Wave five already out? Slowly turning into memory lane.

[Su-Bak-Na]

Okay so I'm looking through a magazine I just got and It has a picture for the build the battle of all time sweeps.There are three small hexagon shaped pictures and the on with Q9 in it hhas a text box next to it saying Wave-5 Expansion Set meaning that RV TT is Wave 5.

[Grungebob]

Wrong!!

[Su-Bak-Na]

How is it wrong the text box connect to the Q9 picture and nothing else.

[bunjee]

Okay so I'm looking through a magazine I just got and It has a picture for the build the battle of all time sweeps.There are three small hexagon shaped pictures and the on with Q9 in it hhas a text box next to it saying Wave-5 Expansion Set meaning that RV TT is Wave 5.

More likely they just don't understand the Hersocape wave/expansion system. If the large heroes and terrain releases counted as "waves" then Zanafor's Discovery would have been 5 because of RttFF and Orm's. But it says right on the package that it is Collection 4
http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/products/4413515708ea_Main400.jpg

[Su-Bak-Na]

Well the add was made by hasbro you could tell by how profesionally made it was. I know about Wave 4 being called Collection 4.

[shakey_snake]

It could be right, Hasbro only officially in wave 4 started numbering the waves. I'd say they set the precedent now.

Not to say their numbering system would make much sense, although in a marketing sense it would.

[Grungebob]

When Thora's arrives on the shelf it will say Collection 5

[bunjee]

Well the add was made by hasbro you could tell by how profesionally made it was.

I can make an incredibly professional ad. I do it all the time. Doesn't mean it is made by Hasbro. Where was it telling you to buy the product?

And to be honest, the marketing department at Hasbro could well have messed it up. Hand a picture to a designer without full info, they'll try and find out and sometimes get it wrong.

How is this. If Thora's Vengeance comes out with "Collection 6" on the packaging, I'll mail you one as an admittance that I am wrong.

But I'm not.

[Su-Bak-Na]

You can't be completly sure, Hasbro may have made changes we don't know about. Edit: Response to GB's post.

[Su-Bak-Na]

Well the add was made by hasbro you could tell by how profesionally made it was.

I can make an incredibly professional ad. I do it all the time. Doesn't mean it is made by Hasbro. Where was it telling you to buy the product?

And to be honest, the marketing department at Hasbro could well have messed it up. Hand a picture to a designer without full info, they'll try and find out and sometimes get it wrong.

How is this. If Thora's Vengeance comes out with "Collection 6" on the packaging, I'll mail you one as an admittance that I am wrong.

But I'm not.

It wasn't accually telling you to buy it, I know it was made by Hasbro because the add setup looks exactly like the offical site setup.

[K/H_Addict]

can i have one too, bunjee?

[shakey_snake]

It wasn't accually telling you to buy it, I know it was made by Hasbro because the add setup looks exactly like the offical site setup. Scan or Pic maybe?

[bunjee]

can i have one too, bunjee? No. single offer to Su-Bak-Na.

Still stands.

[K/H_Addict]

i agree w/ shakey_snake


what magazine is this? maybe they have a website we can check out?

[Su-Bak-Na]

It wasn't accually telling you to buy it, I know it was made by Hasbro because the add setup looks exactly like the offical site setup. Scan or Pic maybe?

Well I'm not really sure how to upload pics. The magazine site has nothing on it K/H.

[toddrew]

If you've got a scan, you can just post the picture on some image hosting site and post the link or thumbnail here.

[CupidsArt]

Well the add was made by hasbro you could tell by how profesionally made it was.

I can make an incredibly professional ad. I do it all the time. Doesn't mean it is made by Hasbro. Where was it telling you to buy the product?

And to be honest, the marketing department at Hasbro could well have messed it up. Hand a picture to a designer without full info, they'll try and find out and sometimes get it wrong.

How is this. If Thora's Vengeance comes out with "Collection 6" on the packaging, I'll mail you one as an admittance that I am wrong.

But I'm not.


I agree, I can do something very prof., for example a band poster I did 3 weeks ago. It was bad ass except for the fact that my order said the band's name was 40 Below, when actually the bands name is 40 Below Summer. I had to contact 3 different people to prove to my sales person that this was the band's name.

Sure enough they come to pick up their posters and guess what, the band's name is 40 Below SUMMER, not just 40 below.

this is in a small company, in a large company like Hasbro things can get lost. If they have hired an ad agency then it could go through 6 different people before it ever hits the designers desk. If someone isn't paying attention then something will be wrong. Wave 4.5 can be lost in translation, this could also be a hype ad. Get people to notice a flaw, those people point out the mistake to everyone else, everyone begins debating it or people become interested in what it is and become frantic trying to find the WAVE 5.


Is Wave 5 out? Find out on the next "Hasbro Mistake"!!!!

*Duh Dun DUH!!!!! * a lady screams.

[truth]

You can't be completly sure, Hasbro may have made changes we don't know about. Edit: Response to GB's post.

How dare you question GB!? He is sees and knows all! :bowdown:

No seriously... your wrong.

[truth]

Well the add was made by hasbro you could tell by how profesionally made it was.

I can make an incredibly professional ad. I do it all the time. Doesn't mean it is made by Hasbro. Where was it telling you to buy the product?

And to be honest, the marketing department at Hasbro could well have messed it up. Hand a picture to a designer without full info, they'll try and find out and sometimes get it wrong.

How is this. If Thora's Vengeance comes out with "Collection 6" on the packaging, I'll mail you one as an admittance that I am wrong.

But I'm not.


I agree I can do something very prof. for example a band poster I did 3 weeks ago. It was bad ass except for the fact that my order said the band's name was 40 Below, when actually the bands name is 40 Below Summer. I had to contact 3 different people to prove to my sales person that this was the band's name.

Sure enough they come to pick up their posters and guess what the band's name is 40 Below SUMMER, not just 40 below.

this is in a small company, in a large company like Hasbro things can get lost. If they have hired an ad agency then it could go through 6 different people before it ever hits the designers desk. If someone isn't paying attention then something will be wrong. Wave 4.5 can be lost in translation, this could also be a hype ad. Get people to notice a flaw, those people point out the mistake to everyone else, everyone begins debating it or people become interested in what it is and become frantic trying to find the WAVE 5.


Is Wave 5 out? Find out on the next "Hasbro Mistake"!!!!

*Duh Dun DUH!!!!! * a lady screams.

No FREAKING way!! We did a comedy sketch where we did a whole song and dance routine as a mock boy band named DUH DUH DUHHHHHH 40 BELOW! *a lady screams*

[CupidsArt]

No FREAKING way!! We did a comedy sketch where we did a whole song and dance routine as a mock boy band named DUH DUH DUHHHHHH 40 BELOW! *a lady screams*

:rofl:

[Su-Bak-Na]

Okay, well after all of the posts I'm pretty sure you are right about it being a mistake by Hasbro, but I thought this would be somthing interesting to bring up. But just in case i will take up on Bunjee's offer

[jcb231]

It wasn't accually telling you to buy it, I know it was made by Hasbro because the add setup looks exactly like the offical site setup. Scan or Pic maybe?

Well I'm not really sure how to upload pics. The magazine site has nothing on it K/H.

I respect you and your past posts, but if you can't at least tell us the name of the magazine, where and when you saw it, or otherwise throw us some sort of bone towards finding this ad, I'm going to have to call "bull****" on the whole thing, which as we know ends all further argument and destroys all credibility of this line of discussion....of course. :-P

And I'm getting ready to call it.....don't make me.....I'll just say "bull...." for now so I'm halfway there. :-)

Prove me wrong....

[Su-Bak-Na]

I'm serious about this I would post a picture if I knew how to, I wouldn't post anything unless I meant what was being said. I wan't to be known as a trustworthy person. If anyone wants to tell me how to add pictures I will post it as soon as I get the chance.

[markwars]

Start with the name of the magazine. :wink:

[Su-Bak-Na]

It's a Boy Scouts magazine Boys' Life.

[markwars]

OK, that's a good start. Now others can know where to look. :)

[shakey_snake]

I'm serious about this I would post a picture if I knew how to, check your PM box.

[Su-Bak-Na]

OK I'll get a picture up soon.

[jcb231]

It's a Boy Scouts magazine Boys' Life.

Slow but sure.

Why is it so hard for us to get info from you?

Why couldn't you have just posted the magazine name, issue number, volume, month, whatever all in the first post, to make it easy for us to find?

Something like this:

"TIME magazine from June 16th, 2003 (the one with Hillary Clinton on the cover) has a full page ad for Kia on page 33...check it out!"

The fact that you are making it so difficult is why folks are skeptical.

If you are telling the truth, you have nothing to lose....just post ALL the info about the magazine so we know exactly what issue to look at. That way if you can't scan and post a picture it won't matter...someone else will find a pic and post it, or at least confirm the info.

[Su-Bak-Na]

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/205/armen6060al.jpg

Here it is.

[shakey_snake]

Can we maybe see the whole thing?

[Su-Bak-Na]

Well you can't read the Wave 5 part if I do show the whole since this was my first time doing this it was a crapload of work and I'm going to the comunity pool pretty soon. I will probobly do it tomorrow, if not at least you got the part that matters.

[Augray]

Grungebob is right. Thora's will be Collection 5.

[toddrew]

Well you can't read the Wave 5 part if I do show the whole

Am I the only one who doesn't see the 'Wave 5 part'?

[Su-Bak-Na]

It says it rigth next to Q9's picture in black text.

[Pilgrim]

I see it. Weird.

[Hahnarama]

I can make an incredibly professional ad. I do it all the time. Doesn't mean it is made by Hasbro.

I'm not going to say a word......... :P

[mrbistro]

This is like pulling teeth. We want to see the whole ad so we can see who it came from. And please give the month, issue number and volume number of the magazine. After you're back from the community pool, of course.

[Ted_Danson]

Not to sound negative, but who cares? Proof has already been established, anyone who is SO sure about it being false, wait until Thora's Vengance comes out. Don't make this dude do extra work because you think you know more. He was just trying to tell everyone what he found. I think it is cool, and until solid evidence can be produced against it, I will enjoy my set of wave 5 giant heroes and tundra.

[Su-Bak-Na]

This is like pulling teeth. We want to see the whole ad so we can see who it came from. And please give the month, issue number and volume number of the magazine. After you're back from the community pool, of course.

All I know is it was the July issue. I will post a picture of the full add tomorrow.

[mrbistro]

I think it is cool, and until solid evidence can be produced against it, I will enjoy my set of wave 5 giant heroes and tundra.

I would hope you could enjoy your giant heroes and tundra no matter what it's called. But to answer your question, we're not rabidly obsessed with the numbering of waves. Oh sure, we're all Heroscape geeks here. No doubt. But we're merely interested in knowing where this info comes from , since Hasbro and its distributors have both said the Heroes and Tundra sets were not Wave 5. We're just curious because either A) Hasbro made a mistake in the ad, or B) the ad comes from a third party. Just mild curiosity is all. And you can't blame folks for being jumpy, since we've been fooled before.

[toddrew]

It says it rigth next to Q9's picture in black text.

I've zero reason to disbelieve the ad is real - I'm just concerned for my easily shaken sanity. Here's the picture I'm seeing:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d45/toddrew/heroscapead.jpg

and I don't see where it says wave or collection 5. All I see is about 2/3 of Major Q-9 and the white block text "Major Q" and possibly some indescernible text in red to the left of that image. Is that what others see?

[Grungebob]

You guys give the guy a break. He has nothing to gain from this so just cut him some slack.

http://upload4.postimage.org/511199/heroscapead.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/511199/photo_hosting.html)

[toddrew]

Thanks, GB. I've really got to get some photoshop skilz. I was looking at what turns out to be the red negative space as the actual text :oops: I am a little slow.

[Pathdoc]

My son has a subscription to Boy's Life so I looked last night. There is an ad. Basically, it is the same ad that is on Hasbro's web site for the "Build the battle of all time" contest. (The ad that you see at the top of the page after you click on the link on the Heroscape home page.) In addition to the graphics showing the tundra to the left and the castle to the right, there are three individual images. One is of SGT. Drake Alexander and has in black lettering "Master Set". One is of the castle set and has in black lettering "Castle Expansion Set". The final one is the pic that Su-Bak-Na posted with "Wave-5 Expansion Set" next to it.

Basically, the ad is for the "Build the battle of all time" contest. The ad is real.

[Pathdoc]

A picture is worth a thousand words.

http://www.tupics.com/basic/debbiewinters/scan0002.jpg

[Su-Bak-Na]

Thank you for posting the picture for me, now I hope everybody is satisfied.

[Pathdoc]

No problem.

Anyone who wants the pic should copy it. It will only be up for a week as my wife seems to think that the pics for her eBay auctions are more important!

EDIT: Image is now in the Heroscaper's gallery as well!

[mrbistro]

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Indeed! That's what we were looking for! I'd chalk that up to Hasbro marketing. But while we're looking at it, does anyone else get as misty eyed as I do looking at that castle under siege? It's just... so... beautiful.

[Pathdoc]

Yes, I know the feeling. :D

[bunjee]

snip out text, I hadn't read the full thread.

All else, I wasn't trying to say SBN was lying, I was just saying that I'm positive that Thora's is going to be Collection 5 and that the ad is in error. No big deal. Wuf, 5 pages. Thank you for the full ad image.

Perhaps you could put it up in the scapers gallery and save your space for the ebay images :wink:

[Hahnarama]

Maybe it's just me but does anyone else feel slighted or maybe imature becasue they are targeting ads in a magazine targeted towards 8-12 year olds and not in Time or Newsweek? :P

[Pathdoc]

Good idea bunjee! It is up there now.

[bunjee]

Maybe it's just me but does anyone else feel slighted or maybe imature becasue they are targeting ads in a magazine targeted towards 8-12 year olds and not in Time or Newsweek? :PI feel more slighted that they just don't have the product on the shelves. How do you think those boy scouts parents will feel when their kid asks them for product that isn't on the shelves.

[jcb231]

This is like pulling teeth. We want to see the whole ad so we can see who it came from. And please give the month, issue number and volume number of the magazine. After you're back from the community pool, of course.

All I know is it was the July issue. I will post a picture of the full add tomorrow.

Look kid, we were not trying to give you a hard time, really. I'm actually on your side now, and think you may have found an interesting error or quirk or change of some sort. I just wanted to see the ad in context for myself. And to do that, I needed to know where you found it.

It takes about 30 seconds or less to give us that info. Just take the magazine, type the official magazine title, month/issue/voulme number or whatever into a post, and tell us the page number. Maybe let us know where someone can find this magazine...is it carried on news-stands? What's on the cover so we know what to look for? That sort of thing....just basic, easy to provide, helpful info. Next time you find something in a magazine that you want to tell folks about, give them that info so they know where to find it. Just like the kind of no-brainer info you'd use to cite a research source.

[Su-Bak-Na]

I going to clear up why I couldn't provide more information: Okay I'm over at some one elses house I find the magazine and look through it because I thought this is the kind of magazine that would have a Heroscape add, I found it asked if I could rip the page out and all I have now is the page. Oh and don't call me a kid again.

[Pathdoc]

Okay. The magazine is Boy's Life, the July 2006 edition. ISBN is 0006-8608. As far as I am aware, it is NOT available on news stands. You get it by being an Explorer Scout, Boy Scout, Cub Scout, or a Scout Leader. A subscription is included with membership dues and is free to adult leaders (like myself). The ad is on page 47. The web site for the magazine is www.boyslife.org. The ads in the magazine do not appear to be on the web site.

[jcb231]

I going to clear up why I couldn't provide more information: Okay I'm over at some one elses house I find the magazine and look through it because I thought this is the kind of magazine that would have a Heroscape add, I found it asked if I could rip the page out and all I have now is the page. Oh and don't call me a kid again.

See, you could have provided that little useful tidbit from the get-go, saving this whole conversation...that's all I'm saying.

I didn't mean "kid" as an insult, and apologize if you took it that way. I meant it to refer to you as a kid, a younger person. Not as some sort of inferior person or anything. Sorry if you took it that way.

[MBSowards]

When people get upset over the word kid being used, I think we need this topic locked or closed or something.

[ultradoug]

how dare you say kid! Ban him!! PANNIC kid was used! OH NO! KID Evil! DONT SAY KID how dare you! I'm offended! ARgghhh LOCK LOCK pannic! Ignore! Flame! destory! delete! arrgghh.

[netherspirit]

Thats not helping UD.

[Su-Bak-Na]

I knew what you meant by kid I was just saying that I wasn't one, probobly said it in a to harsh of a way, sorry about that.

[markwars]

So are we really five days away from release?

[netherspirit]

So are we really five days away from release?

Doubt it.

[markwars]

My wallet rejoices.

[toddrew]

My wallet rejoices.

It took me 20+ years, but I've come to know why my dad was cranky in times of Joy, and inexplicably happy when the trip to Disneyland didn't come together :)

I'm with you, markwars, is what I'm saying. I was looking forward to the July 9 shipdate from HouseMouse (of Collection 5 :) ), but am equally looking forward to the reprieve.

Threadjack of convenience: Has anyone had any confirmation from HMG that the shipping date has been delayed?

[markwars]

I haven't received any notice since I reserved them.

[mrbistro]

My wallet rejoices.

Oi. I'm with you there. Gonna have to take out a personal loan just for castles. I mean technically you really need thirty-two sets to truly experience castles the way they were meant to be, right?

[markwars]

That's what ninthdoc's been sayin'. :P

[Jonathan]

My wallet rejoices.

Oi. I'm with you there. Gonna have to take out a personal loan just for castles. I mean technically you really need thirty-two sets to truly experience castles the way they were meant to be, right?

Hilarious!

I'm digging around in my couch cushions hoping for a pitiful one or two sets :D

[markwars]

Has anyone emailed Sandra lately?

[cavie]

Has anyone emailed Sandra lately?

I just did.

[ReverendBayes]

I pre-ordered 3 TV in late March from HouseMouse.

I emailed Sandra yesterday morning to get the latest scoop and will report here as soon as I hear something.

[Teamski]

I won't preorder squat until I know what the unique/common mix is for TV.....

-Ski

[jcb231]

I knew what you meant by kid I was just saying that I wasn't one, probobly said it in a to harsh of a way, sorry about that.

Sorry again. I was so sure you were somewhere in the 14-16 range from previous threads and your writing style.....sorry if I was wrong.

[jcb231]

I won't preorder squat until I know what the unique/common mix is for TV.....

-Ski

Are you not getting at least one of each? Why not buy a set?

I'm planning on pre-ordering soon, because I know I will want at least one of each. I can always get my extra commons later, once sites start selling individual packs or they show up in actual stores (if they ever do).

[Su-Bak-Na]

I knew what you meant by kid I was just saying that I wasn't one, probobly said it in a to harsh of a way, sorry about that.

Sorry again. I was so sure you were somewhere in the 14-16 range from previous threads and your writing style.....sorry if I was wrong.

I'm 18 so you were close. :D

[Teamski]

I won't preorder squat until I know what the unique/common mix is for TV.....

-Ski

Are you not getting at least one of each? Why not buy a set?

I'm planning on pre-ordering soon, because I know I will want at least one of each. I can always get my extra commons later, once sites start selling individual packs or they show up in actual stores (if they ever do).

To save on shipping, it's always better to get everything at once. I need 5 of each common and 2 of each unique (I keep 1 of each MIB). If I don't know which pack is which, I can't order.....

-Ski

[Joah]

Has anyone emailed Sandra lately? :poke: ouch. That is gonna hurt.

[mrbistro]

Has anyone emailed Sandra lately? :poke: ouch. That is gonna hurt.

Yeah. Being an email attachment is so dehumanizing.

[markwars]

Teamski I can totally understand your dilemma. I just went ahead and ordered enough to make sure I get the required amounts no matter what. If I'm left with extras I'll either use them as trade bait, prizes for get togethers, or I'll return them to Walmart to buy other HS stuff with.

[HouseMouseGames]

Has anyone emailed Sandra lately?

Guess I should have spoken up earlier, but I was enjoying all the speculation on whether Wave 5 was one of the already-released products.

Here's the situation so far:

Wave 5--Moved to early August
Castle--Still scheduled for early August
Thaelenk replenishment stock--early August (Good deals available at HouseMouse for multiple sets allocated from this August replenishment)

The shipment scheduled for July 9 will arrive on schedule BUT the ship is NOT carrying Wave 5 as we believed. It is carrying previously-released Waves for some of the "big boys".

If I had to make a positive statement about everything arriving in August, it would be that you can save a lot by ordering and shipping the new products together. But personally, I would have preferred some 'breathing room" between these releases.

[GaryLASQ]

The shipment scheduled for July 9 will arrive on schedule BUT the ship is NOT carrying Wave 5 as we believed. It is carrying previously-released Waves for some of the "big boys".if there is even one single box of Orm's Return on that boat then i hope it sinks.

thanks Sandra for the update. all expectations for July 9 have been sunk :(

[markwars]

Thanks for the info Sandra. As much as my wallet likes the break, my inner gamer will cry himself to sleep tonight. ;)

[cavie]

Thanks Sandra - I can now stop checking here every 20 minutes until early August. I knew you would come through for us with a good honest answer - I appreciate that.

[RichardD]

Suits me - I'd always planned on getting TV and the Castle together.

[jcb231]

I wonder if this means we won't get any info on the new wave until next month.....can't Hasbro throw us a bone so we know how many commons to order? Or at least to get us really buzzing about it?

[jcb231]

Has anyone emailed Sandra lately?

Guess I should have spoken up earlier, but I was enjoying all the speculation on whether Wave 5 was one of the already-released products.

Here's the situation so far:

Wave 5--Moved to early August
Castle--Still scheduled for early August
Thaelenk replenishment stock--early August (Good deals available at HouseMouse for multiple sets allocated from this August replenishment)

The shipment scheduled for July 9 will arrive on schedule BUT the ship is NOT carrying Wave 5 as we believed. It is carrying previously-released Waves for some of the "big boys".

If I had to make a positive statement about everything arriving in August, it would be that you can save a lot by ordering and shipping the new products together. But personally, I would have preferred some 'breathing room" between these releases.

Thanks Sandra!

Do you know if any more Zanafor's Discovery will be on the ship?

[HouseMouseGames]

Do you know if any more Zanafor's Discovery will be on the ship?

Not Zanafor. I think it's Jandar. But HOUSE MOUSE still has about 40 Zanafor's in stock.

[ReverendBayes]

Thanks for the information, Sandra!

[geddy lifeson]

Looks like a little breathing room on the wallet for a bit.

[reapersaurus]

So - HOW long has it been since new HS product was readily available at Walmart/Target?

Since Wave 4 came and went overnight, and hasn't been restocked on a large scale, that means it's been .... almost a YEAR since new HS product was available to anyone but a fanatic?

Man, it's too bad that speculating on how that fact impacts this game is not accepted well here. :headshake:

[GaryLASQ]

i'm with you on this, reaper. HAS is doing a horrible job marketing and distributing this game. if it manages to gain in popularity it's only because the game sells itself.

[markwars]

I will say that the stores I've seen in my area now have Wave 1 stuff. That's not a bad thing for new fans and potential new customers. If the wait has anything to do with Hasbro making sure older expansions were available again then I think that the wait is a good thing. Look at eBay prices for Wave 1 six months ago compared to now. It's a good thing.

[noodles]

Why don't stores sell all the waves at the same time? I remember as a kid going into Toys R Us and buying transformers or GI Joe or Star Wars or whatever and they'd have entire aisles dedicated to a particular game. In Walmart and Target Heroscape gets it's section for the Mater Set and whatever is the current wave they have stocked. Toys R Us is no better. Will I ever be able to walk into a toy section and see everything Heroscape has to offer all right next to each other?

[mrbistro]

Why don't stores sell all the waves at the same time? I remember as a kid going into Toys R Us and buying transformers or GI Joe or Star Wars or whatever and they'd have entire aisles dedicated to a particular game. In Walmart and Target Heroscape gets it's section for the Mater Set and whatever is the current wave they have stocked. Toys R Us is no better. Will I ever be able to walk into a toy section and see everything Heroscape has to offer all right next to each other?

Those were the days noodles, but alas those days are gone. Back then action figures were hot items, and therefore the shelves were filled with them. But now, kids just aren't buying that stuff as much. Especially board games.

[Snotwalker 8000]

As much as I hate to say it, i think that by releasing waves on a limited, staggered basis the way they do is probably sound marketing... It makes us JUMP when we see the set we've been looking for. How many of you, on a regular basis, make a quick "look see" in the HS section in Target/Walmart when you go there for other items?

This principle is soundly based on the tactic used by casinos to get people to keep plugging away the quarters. Let them "win" just enough to get them hooked on playing. Same with HS expansions... keep us looking, and probably buying more of the older stuff we already have, and provide us with "new" waves here and there to reinforce our "store lurking" behaviors.

Since we never quite know when that particular expanision set will become EXTREMELY hard to find again, we're more likely to grab it then and there than we would otherwise.

We're like those lousy rats that keep pressing the lever to get more food... behavior from infrequent reinforcement takes longer to extinguish than behavior formed from frequent reinforcement.

That being said, I WANT MORE WAVE 4 NOW!!! <pushing the lever> <pushing the lever> <pushing the lever>..... ;)

[countblah]

Good sound marketing would be releasing the waves in a staggered way WHERE PEOPLE COULD FIND THEM!!!

It does no good for me to want the stuff and then never be able to get it ever (see Volcarren Wasteland, Road to the Forgotten Forest, Thalanek Tundra and Wave 4).

That's like saying "people in Belarus will love McDonald's. Maybe we should build a franchise out there someday".

[mrbistro]

And how often have you walked into a casino, only for them to tell you, "No we don't have slot machines today."? When you're ready to spend your money, the casino is ready with all the slot machines you might want. And if they don't, you wouldn't go back to that casino would you? You'd find a different one to spend your money at.

[markwars]

One of the biggest obstacles to having all of the expansions available at every store all the time is shelf space. Walmart and Target particularly hate to give a lot of shelf space to any one product for an unlimited time unless that product has a very long very successful track record.

[noodles]

Yes but Toys R Us could certainly dedicate a section to Heroscape. They used to do that all the time....now that store is a sad excuse of what it used to be like.

[GaryLASQ]

yep. they could and they should.

[markwars]

TRU has no excuses. You are right about that. They won't be around for much longer though...

[jcb231]

Why don't stores sell all the waves at the same time? I remember as a kid going into Toys R Us and buying transformers or GI Joe or Star Wars or whatever and they'd have entire aisles dedicated to a particular game. In Walmart and Target Heroscape gets it's section for the Mater Set and whatever is the current wave they have stocked. Toys R Us is no better. Will I ever be able to walk into a toy section and see everything Heroscape has to offer all right next to each other?

Those were the days noodles, but alas those days are gone. Back then action figures were hot items, and therefore the shelves were filled with them. But now, kids just aren't buying that stuff as much. Especially board games.

Those, indeed, were the days.

I was talking to a young cousin of mine the other day about how action figures used to be sold "back in my day." He was upset because the character he wanted in some toyline was now really hard to find, and while offering to find it for him online I told him that back in the day they used to put out ALL the figures in the line ALL the time, for the life of the line. He was in awe, and I was vaguely depressed.

I realized what a great marketing method that was for the consumer...being able to walk into a store and get any figure you want. So sad that today's stores and manufacturers can't or won't do that.

I think that stores used to be able to order specific figures too...not just whatever the current wave is. At least it sure seemed that way. I can remember asking a store employee, like 20 years ago, if a particular MOTU figure was in the store. He said no, but ordered a few of them up for me and I bought one with my meager savings within the month.

I also remember that during the height of MOTU popularity, my parents would buy me everything that had been released for that year as a Birthday/Christmas present, giving me part for my Birthday and part for Christmas. Keep in mind that action figures were cheaper back then because they were produced in much larger amounts because they were THE popular item. But think about that....my parents were, in late summer/early fall, able to walk into ONE store and buy everything at the same time. If something wasn't on the shelf the store could, hold onto your britches, GET IT FOR YOU.

Of course, this was also before scalpers, who only further ruined the current pathetic toy distribution.

[markwars]

Those days were also before Walmarts.

Ah how I remember those magical times in the late 70's and early 80's. You could go into a Sears for crying out loud and find every Star Wars, GI Joe, and MotU toy made for that year. Those were indeed the best of times to be a 10 year-old boy.

[ninthdoc]

Those days were also before Walmarts.

Ah how I remember those magical times in the late 70's and early 80's. You could go into a Sears for crying out loud and find every Star Wars, GI Joe, and MotU toy made for that year. Those were indeed the best of times to be a 10 year-old boy.

Agreed, missed and deeply lamented... :cry:

[mrbistro]

Wow. Fighting... off ... nostalgia. Not only were the stores cooler, but remember how the toy catalogs would show complete lines, and usually have cool dioramas set up? I used to lie around on summer days drooling over those pictures. I got a catalog from Hasbro with my last HS order. My wife snatched it up, flipped through it for a minute or two, then said, "When did toy catalogs start to suck so much?"

[markwars]

Now I'm really welling up. :cry: The Sears Toy Wishbook that came out around Thanksgiving was something you saved for years (if your mom didn't find it and throw it out). Yes I can certainly remember wistful summer days looking longingly at fuzzy images of toys I never got in catalogs that were several years old. :lol:

Pictures like this....

http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/96/72/0f_12.JPG

or this....

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/garry52/Photos2056.jpg

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Markwars I've never seen those images. Thanks for sharing! I'm almost positive I've seen these catalogs on auction on eBay and fetching a decent price, right?

Btw, my mom had a 'motherly' magazine she used to subscribe to (family circle or something or other).

One issue had a sizeable article for mothers to create or help their children create these diorama-type Star Wars playset worlds. I savored that issue for a great long time.

The pictures had the dioramas and like 20 stormtrooper figures among others.

Anyone recall this issue?

[LilNewbie]

Those pages bring back some great memories! I remember that Christmas and I got almost all the figures released at that time (still have them in a Darth Vader carrying case.) :D That's a Christmas I will always remember. I picked the sets I wanted and mom went and bought them all....Mom's Rule!! :D

Dang, memory lane....sure is fun.

Newb.

[ninthdoc]

http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/96/72/0f_12.JPG

Ah, the fabled Blue Snaggletooth! OMG how I wanted one of those when I was a kid!

It's one of the few things in my nostalgia that I truly no longer want although I could easily get one off of eBay.

We all used to dream of finding one of them at random in the Sears in Town East Mall, even when RotJ was out, we still held out hope!

[markwars]

HEH I got those very images from eBay. I wish I had them in my hands, and I may just have to buy a few of those old catalogs. They don't go for more than about $15 shipped. ;)

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Mom's Rule!! :D

Dang, memory lane....sure is fun.

Newb.

Don't get me started. Mom would always buy me a single issue of the Avengers or some other comic with a cool cover that caught her eye.

And she even helped me send away for a Star Wars survival kit. You'd send in some proofs of purchase and get those face masks Solo and co. wore inside that asteroid behometh-worm, strap-on backpacks, assorted weapons.

Ah man....

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

And she even helped me send away for a Star Wars survival kit. You'd send in some proofs of purchase and get those face masks Solo and co. wore inside that asteroid behometh-worm, strap-on backpacks, assorted weapons.

Ah man....

Found it!

I remember it took what seemed like FOREVER to receive! :lol:
http://www.toysrgus.com/images-packa/esb_41back_bossk_proof_card_b.jpg

[markwars]

I definitely remember waiting on my Boba Fett promo figure...and my Emperor promo figure...and my Duke promo figure...and the various survival kits for not only Star Wars but GI Joe as well.

Here's the Boba Fett offer:

http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/a2/b9/f6_12.JPG

Those were the days!

The last such thing like that I can remember ever seeing was the Kellogg's Cereal and Lays Potato Chip offers in 1995 for the Han Solo in Stormtrooper disguise and the Spirit of Ben Kenobi figures. We will probably never have a reason to save our UPCs again. :cry:

And my mom rocked too. I'll never forget Christmas 1979 waking up to find the Death Star playset (the big one) next to the Christmas tree. I don't think I came out of my room until May 1980 when Empire came out. :P[/img]

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

...and the various survival kits for not only Star Wars but GI Joe as well.



Wow, sounds like the survival kits were pretty common back then? I know/recall only of the one I sent away for.

[markwars]

I am pretty sure that even the MotU line had a weapons pack of sorts you could send in UPCs for.

[toddrew]

I am pretty sure that even the MotU line had a weapons pack of sorts you could send in UPCs for.

I can vouch for that one - no pictures to provide though :)

[TAELORD FOCKER]

Markwars I've never seen those images. Thanks for sharing! I'm almost positive I've seen these catalogs on auction on eBay and fetching a decent price, right?

Btw, my mom had a 'motherly' magazine she used to subscribe to (family circle or something or other).

One issue had a sizeable article for mothers to create or help their children create these diorama-type Star Wars playset worlds. I savored that issue for a great long time.

The pictures had the dioramas and like 20 stormtrooper figures among others.

Anyone recall this issue?

is this what you're looking for?

http://www.toysrgus.com/images-speci/womansday/index.html

http://www.toysrgus.com/images-speci/womansday2/index.html

cheers![/url]

[ultradoug]

what the ? happen? eh? starwars?!

[markwars]

Those are awesome! Thanks for giving us links Taelord Focker. ;)

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

is this what you're looking for?

http://www.toysrgus.com/images-speci/womansday/index.html

http://www.toysrgus.com/images-speci/womansday2/index.html

cheers![/url]

OMIGOD! Yes! Those are them! Thank you Thank you Thank you!

Wow, now THAT brings back memories.
I distinctly remember the personnel launcher.

and this is humorous:
http://www.toysrgus.com/images-speci/womansday/conveyor.jpg
However, the Sandperson's desert counterpart, the Jawa, was featured quite prominently: No less than nine of the small brown figures were shown in the photos, usually in a rather humorous light, tumbling goofily or encroaching comically on the territory of the less mysterious-looking figures. But, to today’s collector, the Jawas are interesting for another reason. Namely, they are all of the rare vinyl-cape variety. As most collectors know, the vinyl- or plastic-cape Jawa was available only briefly at retail before being replaced by the much more common cloth-cape type. Since genuine examples of the earlier figure can sell for up to $300 on today's collectibles market, it can rightly be said that upwards of $2500 worth of Jawa figures were photographed by Woman's Day for this feature! (Of course, Woman's Day probably paid $3 each for them, but that's kind of what makes it so funny.)








and what did Woman's Day do with all this stuff once photographing was done? I bet some employees got to take it home to their kids or themselves?

[TAELORD FOCKER]

OMIGOD! Yes! Those are them! Thank you Thank you Thank you!

Wow, now THAT brings back memories.
I distinctly remember the personnel launcher.
no problem guys. i'm a bit of a fan myself. glad to be of assistance.

[ninthdoc]

Wow! I never saw that when I was a kid, thanks Taelord Focker!

We used to make all sorts of things from the movies that never got released or make our own stuff before it was released. I've forgotten most of it, but the one thing that never was released and should have been was a Cloud City set as big as the old Death Star set and complete w/the carbonite freezing chamber and the vent terrace where Luke is first told of his relationship to Darth Vader.

We must have made no less than 10 mockups of the carbonite freezing chamber, this was long before Kenner released the Slave One ship w/the flat and hollow bust of Han encased in carbonite. That version never did much for me and I was not a huge Boba Fett fan at the time. I think my little brother had it.

Our version usually consisted of a cardboard platform w/a large toothpaste box underneath and a rigged cardboard lever in the back. Poor Han was lowered into the toothpaste box and when he reached the bottom, the person using the cardboard lever, switched to a second cardboard lever on the otherside of the toothpast box and lifted it up. The first lever was not seen again, as it was now no longer touching anything on the rig-up. When Han appeared again by means of the second lever, he was encased in a clear Kenner Star Wars Figure blister (from one of the blister packs). The second lever was left at the top of the rigged platform, and Han was ready for transport.

I always liked our version of the carbonite frozen Han better than anything that Kenner put out. The above might sound complicated, but that's just me be overly descriptive so that the mechanic can be explained. Dang, that brings back memories. There was a guy in my neighborhood named John Paul Waylon. John Paul was the one who came up w/the initial design. The rest of us just kept improving on it and making it more elaborate.

Star Wars ruled! ...until Lucas lost his mind and kept making crappy movies... :cry:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Wow! I never saw that when I was a kid, thanks Taelord Focker!

We used to make all sorts of things from the movies that never got released... ...rest of us just kept improving on it and making it more elaborate.



Wow. the best I could do was burn things with matches. I took a Fischer-Price construstion guy and burned his head beyond recognition. Then made a paper helmet/mask that could slip off and on to reveal his ever so gruesome features. Poor construction guy.

Speaking of Adventure People. These guys were my first foray into action figures and they still saw plenty of play time even when Kenner released the Star Wars stuff.

Sturdy as heck toys too:
http://www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/yoda/378/custom/refs/adv_mary.jpg

The gentleman in the green shirt in the below blister pack was the burned-head victim
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/new-images/images-ok/300-399/FP352-EB86199197-B.JPG

and let's not forget the classic:
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/new-images/images-ok/300-399/FP309-1-EB142979814-C.jpg

[TAELORD FOCKER]

did they make a helicopter pilot with an orange flight suit? one hand was like pointing with one finger. i seem to remember my older brother "torturing" a figure like that with the same method. what is it about boys burning their toys?

[ninthdoc]

This is funny. H_E_H, is descructive w/construction figures... :lol:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

This is funny. H_E_H, is descructive w/construction figures... :lol:

Nice one. :lol:

[ninthdoc]

This is funny. H_E_H, is descructive w/construction figures... :lol:

Nice one. :lol:

"destructive", dang it!

[Teamski]

did they make a helicopter pilot with an orange flight suit? one hand was like pointing with one finger. i seem to remember my older brother "torturing" a figure like that with the same method. what is it about boys burning their toys?

Yeah they did. It came with an orange helicopter. As kids, we got a lot of these Fisher Price People sets one year. You had the News set (as above), the Safari set complete with a jeep, pop-up trailer, and animals; a search and rescue set, a motocross set and others that have passed into obscurity. They were a lot of fun at the time! Those pictures sure bring back a lot of memories. I didn't torture mine, however......

-Ski

[markwars]

I had TONS of Adventure People as a kid. And they would participate equally with Star Wars figures back in the 70's. My favorite set was the camping/outdoors set. They were sooooo cool. I've got to go to eBay and buy some of those.

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

did they make a helicopter pilot with an orange flight suit? one hand was like pointing with one finger. i seem to remember my older brother "torturing" a figure like that with the same method. what is it about boys burning their toys?

Yeah they did. It came with an orange helicopter. As kids, we got a lot of these Fisher Price People sets one year. You had the News set (as above), the Safari set complete with a jeep, pop-up trailer, and animals; a search and rescue set, a motocross set and others that have passed into obscurity. They were a lot of fun at the time! Those pictures sure bring back a lot of memories. I didn't torture mine, however......

-Ski

Ski and Ninth, I must point out that the green construction also had some torture before I got to him with a match - my puppy had severely chewed on him. I too wondered why I would destroy a fantastic toy like an Adventure Person. Thanks for another memory!


Here's the site I found them at:
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/L_FP_set/department-7/d-Adventure-Series.html

Ninth my favorite set was the Wilderness Patrol.

http://www.thisoldtoy.com/new-images/images-ok/300-399/fp307advnr.jpg
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/new-images/images-ok/300-399/FP307-EB90105980-B.JPG

A close second was the TV Action Team. I actually used the blue van and all the helicopter crew for my own version of Haunted Tank! It wasn't a tank so much as an enhanced van with missiles and such. In the comic, Jeb would ride poking out of the top of the tank turret. My 'Jeb' would sit in that cool revolving door and shout orders and shoot missiles.
I believe the Haunted Tank stories I was reading at the time had a black tank crew member. So the black helicopter pilot was perfect for this role!
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/new-images/images-ok/300-399/FP309X-1-EB93972782-B.JPG

Here was half of what I used for the van crew - the two guys on the left (and pilots from another set):
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/FPPeople/adventure-series.jpg

[markwars]

Me Wantee

[Ryougabot]

did they make a helicopter pilot with an orange flight suit? one hand was like pointing with one finger. i seem to remember my older brother "torturing" a figure like that with the same method. what is it about boys burning their toys?

I remember having a friend having bunch of those guys. We rigged one up with a throat soothing sprayer fixed to his back. If you put a lit match in his hand, you had instant flamethrower trooper. Many adventure people and a couple of Star Wars guys were incinerated that day.

The rest of the adventure people met their end at "The Mulcher". It was a rusted mulcher whose motor had long since burnt out. We removed the belts and operated the system by hand. Many adventure guys were executed for "crimes against humanity" of all things.

Little boys are quite aggressive and destructive. Is it just me or has society made little boys a lot more tame physically, and channeled it to other mediums (VG, TV, HS, CCG)?

[markwars]

I can assure you that some of my action figures died from being loved too much, but I never sent any through a mulcher. I loved those lil guys with all my heart and there was no way I would intentionally destroy them. I do remember kids that would do that kind of thing to their toys, but I always made sure that my toys and I avoided them.

Perhaps you got an extra shot of testosterone or something Ryougabot?

[LilNewbie]

I've only destroyed one of my toys growing up and it was a Hot Wheel that was beat up anyway. We just kept tossing it in the air and letting it hit the ground till all that was left was a bent, beat-up husk of a car. :(

Always felt bad about destroying toys...

Newb.

[ninthdoc]

Believe it or not, I had some of my Adventure People left from when I was a kid. My son wanted some motocycles for one of his action figures, so I bought a lot of odds and ends of Adventure People from someone on eBay for really cheap. My son has 3-5 of some of these different figures and motorcycles and such now.

Always felt bad about destroying toys...

Newb.

I'm the exact same way. I still feel badly for cutting up my Tundra Scout from the Wizards of the Dairy Queen collection, but he's destined for Heroscape!

[Hahnarama]

Believe it or not I have the Plane and Boat in my garage.

[Jeabird]

I would get battel beast from the boys in my neighborhood and have them fight GI Joe on my little ponies. I liked the beast because they were cute animals who could protect queens and princess like kights, but without the whole prince charming angle. I went and got them from storage a few days ago and am now comverting them to HS. They're a little big but they are going to make me so happy the next time i play. :D

[markwars]

Battle Beasts ruled my universe for awhile. I still have a near complete set (1 through 112). I never even knew about the very last ones that only came out in Japan only until years later. Ever since I found out I've wanted to get those last twenty or so. :P

[peterm]

I still have all my battle beasts. Not near a complete set, but a pretty good collection anyways. I never found the stupid horse-type guy that I "buried" an inch in the ground beneath a big pine tree, even though I tried to dig him up 5 minutes later.

[markwars]

I loved the Battle Beasts. Did you have the vehicles and forts too?

[Ryougabot]

I can assure you that some of my action figures died from being loved too much, but I never sent any through a mulcher. I loved those lil guys with all my heart and there was no way I would intentionally destroy them. I do remember kids that would do that kind of thing to their toys, but I always made sure that my toys and I avoided them.

Perhaps you got an extra shot of testosterone or something Ryougabot?

That phase lasted about 3 months. My friend and I realized that once we destroyed our toys, we could not get more. After that I took care of my toys and still have most of them to this day because of it. That brief flirtation with destruction may actually pay for my son's education.

I wonder what people will think of Heroscape in 2026. I wonder if anyone will remember that it was difficult to get these toys. I wonder of people will find their parent's collections in a basement. I wonder if the webpage will have updated ZD's bios.

BTW, Hasbro has been poor about distribution since at least 1984. Transformers did not just fall into stores at once. Some stores got them first, some were shot packed, some never even made it out to the shelves. We did not complain because we had no idea they were coming in the first place. The wish books were great, but the items in them had already been out for a year through the "traditional channels". Walmart could easily make a wish book by breaking all of the cartons in their warehouses and offering individual toys. The only problem with this that the popular toys would be sold, and the unpopular toys would have to be discounted very low to sell. If that happened, there would be many un-bought unique figures and commons would be very hard to come by because of the way they are packaged.

Nostalgia about the toys of the 80's never remembers the bad. Remember that in 2026.

[stay_golden_PONYBOY]

I wonder what people will think of Heroscape in 2026. I wonder if anyone will remember that it was difficult to get these toys.
2026...That's when the wave 5/castles hit WAL*MART shelves, right?

[DW13k]

It cant come with RV and TT cause on houseofmouse, they have a combo deal with RV and TT and it doesnt say wave 5 or anything

[skyknight]

Did the skies seem a little bluer when we were kids? Lord I miss all these things :(

[eaglekiller]

I finally saw something "new" at one of my Wal Marts ... the wave 1 redo. Boy my area is behind!

[peterm]

I loved the Battle Beasts. Did you have the vehicles and forts too?

No I didn't know there were vehicles and forts.
Mine were led by that cool white squid guy, and my brother's were led by the crappy shark with the pink armor and the cross-bow type weapon. I really liked the little penguin too, with the purple spear. I've got them all in the basement still.

[Revdyer]

Did the skies seem a little bluer when we were kids? Lord I miss all these things :(

You'll appreciate this one, sky. When I was a kid and we heard a helicopter or a jet overhead, we would drop whatever we were doing and run outside to look at it, just for the wonder of such amazing flying machines.

[LilNewbie]

Did the skies seem a little bluer when we were kids? Lord I miss all these things :(

You'll appreciate this one, sky. When I was a kid and we heard a helicopter or a jet overhead, we would drop whatever we were doing and run outside to look at it, just for the wonder of such amazing flying machines.

They had airplanes when you were a kid, Rev? Sorry, couldn't resist....I'll be waiting for the lightning bolt from the sky. :D

Newb.

[markwars]

He didn't mention that he and the other kids in the village would then throw spears at the "metal birds".

[Revdyer]

OH, thanks, people. We hand candles in those days, we did. And they were just about to invent the fork!

[skyknight]

Was the fork for throwing at airplanes :lol: Just jokin.

[Revdyer]

Hey, sky; you've got kids. You'll get old <grin>.

[jcb231]

Wow! I never saw that when I was a kid, thanks Taelord Focker!

We used to make all sorts of things from the movies that never got released or make our own stuff before it was released. I've forgotten most of it, but the one thing that never was released and should have been was a Cloud City set as big as the old Death Star set and complete w/the carbonite freezing chamber and the vent terrace where Luke is first told of his relationship to Darth Vader.

We must have made no less than 10 mockups of the carbonite freezing chamber, this was long before Kenner released the Slave One ship w/the flat and hollow bust of Han encased in carbonite. That version never did much for me and I was not a huge Boba Fett fan at the time. I think my little brother had it.

Our version usually consisted of a cardboard platform w/a large toothpaste box underneath and a rigged cardboard lever in the back. Poor Han was lowered into the toothpaste box and when he reached the bottom, the person using the cardboard lever, switched to a second cardboard lever on the otherside of the toothpast box and lifted it up. The first lever was not seen again, as it was now no longer touching anything on the rig-up. When Han appeared again by means of the second lever, he was encased in a clear Kenner Star Wars Figure blister (from one of the blister packs). The second lever was left at the top of the rigged platform, and Han was ready for transport.

I always liked our version of the carbonite frozen Han better than anything that Kenner put out. The above might sound complicated, but that's just me be overly descriptive so that the mechanic can be explained. Dang, that brings back memories. There was a guy in my neighborhood named John Paul Waylon. John Paul was the one who came up w/the initial design. The rest of us just kept improving on it and making it more elaborate.

Star Wars ruled! ...until Lucas lost his mind and kept making crappy movies... :cry:

I used to build a large Cloud City out of blocks. I remember one day my dad was playing with me, and he took Han and lowered him into a little pit he'd built, and then reached in and pulled out a brand new Kenner Han Solo in Carbonite figure for me. It blew my mind at the time.

[jcb231]

Did the skies seem a little bluer when we were kids? Lord I miss all these things :(


Actually, given the ever-increasing amount of pollution in the air and the fast rate of land development in most areas, I think the skies WERE bluer.

[jcb231]

did they make a helicopter pilot with an orange flight suit? one hand was like pointing with one finger. i seem to remember my older brother "torturing" a figure like that with the same method. what is it about boys burning their toys?

Yeah they did. It came with an orange helicopter. As kids, we got a lot of these Fisher Price People sets one year. You had the News set (as above), the Safari set complete with a jeep, pop-up trailer, and animals; a search and rescue set, a motocross set and others that have passed into obscurity. They were a lot of fun at the time! Those pictures sure bring back a lot of memories. I didn't torture mine, however......

-Ski

Ski and Ninth, I must point out that the green construction also had some torture before I got to him with a match - my puppy had severely chewed on him. I too wondered why I would destroy a fantastic toy like an Adventure Person. Thanks for another memory!


Here's the site I found them at:
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/L_FP_set/department-7/d-Adventure-Series.html

Ninth my favorite set was the Wilderness Patrol.

http://www.thisoldtoy.com/new-images/images-ok/300-399/fp307advnr.jpg
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/new-images/images-ok/300-399/FP307-EB90105980-B.JPG

A close second was the TV Action Team. I actually used the blue van and all the helicopter crew for my own version of Haunted Tank! It wasn't a tank so much as an enhanced van with missiles and such. In the comic, Jeb would ride poking out of the top of the tank turret. My 'Jeb' would sit in that cool revolving door and shout orders and shoot missiles.
I believe the Haunted Tank stories I was reading at the time had a black tank crew member. So the black helicopter pilot was perfect for this role!
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/new-images/images-ok/300-399/FP309X-1-EB93972782-B.JPG

Here was half of what I used for the van crew - the two guys on the left (and pilots from another set):
http://www.thisoldtoy.com/FPPeople/adventure-series.jpg

Wow....I had that plane and that green vehicle, but nothing lese from taht set. I think my mom bought them at a yard sale or they were a hand-me down from someone.

I also had that guy in the yellow helmet, orange checked shirt, on the right of the bottom pic. I found him on a playground one day, half buried in mud, and no one claimed it so I was allowed to keep it. I never knew what he went to.

[CupidsArt]

I used to build a large Cloud City out of blocks. I remember one day my dad was playing with me, and he took Han and lowered him into a little pit he'd built, and then reached in and pulled out a brand new Kenner Han Solo in Carbonite figure for me. It blew my mind at the time.

That is a truly brilliant move and I amire your Dad for doing something like that. It's a great way to give a gift and at the same time solidify a child's awe in their parent.

[jcb231]

Revdyer is so old..........

[Gambit]

Revdyer is so old..........

yeah but hes the cool kind of old

[Exrod]

Awesome. I so forgot all about my Adventure People! I have a 5 year old boy who is going to love getting some for his birthday. It's off to eBay I go...

[skyknight]

How many of you guys had these
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/Skyknightsalbum/misc/23_1.jpg
or maybe this set
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/Skyknightsalbum/misc/60_1.jpg

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Awesome. I so forgot all about my Adventure People! I have a 5 year old boy who is going to love getting some for his birthday. It's off to eBay I go...

Wow. Exrod? Long time now see. Welcome back and go get dem Adventure people!



How many of you guys had these
or maybe this set
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/Skyknightsalbum/misc/60_1.jpg

I never had the D&D figures, but my friend did. I didn't buy figures at that point, but I was impressed with those toys!

[ninthdoc]

Whoa! Exrod chimed in! Holy mother of :verymad: !

I didn't have the old D&D action figs either, but my friend did. Warduke was cool. They really screwed up b/c they were released at the same time as the cartoon, but other than Warduke and Tiamat, none of the releases were in the cartoon. They could have made a mint w/better tie-ins to the show. We all loved it. I even bought the DVD collection from Great Britain in Region 2 and PAL. Luckily my DVD player plays those. I love the show all over again, and so do my wife and kids!

Speaking of that, did anyone here know that the voice of Eric, the rich brat/Cavalier was supplied by none other than Donny Most (Ralph Mouth from Happy Days)!

:hijacked:

[Joah]

There was just recently a D&D marathon on JetX( I think that was it). My little girl flipping LOVED what she saw. That warmed my heart. I can't believe thats not on DVD over here. That is probably the show that got me into gaming in the first place. I know it is. That and Tom Hank's classic movie "Mazes and Monsters". :wink:

[django]

thats what im talking about! i still have the minotaur of the mound. my minotaur is loose and in very good condition hes up for trade if anyone wants him.
http://www.mechaworx.com/ImageGallery/add006.gif

[reapersaurus]

Speaking of that, did anyone here know that the voice of Eric, the rich brat/Cavalier was supplied by none other than Donny Most (Ralph Mouth from Happy Days)!

:hijacked:You mean - some people don't/didn't know that? :shock:

I really would like to have these on DVD as a GOOD copy - my 50 MB, 180 x 120 mpg files just aren't high quality enough. Even though I'm thinking of showing them to my son, bad quality and all - I KNOW he would LOVE them.

[ultradoug]

what the ? happen? eh? starwars?!

its gotten far wrose, i dont know what going on anymore!

[markwars]

LJN made some really cool toys back in the day. Not just D&D, but they also made the Dune toys. How many of you had those?

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I recall a toy I never had, but saw its commercials. He came out around the time of the Evil Knievel stuff.


J.J. Arms. You could switch his hands to differents tools (weapons as well?)

Anyone remember this obscure toy?

Years later in college a friend jokingly made a reference to J.J. Arms and I was amazed anyone but me remembered the toy. For a while there I thought I had dreamt the whole thing.

Here he is loose and currently on eBay. It's the only place I can seem to locate him on the internet. The picture links to the auction:

http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/70/09/50_1.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com/J-J-Arms-Action-Figure_W0QQitemZ6066095957QQihZ009QQcategoryZ348QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting)

[ninthdoc]

Speaking of that, did anyone here know that the voice of Eric, the rich brat/Cavalier was supplied by none other than Donny Most (Ralph Mouth from Happy Days)!

:hijacked:You mean - some people don't/didn't know that? :shock:

Some people don't:

1) Pay attention to things like that
2) Remember the show
3) Care enough to do either of the above

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

Speaking of that, did anyone here know that the voice of Eric, the rich brat/Cavalier was supplied by none other than Donny Most (Ralph Mouth from Happy Days)!

:hijacked:You mean - some people don't/didn't know that? :shock:



I didn't know that!




I was surprised to learn the late John Ritter was the voice of Clifford the Big Red Dog - when he was alive, of course.

[ninthdoc]

Speaking of that, did anyone here know that the voice of Eric, the rich brat/Cavalier was supplied by none other than Donny Most (Ralph Mouth from Happy Days)!

:hijacked:You mean - some people don't/didn't know that? :shock:



I didn't know that!




I was surprised to learn the late John Ritter was the voice of Clifford the Big Red Dog - when he was alive, of course.


I didn't know that!

[markwars]

I'm happy to not know much about Donny Most.

And do you guys remember when everyone was poo-pooing Donny Most, but reaper told us all how bad ass he was going to be? Boy were we idiots.

[jcb231]

Revdyer is so old..........

Oh c'mon people....how could anyone not take the bait for this setup?

Ahem...I'll say it again. :-P

Revdyer is so old......

[jcb231]

How many of you guys had these
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/Skyknightsalbum/misc/23_1.jpg
or maybe this set
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/Skyknightsalbum/misc/60_1.jpg


I had some of the bendy D&D monsters. My grandmother used to get them at the dollar store. Hell, even the dollar store carried full lines of toys back then.

[django]

Revdyer is so old..........

Oh c'mon people....how could anyone not take the bait for this setup?

Ahem...I'll say it again. :-P

Revdyer is so old......

how old is he!?

[jcb231]

I was surprised to learn the late John Ritter was the voice of Clifford the Big Red Dog - when he was alive, of course.

Actually, he was the voice after he was dead too. Amazing but true.

[ninthdoc]

I'm happy to not know much about Donny Most.

And do you guys remember when everyone was poo-pooing Donny Most, but reaper told us all how bad ass he was going to be? Boy were we idiots.

WTF?!? I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or just go:

:excited:

[Revdyer]

Revdyer is so old..........

Oh c'mon people....how could anyone not take the bait for this setup?

Ahem...I'll say it again. :-P

Revdyer is so old......

how old is he!?

Really old...like old enough to have been personal friends with Moses and stuff; old enough to know how to run a mimeograph machine; old enough to remember when there were no diet soft drinks. Now, man, that's old!

On the other hand, I'm young enough still to enjoy looking at Olivia Munn; but old enough not to take her too seriously.

[markwars]

ninthdoc...replace Donny Most with 4th Mass and it will all become apparent. :wink:

[ninthdoc]

I wrote that in jest. Didn't you see the smiley?

8) <--- Blind smiley = markwars

:rofl:

[Hex_Enduction_Hour]

I'm happy to not know much about Donny Most.

And do you guys remember when everyone was poo-pooing Donny Most, but reaper told us all how bad ass he was going to be? Boy were we idiots.

WTF?!? I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or just go:

:excited:

I laughed. I laughed like really hella hard!
:lol:

[skyknight]

Here is a question for you guys, in the mid to late 80's there was a group of figures that came out. I only remeber my friends little sister had them , but they were kinda cool I think. They were pretty much about the size of HS figs except they were I think like half animal and half man. I remember an elephant guy. I am just wondering if anyone knows the name of these figs so I can see if they are what I remember them being. Might work for Hs if they are not to cartoony. BTW they were all futuristic. There were also tons of them. Kinda like the muscle men in the early 80's but much better looking.

[Revdyer]

You don't mean Weebles, do you sky? <laughing and ducking, thinking about HeroScape Weebles>

[ninthdoc]

Here is a question for you guys, in the mid to late 80's there was a group of figures that came out. I only remeber my friends little sister had them , but they were kinda cool I think. They were pretty much about the size of HS figs except they were I think like half animal and half man. I remember an elephant guy. I am just wondering if anyone knows the name of these figs so I can see if they are what I remember them being. Might work for Hs if they are not to cartoony. BTW they were all futuristic. There were also tons of them. Kinda like the muscle men in the early 80's but much better looking.

sky, are these what you're talking about?

http://www.parrygamepreserve.com/images/battleBeasts/battleBeastsF_L.jpg

I vaguely recall them, but if you look at this link you might see the elephant guy.

http://www.mechaworx.com/detailsGallery2.asp?strToyLine_ID=138&Submit=Submit&strImageID=BBC005

I'd hotlink the pic, but the guy there has 'em protected. No-sharing jerk. However, the site is pretty cool. I googled a toy database and came up w/his site. http://www.mechaworx.com/searchGallery2.asp

[jcb231]

Sidetrack....don't ya hate it when folks won't let you right-click pics or link to them? Ugh that burns me up....As if I'm just going to go to your site everytime I want to see that pic. Just put a stamp on the bottom with your link and let us right-click the damn thing.

[jcb231]

Here is a question for you guys, in the mid to late 80's there was a group of figures that came out. I only remeber my friends little sister had them , but they were kinda cool I think. They were pretty much about the size of HS figs except they were I think like half animal and half man. I remember an elephant guy. I am just wondering if anyone knows the name of these figs so I can see if they are what I remember them being. Might work for Hs if they are not to cartoony. BTW they were all futuristic. There were also tons of them. Kinda like the muscle men in the early 80's but much better looking.

Battlebeasts. I've got a ton of them.

They are pretty cool, but probably wouldn't work out so well for HS.

There are tons of resources available on the 'net about them. Start with Wikipedia and go from there.

[skyknight]

Thats them, you are a friggin genius doc. I have not seen those in almost twenty years :P

[jcb231]

On the other hand, I'm young enough still to enjoy looking at Olivia Munn; but old enough not to take her too seriously.

I too enjoy looking at Olivia Munn, but I thought the Sarah Lane (I think that was it?) that was there before her was a better host....what happened to her?

G4 has got a lot of cute girls hosting shows....my personal Morgan Webb fascination is well documented I'm sure, Olivia Munn is just nice to look at but seems a bit vacant, ditto for the new little pixie-ish Brit that does the Feed segments. Although that new blonde girl that does the Fresh Ink segments seems pretty cool...hopefully she'll get lots of air time when they cover comic-con. Jeez...can't believe I'm going to watch tv coverage of comic-con. DORK. :-P

Now they just need better shows. Attack of the Show is alright, and X-play can be enjoyable as they are usually pretty accurate with their reviews, and the channels coverage of E3 is always cool, but that's about all they've got going for them. I used to like that one show where folks would call in....it had some crazy girl with blond spiked hair and another girl with longer hair that was really cute...that show used to tie into Icons sometimes, back before Icons moved away from just videogame stuff and became lame. I think the channel should just truly focus on being a video-game and fanboy network. I'm sure there's enough folks out there that could support that.

[django]

Olivia Munn....drool :hungry:

[ninthdoc]

you are a friggin genius doc.

Shhhhhh!!! Don't tell Infinitymax... 8)

[Su-Bak-Na]

I've got something to say:

:hijacked:

[Nwojedi]

i remember battle beasts. Fire kills Wood. Wood kills water. Water kills fire. It's a vicious cycle.

[ultradoug]

http://www.heroscapers.com/community/images/avatars/206684029244b875ed0ff85.gif

OH MY WORD RUN!

[skyknight]

You guys are right about those battle beast not really working but they are still kinda cool. I also managed to find a whole bunch of M.U.S.C.L.E men on ebay as well. When I was around ten years old I stole these from a department store because my Dad would not buy them for me. I was caught on camera, Scared crapless by a security guard, and then had to ride home with my father. I have never stolen something since that day, one of the most embarrassing and scary days of my life :?

[jcb231]

i remember battle beasts. Fire kills Wood. Wood kills water. Water kills fire. It's a vicious cycle.

There was a special Suburst that killed everything. It was advertised here but actually only available in Japan.

In Japan, Battlebeasts were actually tied into the Transformers line somehow.

[ninthdoc]

i remember battle beasts. Fire kills Wood. Wood kills water. Water kills fire. It's a vicious cycle.

There was a special Suburst that killed everything. It was advertised here but actually only available in Japan.

In Japan, Battlebeasts were actually tied into the Transformers line somehow.

No, dude, you're thinking of the Transformers Beast Wars line.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005LW1A.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[justjohn]

Holy Frijoles! Battle Beasts were my absolute favorite action figures growing up! I remember seeing the commercial, I remember the first figures I had: (Giraffe and Tortoise) and I remember my favorite 2 figures: The orange/yellow iguana and the white/pink shark/fish guy.

I had the shark, the deer, and I think it was a big wood beetle battle-car things. And there was the ram! OH MAN! I loved battlebeasts. Had a friend who had 2 of those clear chested sunburst ones, one was a fox with white armor (Sorry, this was almost 20 years ago) BUT OH MAN!

[Ryougabot]

Battle beasts was actually part of the Transformers universe in Japan. The Battle beasts were in a episode of Headmasters. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Beasts#History

[jcb231]

i remember battle beasts. Fire kills Wood. Wood kills water. Water kills fire. It's a vicious cycle.

There was a special Suburst that killed everything. It was advertised here but actually only available in Japan.

In Japan, Battlebeasts were actually tied into the Transformers line somehow.

No, dude, you're thinking of the Transformers Beast Wars line.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005LW1A.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

No dude, I'm not.

Behold the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Beasts#History

[jcb231]

Holy Frijoles! Battle Beasts were my absolute favorite action figures growing up! I remember seeing the commercial, I remember the first figures I had: (Giraffe and Tortoise) and I remember my favorite 2 figures: The orange/yellow iguana and the white/pink shark/fish guy.

I had the shark, the deer, and I think it was a big wood beetle battle-car things. And there was the ram! OH MAN! I loved battlebeasts. Had a friend who had 2 of those clear chested sunburst ones, one was a fox with white armor (Sorry, this was almost 20 years ago) BUT OH MAN!

The tortoise and giraffe were my first ones too. Shortly after that I got the frog and elephant, and it spiraled from there.

[CupidsArt]

Behold the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Beasts#History

The Shark, Giraffe, Rabbit and Deer were all my favorites and maybe the Pig, Skunk and Turtle, :)


I still have a few of these, they don't rub the element anymore though, :(

[ninthdoc]

JCB, You're obviously correct, but I'll be petty and state that while you were correct, Ryougabot actually beat you to the punch on both the correction to me and the link:

Battle beasts was actually part of the Transformers universe in Japan. The Battle beasts were in a episode of Headmasters. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Beasts#History

Heh!

:explode:

Okay, pettiness ends, for now... :twisted:

[markwars]

It's funny that about five pages back we had a discussion about Battle Beasts. Then skynight brings them back up, dubs ninthdoc a genius, and everyone moves on from there. :lol:

[jcb231]

Yeah, well I'll be extra petty and say nyah nyah nyah I was right and ninthdoc was wrong!

:-P


:-)

[markwars]

I'll be Tom Petty.

ninthdoc can be Richard Petty.

And UD can be a plate of petit fors.

[Revdyer]

Can I be Petty Cash?

[ninthdoc]

Yeah, well I'll be extra petty and say nyah nyah nyah I was right and ninthdoc was wrong!

:-P


:-)

But, I'm still a genius...

Can I be Petty Cash?

Sure, now tell your twin brothers, Petty Rivalry and Petty Larceny to stop fighting and share.

BTW, Imax gets to Revdyer's Great Great Grandfather, Johnny Cash (no relation).

[markwars]

And who is the Chief Petty Officer?

[ninthdoc]

And who is the Chief Petty Officer?

You are now.

[markwars]

So I'm the Chief Tom Petty Officer?

Then you're the Petty Genius.

[ultradoug]

Glad I'm not in the Navy anymore, with you monkeys in the boat.

[jcb231]

Ultradoug was in the navy?

[ninthdoc]

Ultradoug was in the navy?

Yes, and that is also his favorite song.

[skyknight]

Remeber the pigs on the Muppets doin that song, that was great :P

[ninthdoc]

Remeber the pigs on the Muppets doin that song, that was great :P

Pigs... In... Space!!!!!!!!

[jcb231]

I have that toy, from the awesome Palisades Muppet line....one of the coolest things on my eccentric crazy-man bookshelves.