4th stringers just as much as the next guy but I really hope they just get many of the main characters right ( on the DC side as well )and add some really nice terrain.

I can live with 40-60 characters for Marvel and DC each as long as the game has a lot more to it then just figures.

[Levi]

http://globaldefenseforce.com/images/BigG.jpg

Let me say three things to Manchine.

First, I'm jealous you have a Galactus

Second, Welcome to the boards, I feel like we've talked before

Third, That is a weird place for a lamp post.

[Havokscry]

seven.

[Manchine]

Let me say three things to Manchine.

First, I'm jealous you have a Galactus

Second, Welcome to the boards, I feel like we've talked before

Third, That is a weird place for a lamp post.


Ok so who are you. :) I am known as Manchine every where. :mrgreen:

[Levi]

I either go by my first name Levi or by Anthem. I used to play both HC and CoH tons. I also used to frequent the Hero Games (Champions) boards. The name Manchine definitely sticks out in my mind.



Let me say three things to Manchine.

First, I'm jealous you have a Galactus

Second, Welcome to the boards, I feel like we've talked before

Third, That is a weird place for a lamp post.


Ok so who are you. :) I am known as Manchine every where. :mrgreen:

[ninthdoc]

http://heroscapers.com/community/images/avatars/110520464746a1645fa3dfb.jpg

seven.

But... But... But your avatar says "5". I'm so confused! :cry:

[Ricky007]

I'd say 2-3 a year, and a Master Set every 2 years.

[Manchine]

I either go by my first name Levi or by Anthem. I used to play both HC and CoH tons. I also used to frequent the Hero Games (Champions) boards. The name Manchine definitely sticks out in my mind.



Let me say three things to Manchine.

First, I'm jealous you have a Galactus

Second, Welcome to the boards, I feel like we've talked before

Third, That is a weird place for a lamp post.


Ok so who are you. :) I am known as Manchine every where. :mrgreen:

I think I remember a Levi on the Hero's boards. I don't go there as often but I do go over there. :)

[Havokscry]

http://heroscapers.com/community/images/avatars/110520464746a1645fa3dfb.jpg

seven.

But... But... But your avatar says "5". I'm so confused! :cry:

I was drinking last night and had a hard time counting. You're absolutely correct. 5!

[CandyMakingMaster]

I'm as excited as when Pringles announces a new flavor!

Pringles suck. :puke:
They aren't even real potato chips!

[ninthdoc]

I'm as excited as when Pringles announces a new flavor!

Pringles suck. :puke:
They aren't even real potato chips!

Wow! Thanks for your input! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[ej]

I'm as excited as when Pringles announces a new flavor!

Pringles suck. :puke:
They aren't even real potato chips!

:shock:

He... did you see what he... he... Pringles, man! He dissed the Pringles! The lifeblood of my childhood! :cry:

[CandyMakingMaster]

Well, of course. :wink:
Lays are much better. :P
Plus, I don't think Pringles even has Salt & Vinegar! :chainsaw:
CURSE YOU, PRINGLES! :evil:

P.S.: They aren't real because they are too weird & crispy! :nkick: :puke:

[HS Beast]

Re: The earlier debate about C-List and D-List characters...

That's why you package them with A-List and B-List characters that people will want. And then when someone buys their Wolverine pack and gets some characters they never or have barely heard of, they'll want to find out who they are. So you have them going to Wikipedia or the Comic shops and reading and finding out about them. Which is always good.

Plus you know a lot of current and former comic fans are buying these sets for and to play with their kids. So even if the kids don't find the characters recognizable, they're a fun sense of nostalgia for the older fans who read comics when they were kids. So it serves a purpose there, especially for adult comic fans who want to introduce comics to their kids who don't think they're cool.

Just look at how Toy Biz and now Hasbro (who also makes Heroscape) handles Marvel Legends. Yeah, you have your A and B-List characters leading the assortments to appeal to the kids and retailers. But they do C-List and D-List characters as well along with them, so they can appeal to everyone. Since everyone is someone's favorite character. :)

[hex706f726368]

Well, of course. :wink:
Lays are much better. :P
Plus, I don't think Pringles even has Salt & Vinegar! :chainsaw:
CURSE YOU, PRINGLES! :evil:

P.S.: They aren't real because they are too weird & crispy! :nkick: :puke:

You have fialed at the internet.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/413N2BJNCWL._AA280_PIbundle-14,TopRight,0,0_AA280_SH20_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Pringles-Potato-Vinegar-5-75-Ounce-Packages/dp/B000F4N08K

[IAmBatman]

Re: The earlier debate about C-List and D-List characters...

That's why you package them with A-List and B-List characters that people will want. And then when someone buys their Wolverine pack and gets some characters they never or have barely heard of, they'll want to find out who they are. So you have them going to Wikipedia or the Comic shops and reading and finding out about them. Which is always good.

Plus you know a lot of current and former comic fans are buying these sets for and to play with their kids. So even if the kids don't find the characters recognizable, they're a fun sense of nostalgia for the older fans who read comics when they were kids. So it serves a purpose there, especially for adult comic fans who want to introduce comics to their kids who don't think they're cool.

Just look at how Toy Biz and now Hasbro (who also makes Heroscape) handles Marvel Legends. Yeah, you have your A and B-List characters leading the assortments to appeal to the kids and retailers. But they do C-List and D-List characters as well along with them, so they can appeal to everyone. Since everyone is someone's favorite character. :)

I'd be interested in seeing everyone's breakdown of the characters we've got so far and where they'd fall on these respective "lists" in terms of recognizability, etc. Let's see if I can't take a stab at it ...

A-List (10)
Spiderman

Hulk

Captain America

Silver Surfer (really more A-, but did just have a big movie).

Iron Man (same as Surfer, but he's got a movie coming out).

Punisher

Thing

Invisible Woman

Human Torch

Doc Ock (probably the most well known Spidey villain out there).

B-List (6)
Venom (probably B+ he's a borderline one).

Dr. Doom (despite the FF movies, doesn't quite make A list, IMO).

Sandman (probably more a B-, he was in the last movie, but he had a so-so impact).

Thanos (really more a B-, but I'm a DC fan and I've heard of him before, so that's something, anyway).

Beast (X-Men movies, cartoons, and his distinctive looks save him from C status).

Bullseye (he made the mediocre Daredevil movie, so he deserves B status, if only by a bit).

C-List (4)
Red Skull (probably a C+ - he's here because Cap, despite being recognizable, doesn't get a lot of media love).

Abomination (a possible C-).

Black Panther (I almost typed Black Cat - that should tell you something right there. Still, a stable on the Avengers, so D would be too low).

Super Skrull (well known to FF fans, but hasn't really gotten much love from the rest of media, particularly the movie world).

So, by my (admittedly subjective) ratings, out of the 20 figures released, 10 are A-list, 6 B-list, and 4 C-list. That holds some promise that we might get a few lesser known characters, but I wouldn't hold out any hopes for the obscure ones (D-list) or even as many C-listers as we'd probably like. They're simply burning through A and B listers at too high a rate to carry the massive hordes of C and D listers not yet accounted for.

[johnny139]

I agree for the most part, Bats.

But the Daredevil movie wasn't mediocre! The edited version is, but Director's Cut was a pretty good movie, on par with most of Marvel's movies.

[Manchine]

My A - B lister would be

A List
Spiderman

Captain America

Hulk

Silver Surfer

Iron Man

Punisher

Thing

Invisible Woman

Human Torch

Doc Ock (Green Goblin is far more known)

Venom

Dr. Doom (The Main Marvel Villain).

Sandman (A-)

Thanos

Beast

Bullseye (A-)

Red Skull (A-).

Abomination (a possible A- either that or a B+).

Super Skrull (Same as above)


B Lister

Black Panther (Solid B)

[jcb231]

In therms of general public recognition, I'd speculate it's something like this....

C-listers, recognized by fans of the medium or the generally pop culture savvy, but certainly above being obscure or minor within their medium.
-Black Panther
-Thanos
-Red Skull
-Bullseye (despite the movie)
-Abomination
-Super-Skrull

B-listers, widely recognized by the public but not always known in detail.
-Sandman
-Punisher
-Beast
-Silver Surfer
-Iron Man
-Venom

A-listers, known to most people....even non-fans can often describe these characters rather well.
-Human Torch
-Invisible Woman
-Thing
-Doctor Doom
-Doctor Octopus

Beyond A-listers...so ingrained in the pop culture that they are icons transcending the source material...only the very sheltered do not know them.
-Spider-Man
-Hulk
-Captain America

[Manchine]

In therms of general public recognition, I'd speculate it's something like this....



See recognized by the general and recognized by comic fans are two different things. Comic fans would say A Listers would be different.

[HS Beast]

See recognized by the general and recognized by comic fans are two different things. Comic fans would say A Listers would be different.
But the topic was recognizable by the general public.

Thankfully due to movies, a lot of normally B-List characters are sliding more A-List.

[IAmBatman]

Yes, if we were only worried about what would sell to comic book fans (and if there were enough comic book fans to easily carry the game on their own) then this would be a non issue, because they'd come out with scores and scores of D listers after finishing off the others. Our speculation is based on having enough mass market appeal to get us actual D-listers. I figured opinions would vary on this, but I think we can all agree - not a whole lot of C listers so far, and really no D listers.

[ej]

Is Aunt May a C-lister or a D-lister?

[ninthdoc]

Aunt May is an AARP-lister.

[Manchine]

Yes, if we were only worried about what would sell to comic book fans (and if there were enough comic book fans to easily carry the game on their own) then this would be a non issue, because they'd come out with scores and scores of D listers after finishing off the others. Our speculation is based on having enough mass market appeal to get us actual D-listers. I figured opinions would vary on this, but I think we can all agree - not a whole lot of C listers so far, and really no D listers.

Of course there is due to the success of Hero Clix. If the game catches on, this is the biggest thing. If enough people buy Marvel Heroscape you betcha Heroscape will make more.



I think jcb231 put it best for A / B / C listers for the general public. We haven't even touched some characters. Xmen and Avengers specifically.

[IAmBatman]

Yes, we haven't touched some characters, but how many A listers are left? There's a bunch of X-Men, Thor, and ... ?

[Manchine]

A lister, according to the General Public Not a Xcharacter or Thor

Green Goblin, Mr Fantastic, Daredevil, and Kingpin.

These are characters not already known to be coming out.

[Manchine]

Oh and I almost forgot Doctor Strange.

[IAmBatman]

I'd agree with you on all of those - so that makes 5 non X-Men A-listers. And about how many X-Men A-listers do we have?
Off the top of my head ... Prof X, Nightcrawler, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman (being kind there), Storm, Wolverine (beyond A-lister, really), and, uh ... that's about it for the heroes - I see Rogue, Gambit, and Colossus as more B-listers. For villains, Magneto is an A-lister, maybe Sabretooth and Mystique (might be a stretch). Apocalypse, Sentinels, and thugs like Blob, Pyro, Toad, etc., are all B-listers or lower, IMO.
So, in my estimation, that's about 10 X-Men A-listers not yet released, and 5 non X-Men A-listers. So that's only 15 A-listers left. At the rate their going, the only way they'll continue expansion past about three or four more waves is by dipping deep into that B-D pile. Luckily, I think there are still plenty of X-Men and Avenger B-listers floating around to pick up some of the slack once all the A-listers are gone.

[Manchine]

Juggernaut. :)


There are a TON of B Listers at least any B listers are characters that have been in Movies, the cartoons, or Major Video Games (Marvel Ultimate Allaince comes to mind). Any "GOOD" classic Spiderman Villain is a B Lister. :)

[Havokscry]

It all depends on how you look at it. Sandman and Doc Ock really haven't been that relevant in Marvel comics for awhile, so I wouldn't even call them A or B list in terms of importance in storylines over the last three or four years. In terms of comic sales, Captain America and Iron Man were probably mid-range sellers at Marvel until recently when the Civil War storyline made their titles popular again.

If you rate based which character appeared in a Marvel movie, then character's like Doc Ock and Sandman would be more recognizable to the general public, than a Thanos or Black Panther. I guess the ultimate test to see where the developers are getting their character selections from will be if they release a Blade figure in the next two to three waves. If they do release a figure, the three movies have to be the primary reason, since his monthly title just flatlined.

Who the heck knew who Nick Fury was until David Hasselhoff brilliantly transitioned the character to the Silver Screen?? Now, because of that wonderful movie, we may see a Nick Fury figure ten or fifteen waves down the road.

[johnny139]

Who the heck knew who Nick Fury was until David Hasselhoff brilliantly transitioned the character to the Silver Screen?? Now, because of that wonderful movie, we may see a Nick Fury figure ten or fifteen waves down the road.

You really are a glutton for punishment, aren't you? :lol:

[CandyMakingMaster]

Well, of course. :wink:
Lays are much better. :P
Plus, I don't think Pringles even has Salt & Vinegar! :chainsaw:
CURSE YOU, PRINGLES! :evil:

P.S.: They aren't real because they are too weird & crispy! :nkick: :puke:

You have fialed at the internet.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/413N2BJNCWL._AA280_PIbundle-14,TopRight,0,0_AA280_SH20_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Pringles-Potato-Vinegar-5-75-Ounce-Packages/dp/B000F4N08K
Still looks HORRIBLE!!! :puke:

[IAmBatman]

Enough with the vomiting already - don't make me start deleting your posts. :x

[CandyMakingMaster]

Enough with the vomiting already - don't make me start deleting your posts. :x
Hey, I'm trying to have fun!
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
NOW, THEY'RE PUKING ON SOMETHING!!! EACH OTHER!!!
:banana:
I'M OFF THE HOOK!!! YAAAY!!! :lol:

[jcb231]

I didn't really bother to list characters that haven't been announced yet.

I'd put Wolverine in the same category as Spidey....he transcends A-list.

[Sherman Davies]

I didn't really bother to list characters that haven't been announced yet.

I'd put Wolverine in the same category as Spidey....he transcends A-list.

*puts on "#1 Spider-Man fan" t-shirt*

I dunno about that - Wolverine doesn't even have a theme song. Plus, I see way more kids walking around wearing Spidey stuff than Wolverine stuff. 'Nuff said. :wink:

[IAmBatman]

Wolverine ... Wolverine ...
does whatever a Wolverine can ...
Snarls a snarl, any size
Scratches his fur and eats flies
Look out ...
here comes a nearly extinct weasel ...

Is his smell strong?
Listen, bub
You'll never see him in a tub
Take a look in the grass
Hey there
There goes his Wolvie behind

In the chill of the night
At the scene of the crime
Four legs on the ground
He arrives out of time

Wolverine ... Wolverine ...
Cantankerous wilderness Wolverine
Hygiene and breath mints
He's ignored
Survival of the species is his reward

To him, life is a great big snarl fest
Wherever there's some forests
You won't fine the Wolverine (he's endangered!)

[ej]

:supersizerofl:

And thanks for saving me the time, Bats.

[Sherman Davies]

Hey, I think Wolverine's looking for a new PR person. Interested?

[rdhight]

Even within the nirvana of total recognizability that Wolverine and Spider-Man occupy, Spidey has to be a little more exalted because of greater little kid appeal. "With great power comes great responsibility" skews a bit younger than "find the bad guy, kill him with extremely sharp knives, doesn't matter if I get hurt because I'll heal right up."

[ej]

Even within the nirvana of total recognizability that Wolverine and Spider-Man occupy, Spidey has to be a little more exalted because of greater little kid appeal. "With great power comes great responsibility" skews a bit younger than "find the bad guy, kill him with extremely sharp knives, doesn't matter if I get hurt because I'll heal right up."

I once showed the character of Wolverine to my Biology teacher. I even explained his healing power to him.

...

Yes, yes I did.

Really.

What? No, not til I was in college. Why?

[jcb231]

Spider-Man is bigger than Wolverine or the Hulk or Captain America...or all of them put together, actually.....but they are all still huge, living in, as you say, that nirvana of total recognizability.

[Tiak]

I have to be honest here, I was blown away by the Hulk and Captain America Sculpts in Heroscape. That Hulk is the Hulk I always wanted In Heroclix. I liked them so much I bought two sets right away. And i don;t know if any of you play Heroclix but the Captain America Sculpt in the latest heroclix release was less than Impressive. The Captain America in Heroscape is great and what Cap should look like. The only thing I am a little disappointed in is the Character selection for the first set. The Red skull would not be my first choice and the sculot was not that great.
Since the number of figures we see per year might be limited I would like to see large gift sets of the Avengers or X-Men for example. Like what they do for the Marvel Legends figures. They could do good and evil collector sets.

[dickflea]

Welcome to Heroscapers Manchine! I'm glad my post back at HCrealms brought you here. For those who don't know, Manchine is a super old time member in the Heroclix forums, kind of like Grungebob here, and a supercool guy to boot. It's great to see you here man hopefully we'll see you often as I'm sure you'll enjoy this site.

As for your question, I would also predict two releases per year, but they seem to be small expansions, maybe only two booster per each.


Which one were you. :)

Yes I will be here. I already am trying to figure everything out over here. Pretty much I have been looking over the Character Creations things. Even PMed a few people. :)Manchine!! I hear you are the Grungebob of Heroclix!! Welcome to the Heroscape world. Maybe I should go visit your world as well... A little foreign exchange perhaps? :lol: Great to have you here!! :lol:


This is like the universe crossovers in comics.... :lol:

[that guy]

I think they will stretch out as many packs as possible. You want the Fantastic Four? OK, here's three of them. You want the fourth? Buy the next set. X-Men have already been split up, with Beast in the pack. After Wave 1 from ClassicScape everything has been split up into different packs. It doesn't bother me because I buy everything anyway. :)

[NecroBlade]

X-Men have already been split up, with Beast in the pack.Well I would hope so, there are like 509366 of them.

After Wave 1 from ClassicScape everything has been split up into different packs. It doesn't bother me because I buy everything anyway. :)Not true. Look at the Ashigaru. There are probably other examples, too.

[HS Beast]

I think they will stretch out as many packs as possible. You want the Fantastic Four? OK, here's three of them. You want the fourth? Buy the next set. X-Men have already been split up, with Beast in the pack. After Wave 1 from ClassicScape everything has been split up into different packs. It doesn't bother me because I buy everything anyway. :)
Well, they may be releasing him seperately because he's also an Avenger.

Though I doubt it, I'm sure we'll see more X-Men in the next expansion. :)