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Zorgophlats
July 24th, 2007, 11:52 AM
Thormun: With the third pick in the Superhero Draft, General Jandar selects Captain America.

Next up is Einar! Don’t forget to post your thoughts on Utgars’ first pick.

Confused :? Visit Unofficial Marvel Valkyrie Draft (http://heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=300973#326788) to see what this is all about!

Einar is known for his Historical themed army.
His favorite color is Violet/Gold depending on his mood.
His most common race is: Human.
His most common class is: Samuri (ya know… I don’t even want to bother looking it up).
His most common personality is: Iron Man (does anybody actually read this part?).

Official commentary provided by “ZBeeblebrox.” What rolls downstairs, alone or in pairs, rolls over your neighbors dog. What’s great for a snack, it fits on your back, it’s ZBeeblebrox.

Sgt. Drake (SG): See like I said, this was a no brainer, so on to pick four. Now this is when the Superhero draft will start to get interesting. There are fewer clear cut choices now. So what do you think partner?
Agent Carr (AC): Glad you asked, Sarge, I think it should be Thanos. He is still one of the major powerhouses. But do I think that Ethno-centric Einar will choose him? No, my bet is on Red Skull.
SG: Whoowee! Boy, you really have a thorn in your backside when it comes to General Einar. So tell me how you really feel.
AC: Oh I nothing against Einar, for he favors our species, but sometimes he limits himself out in the battlefield. Do you think a dragon would hurt? Well if he doesn’t have a dragon in his Army, he should at least take someone who is as powerful as a dragon.
SG: You’re right there Carr, Nilfheim, has been a major asset to Jandar’s forces since he arrived.
AC: So there are many other candidates. There’s Red Skull, Dr. Doom, Abomination, Spiderman, and Ironman. I do not consider venom to be a frontrunner with this pick.
SG: Well, red Skull is a good for nothing Nazi and should be picked by Utgar, just so I can kick hi sorry butt over and over again.
AC: Tell us how you really feel, there Sarge. *chuckle* But the Red Skull’s leadership qualities would be a good fir for the Einar forces.
SG: Yeh, but this red Skull is just a clone, so technically he’s not human.
AC: Close enough for hand grenades; come on that’s like saying the Deathstalkers are technically wolves. It makes no difference. What is all important is the abilities of Red Skull and how they will correlate with the rest of the Army.
SG: OK, OK, he may be a good fit in the Einar camp, but that does not mean I’m going to like it. So what about the others, say Spidy for example?
AC: Spiderman, is an interesting choice, but his stats are not overwhelming. He is more of a second rounder, probably to Jandar.
SG: Spidy with Jandar, good choice. Well, I think Dr, Doom works here with Einar, and he can make some trouble on the battlefield. Plus you thought he was worthy of the third pick, so what about Doom?
AC: Oh, Dr. Doom would be interesting here, but from a synergy standpoint, I think the Skull works better.
SG: Well I’m not going to get you to budge from that stance, so I will put in my two cents and say that Einar would be daft if he passes up Thanos, because that Evil Bastage Utgar will not pass him up, and that would be bad for the other generals.

Comments about Einars’ first pick include:

I'd lean on Thanos in Einar. Both for the purple/gold color and for the personality. I could see Iron Man going Einar, Thanos (They don't feel bad about Jandar passing on him!), or Red Skull (Master Manipulator compliments their disciplined ranks so well) Einar - Abomination - Iron man Einar: Iron Man - human and has a code he follows Einar - Spiderman & Thanos (Spiderman = Ninjas, Thanos wears a samurai outfit) EINAR - Venom, Abomination
Since the web-slingers are the only Marvel heroes that boast a D20 protective ability, I think that should be the key factor in assigning them. With Counter Strike, Disappear, and One Shield Defense, Einar has some cool abilities that trigger when attacked. I'd say he should continue the theme with a spider-sensitive figure-- probably Venom because of his mixture of powerful attacks and D20 defense. And with no dragon and a weak flagbearer, Einar definitely needs one of the big build-around killers. Abomination is possibly a little more effective for his points than Thanos and Hulk. Here's how I see the first round playing out if Silver Surfer goes Vydar.
Jandar - Captain America
Einar - Thanos

Here's how I see the first round playing out if Iron Man goes Vydar.
Jandar - Silver Surfer
Einar - Thanos

Here's how I see the first round playing out if Dr. Doom goes Vydar
Jandar - Silver Surfer
Einar - ThanosGee... I wonder what IAmBatman thinks about Einar this round? Thanos has a Greek God vibe going for him, not to mention a bit of the Einar Color Scheme, gold/orange.

Vote now for the one Marvel figure that best fits Einars’ army.
Vote carfully, new points will effect round 2, i.e. the second five.
You have 1 day.

johnny139
July 24th, 2007, 11:56 AM
I say Thanos. He's big and strong - something Einar needs. He's similar to a Greek God, which fits with his Roman/Greek branch. And he wears some gold, just like many of Einar's other troops.

Zorgophlats
July 24th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Dude, I hadn't even finished updating the original thread before you voted.

Drumline3469
July 24th, 2007, 12:15 PM
I voted Red Skull. He faught in WWII and seems the most historical out of anyone. And he's just a human with mad skills. NOw that i think about it it was a terrible vote, but I'll go with it.

johnny139
July 24th, 2007, 12:15 PM
I'm fast with the fingers. :D

And Iron Man is not a personality.

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 12:29 PM
I think this one's gonna be close! :D

hi1hi1hi1hi1
July 24th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Einar is known for his Historical themed army.
His favorite color is Violet/Gold depending on his mood.
His most common race is: Human.
His most common class is: Samuri (ya know… I don’t even want to bother looking it up).
His most common personality is: Iron Man (does anybody actually read this part?). Apparently I do. :wink:

Not sure who to vote for. I'll have to check the cards real quick.

Tiberius
July 24th, 2007, 01:23 PM
I am going with a monarch type figure, Dr. Doom.

BRUNAK
July 24th, 2007, 01:44 PM
I voted Spider Man but then I saw Thanos soo I thought "Sure"
He can go to my favorite army :D

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 02:08 PM
Wow, I'm surprised Red Skull is currently outpacing Iron Man.

ZBeeblebrox
July 24th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Einar needs a heavy hitter and Thanos fits the bill.

ugly1hornedmule
July 24th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Red Skull I think fits the bill perfectly, my second pick would be Iron Man.

I am just not seeing Thanos as Einar.

NecroBlade
July 24th, 2007, 05:19 PM
Red Skull I think fits the bill perfectly, my second pick would be Iron Man.

I am just not seeing Thanos as Einar.Pretty much where I sit. I don't see how Thanos = Einar. Iron Man and Red Skull both fit perfectly, though. May many more votes come through and knock one of those two in round one.

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 05:26 PM
I'm not getting the Red Skull logic - imo his color scheme is too red and his general vibe just fits Utgar better. I guess he's a human and from what you could consider a "disciplined" army (Nazis) but he's never struck me as really having a "disciplined" persona himself.

NecroBlade
July 24th, 2007, 05:29 PM
He's historical (kinda).

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 05:30 PM
Well, yeah, but more hysterical than anything. :P

GoBigorGoHome
July 24th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Iron Man should be the pick here. Thanos and Red Skull are both clearly the most evil figures and should both go to Utgar

johnny139
July 24th, 2007, 05:34 PM
Not really, as this Red Skull is actually the brain of the original Red Skull (I think) placed in the body of a Captain America clone. So not really historical. :D

And Thanos does go against he All Human theme... but he's both a heavy hitter, like Einar needs, and is similar to a Greek God of sorts. So he doesn't fit what Einar has perfectly, but fills in what Einar needs.

As I said, Red Skull and Venom are Utgar's men. I have no doubt in my mind that Venom, a being born out of two creature's unbridled HATRED and RAGE. He's a monster, ferocious and terrible. The only Spidey Villain eviler than him is Carnage. Red Skull is a Nazi bastich. Utgar, no question.

NecroBlade
July 24th, 2007, 05:34 PM
Iron Man should be the pick here. Thanos and Red Skull are both clearly the most evil figures and should both go to UtgarThere are plenty of options for Utgar. Iron Man fits Einar very nicely though, I'm so confused as to why no one's voting for him. However, I'm campaigning for Red Skull, since he's closest to beating Thanos.

Hawk14
July 24th, 2007, 05:35 PM
I voted Red Skull. He faught in WWII and seems the most historical out of anyone. And he's just a human with mad skills. NOw that i think about it it was a terrible vote, but I'll go with it.sure...WorldWarII and Samurais...
yah they go perfectly together. :P

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 05:36 PM
Iron Man is my second rounder for Einar. I gambling that he'll be there.

NecroBlade
July 24th, 2007, 05:37 PM
I voted Red Skull. He faught in WWII and seems the most historical out of anyone. And he's just a human with mad skills. NOw that i think about it it was a terrible vote, but I'll go with it.sure...WorldWarII and Samurais...
yah they go perfectly together. :PJust as well as robots and dragons, rats and aliens...what's your point? :roll:

hi1hi1hi1hi1
July 24th, 2007, 05:38 PM
Personally I see Red Skull and Thaos as the worst (evilest) of the bunch, therefore going to Utgar. For my picks Jandar is going with Spidy, Ullar Venom, Vydar gets Doom, hmm that leaves Abomination and Iron Man. Ok maybe the other picks aren't worked out all the way but I'm going Iron Man here.

johnny139
July 24th, 2007, 05:40 PM
One more thing to ponder about Thanos. He kills to appease the Goddess Death. The Romans sacrificed people and animals to appease the Gods. He'd fit in, no?

Hawk14
July 24th, 2007, 05:43 PM
I voted Red Skull. He faught in WWII and seems the most historical out of anyone. And he's just a human with mad skills. NOw that i think about it it was a terrible vote, but I'll go with it.sure...WorldWarII and Samurais...
yah they go perfectly together. :PJust as well as robots and dragons, rats and aliens...
what I meant was that Einars troops mostly consist of disciplined-type characters like samurai, in which red skull wouldnt fit in as well.
see what I mean?

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 05:50 PM
There really aren't any disciplined guys at all in the Marvel set, though. I figure Red Skull, Thanos, and Iron Man all have their cases, so why not give Einar the toughest one?

johnny139
July 24th, 2007, 05:52 PM
I have another point about Iron Man (boy, I have a lot of points...). Recently, in Civil War, he sided with Regestration for the good of America as a whole. He's now become a civil servant, in short. What are most of Einar's troops? Romans, Greeks, Samurai. People who fought to defend their leaders, and their countries, above all else.

Iron Man for Einar in Round 2, I say.

NecroBlade
July 24th, 2007, 06:08 PM
Iron Man for Einar in Round 2, I say.Should've been in round one, but doesn't look like that's going to happen. Oh well, he better get it in round 2.

hi1hi1hi1hi1
July 24th, 2007, 06:13 PM
Iron Man for Einar in Round 2, I say.Should've been in round one, but doesn't look like that's going to happen. Oh well, he better get it in round 2.Agree. But Thanos is at 11 now.

I don't wee how anyone could vote Red Skull over Iron Man for Einar.

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 06:14 PM
I agree that of all of these, Iron Man is probably the best fit, but I feel Thanos is the second best fit, and I was looking big picture. Thanos wouldn't have made it past Utgar's first pick. Iron Man will.

GoBigorGoHome
July 24th, 2007, 06:17 PM
Unless we all vote Iron Man somewhere else. :) Won't be any crazier than giving Einar the evilest figure in the set

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 06:20 PM
Einar has the second evilest army, though, really. They've got the strongest alliance with Utgar of anyone in the game. And there's plenty of evil to be had - Doom, Red Skull, Venom, and Abomination all come to mind. None of those are exactly nice guys, but Utgar only gets two picks, so some evil guys were going elsewhere regardless.

hi1hi1hi1hi1
July 24th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Thanos goes to Einar, this how the rest will probably work out.

Utgar - Red Skull
Jandar - Spiderman
Vydar - Doom
Einar - Iron Man
Ullar - Venom (snake-like)
Utgar - Only Abomination is left

I could see Ullar and Utgar's picks switching though I don't think I like Hulk and Abomination on the same team.

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 06:23 PM
That works for me, Hi1. Does that take reseeding into account?

hi1hi1hi1hi1
July 24th, 2007, 06:27 PM
Not at all, I didn't feel like taking up the point totals, but I could do that if I wasn't playtesting Deathlok and building a bell tower (terrain contest 5)at the same time. Oh I forgot I need to finish the Q9 battles. :D Wayy too much to do.

IAmBatman
July 24th, 2007, 06:59 PM
mwahahaha! dance for me little green smiley!

Or not, you know, w/e.

OK, that's enough for me for a bit - going out tonight! :D

hi1hi1hi1hi1
July 24th, 2007, 07:04 PM
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Yess master, I will dance.
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

rdhight
July 25th, 2007, 01:11 AM
Iron Man for Einar in Round 2, I say.Should've been in round one, but doesn't look like that's going to happen. Oh well, he better get it in round 2.Agree. But Thanos is at 11 now.

I suspect Jandar is going to grab Iron Man with his 2 pick, if he's still around by that time.

NecroBlade
July 25th, 2007, 01:23 AM
Iron Man for Einar in Round 2, I say.Should've been in round one, but doesn't look like that's going to happen. Oh well, he better get it in round 2.Agree. But Thanos is at 11 now.

I suspect Jandar is going to grab Iron Man with his 2 pick, if he's still around by that time.I really think (and hope) Spidey will blow Iron Man away there.

Zorgophlats
July 25th, 2007, 10:58 AM
Draft will resume much later tonight. Not enough time today to set Utgar up. Also, there will be a one day intermission thread to catch everybody up.

IAmBatman
July 25th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Spidey's a lock for Jandar, IMO. Where else would Spidey go? Ullar? :screwy:

hi1hi1hi1hi1
July 25th, 2007, 12:22 PM
Ok for you Batman, I did it with receedings:

Utgar - Red Skull

Jandar (1485) -Spiderman
Vydar (1565) - Doom
Ullar (1535) - Venom (Abomination)
Einar (1800) - Iron Man
Utgar (2740) - Abomination (Venom)

ZBeeblebrox
July 25th, 2007, 12:31 PM
I agree that of all of these, Iron Man is probably the best fit, but I feel Thanos is the second best fit, and I was looking big picture. Thanos wouldn't have made it past Utgar's first pick. Iron Man will.

IAMBatman agrees with Sgt. Drake :wink: , 'cause who wants Utgar to have someone rejected by death.

rdhight
July 25th, 2007, 04:28 PM
Spidey's a lock for Jandar, IMO. Where else would Spidey go? Ullar? :screwy:

Vydar, of course!

The way I look at it, Jandar wants Iron Man because Cap can walk 5/6, then shoot with range 5. He'll want something with a bigger threat range. Spider-Man can either walk 6 or swing 4, then shoot with range 4. Iron Man can fly 6, then shoot wih range 6.

Since Spidey's got a special attack, d20 defense, and swing line, he won't get maximum benefit from Raelin or any of the viking spirits. With flying and two normal attacks, Tony can extract maximum benefit from Finn and Eldgrim's spirits, and with 4 life, he'll be glad to hang out with Cap and Raelin. Let Spider-Man go flit out of the line of fire along with the Krav and Nakitas.

Hawk14
July 25th, 2007, 07:16 PM
how 'bout:

doom = Ullar

venom = Vydar

spidey = Jandar

ironman = Einar

abomination = Utgar

red skull = Utgar

???

Drumline3469
July 25th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Ironman is a fracking robot. Does that not scream vydar to anyone? Why the heck would Spidey go to Vydar over Ironman?! you all are wack. And not just the regular kinds you're Wiggidy-Wack!

johnny139
July 25th, 2007, 07:40 PM
Ironman is a fracking robot. Does that not scream vydar to anyone? Why the heck would Spidey go to Vydar over Ironman?! you all are wack. And not just the regular kinds you're Wiggidy-Wack!

He's a man in an iron suit. And Abomination is a mad scientist. Both fit, but neither will go.

GoBigorGoHome
July 25th, 2007, 08:17 PM
Vydar is more suited to tricky characters/people with good defensive abilities. Spider-Man suits Vydar in terms of his defensive powers. Although I think Doom most fits Vydar of those remaining

IAmBatman
July 25th, 2007, 08:51 PM
Venom is also a tricky guy and he fits Vydar's color scheme better.

NecroBlade
July 25th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Venom is also a tricky guy and he fits Vydar's color scheme better.He fits Vydar's color scheme, but his hatred is very Utgar...but then he's the cheapest hero so far, and Utgar already has all cheapest army over all (per figure), but Vydar's behind in points...could go either way. :P

IAmBatman
July 25th, 2007, 09:43 PM
We'll just have to see what happens after Utgar picks either Red Skull or Abomination this round. :P
Or Venom ...
Or Dr. Doom ...